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Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:55 am

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In post 1748, Chara wrote:do you scumread him or is this a paranoia read?
I’m paranoid he’s secretly typing:
PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:post 28

got norwee pocketed hard and he’s floundering in the wrong direction
PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Post 16

amy fell for it. what an easy game!
But no, i do think he’s likely just town here.
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Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:02 am

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Infinity still feels like an alien that’s uncomfortable wearing their human skin suit.
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Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:08 am

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Infinity: "Ircher elim not good!"

"Ah! Infinity changed their mind. Ircher elim...maybe...good?? Ircher isn’t sure why they suddenly changed their mind, but they did apparently. Now to explain why they are townie again."
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Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:41 am

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So.. No reaction from Infinity?
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Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:41 am

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Hi again I don't know how to react
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Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:50 am

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You can comment on people voting you.
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Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:56 am

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I don't really have an argument for why I'm not scum, I expressed my perspective, I'm town, I can't get everyone to believe me
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Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:59 am

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Ok, but you can try to express your thoughts about the players who are suspicious of you (Ydrasse, for example) and whether that makes them town or scum.
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Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:03 am

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Norwee and ydrasse are towny regardless. I think ydrasse is putting in the effort to try to genuinely read me and being more perceptive about my play than I'd expect from scum!her. For norwee it has nothing to do with the read on me it's just a strong vibe throughout his play

Datisi I don't know. I don't really know how to read him.
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Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:07 am

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eh? you got to a correct read of me in the last two games we played together? what's with the "i don't know how to read him" now?
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Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:08 am

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In post 1743, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I keep having visions of Pooky laughing at me in a scum PT somewhere, and Infinity is there too. The whole gang! All laughing and pointing at me.
I don't need a scum PT to laugh at you

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Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:13 am

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In post 1759, Tanner wrote:eh? you got to a correct read of me in the last two games we played together? what's with the "i don't know how to read him" now?
You aren't playing similar to the mini normal imo

I townread you for the majority of jk9++
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Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:15 am

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In post 1758, Infinity 324 wrote:Norwee and ydrasse are towny regardless. I think ydrasse is putting in the effort to try to genuinely read me and being more perceptive about my play than I'd expect from scum!her. For norwee it has nothing to do with the read on me it's just a strong vibe throughout his play

Datisi I don't know. I don't really know how to read him.
Can you quote a post from Norwegian and Ydrasse's iso post that reflects you as towny?
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Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:17 am

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Ops, I accidentally duplicated the word ''post''.

Correction: Can you quote a post from Norwegian and Ydrasse's iso that reflects you as towny?
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Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:22 am

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In post 1380, Tanner wrote:
In post 1357, Infinity 324 wrote:We should lim nakata
In post 1359, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't know what ircher's doing but I don't see a scum motivation
by the way, this is something i've seen scum do before. when there's a townie being run up, they don't defend them, but once it seems like their wagon is basically a foregone conclusion, they appear out of the void to push someone else. so that when the wagoned townie flips, they get ~towncred~ for defending them and more easily push who they tried to push yesterday.

if we yeet ircher and he flips green, i am heavily looking at these posts.
By extension, take a look at this post ^

What is your impression of it in ai terms? towny? scummy? nai? (if so, why)
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Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:45 am

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In post 1761, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1759, Tanner wrote:eh? you got to a correct read of me in the last two games we played together? what's with the "i don't know how to read him" now?
You aren't playing similar to the mini normal imo

I townread you for the majority of jk9++
well yeah, that's why i said "the last two games we played together".

like, in the c9++, you seemed to actually be putting thought into my alignment, as opposed to a flat "idk how to read datisi lol" here? even though you were a literal ic (and therefore didn't even have to try to look townie), i still had an idea that there was something happening backstage there.
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Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:48 am

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probably staying on Ircher but i'd sooner slide off to Infinity than Nakata. probably
In post 1744, Ydrasse wrote:VOTE: infinity

i have absolutely no energy today and sorry for not writing the case i was going to but at this point i’m not as sure i want to pursue it idk if it’s cold feet but rereading satoru’s iso i’m less solid, and as for the ircher wagon that wall post ah... ircher’s clearly been paying attention and thinking abo this game even if he didn’t externalize it and i think that the things he has to say are pretty decent? it’s annoying because he’s not /doing/ anything with these reads but it fits into what he was going for this game according to what he says. maybe i’m a dumbass going oooo big word pile good word you give good word to us and it’s winning over but there’s a level of nuance there that i don’t know if scum!ircher could conjure having been so aloof otherwise which i feel still reflects a solving mindset
I dont think it's a bad wall per se but giving reads of multiple players when prompted to do so is something I think Ircher is definitely capable of as scum. I'm not sure if there's enough nuance, it mostly came off like comments on particular posts within various players ISOs, but as for conclusions there aren't terribly many. Leantown Nakata, Leanscum Robert, Null Chara.

I also think scum!Ircher could manage this post in order to save himself from an impending elim, especially when there are other options still being entertained by influential players like Tanner/clidd.

I think it's Irchers most solid content by far though of course. Not doing anything with the reads is right, though. You can read people however you like it doesn't exactly matter when any read works cause you both don't have influence nor actually try to persuade people.
In post 1751, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Infinity still feels like an alien that’s uncomfortable wearing their human skin suit.
Yeah, it's a new look for sure. More investigation required
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Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:56 am

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Actually im starting to work up a spontaneous gut townread of Infinity (>﹏<)

It's basically tone and certain things she's said, impossible to explain, don't mind me

We'll see if it lasts.. til then, Ircher train for me
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Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:11 pm

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might as well get something in:

yin
, is there a criminal between Tanner, Ydrasse, and Ircher?
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Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:30 pm

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In post 1747, Chara wrote:
In post 1744, Ydrasse wrote:VOTE: infinity

i have absolutely no energy today and sorry for not writing the case i was going to but at this point i’m not as sure i want to pursue it idk if it’s cold feet but rereading satoru’s iso i’m less solid, and as for the ircher wagon that wall post ah... ircher’s clearly been paying attention and thinking abo this game even if he didn’t externalize it and i think that the things he has to say are pretty decent? it’s annoying because he’s not /doing/ anything with these reads but it fits into what he was going for this game according to what he says. maybe i’m a dumbass going oooo big word pile good word you give good word to us and it’s winning over but there’s a level of nuance there that i don’t know if scum!ircher could conjure having been so aloof otherwise which i feel still reflects a solving mindset
i also have no energy but i'm jealous because you have still made a good point here abt that one post having some good stuff in it and reflecting he has been doing his own solving even if he's being weird about it.

curious what makes you feel less solid on Nakata scum, though?
i've been thinking about this and i didn't find myself agreeing with this post at the time, but yeah, i don't think scum Ircher would have any problem coming up with these reads and i really don't think one single good post, especially when prompted heavily by clidd, is really worth the townread at all.

i also don't understand where Tweetie's townread on Nakata is coming from, though. or Infinity really. Infinity seems like she has some meta with others here so i'm kind of willing to let that one be at least for today, multiple people have said she's felt off and i agree.
but Nakata has just not been towny and the more i think about it the more constructed all of his stances feel. i don't think it should be this hard to write something even resembling a case on your biggest scumread.
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Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:31 pm

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Inf: have you talked about the reason you're having trouble this game? i'm getting the impression you aren't normally.
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Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:36 pm

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going to wait for a VC but i'll move to Ircher afterwards. i'll say again i really think Nakata is just scum here, my most confident scumread atm. preference is something like Nakata >> Ircher > Infinity
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Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:39 pm

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@Yin:
are you Yang?
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Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:39 pm

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Infinity's just generally been lower energy for a while now :/

I hope she feels better soon!
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Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:45 pm

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In post 1769, Chara wrote:i also don't understand where Tweetie's townread on Nakata is coming from, though. or Infinity really. Infinity seems like she has some meta with others here so i'm kind of willing to let that one be at least for today, multiple people have said she's felt off and i agree.
but Nakata has just not been towny and the more i think about it the more constructed all of his stances feel. i don't think it should be this hard to write something even resembling a case on your biggest scumread.
townread on Nakata? What?

I can more easily buy Nakata being confusing town than Ircher -- i dont think Nakata is towny, though.

Infinity is a gut thing tho yeh. I've had Infy close to the bottom but I sway a lot cause im just not sure. She's really odd, but im not so sure she's scum as I was the first time i saw her stances on Ircher
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