In post 1021, Servant Assassin wrote:The last, and only, specific reason to scumread Alter came from post 238. I don't find it convincing. How has that read matured over time and what specific posts can you point to as to support your conclusions?
That read has not changed. It is fully based on the early posts on Alter Ego having more evasive words in their posts than any normal townie. And no post of Alter Ego after that time has caused me to reconsider.
I think we have gotten everything we could have before the first elimination. We should move on.
Why are you in such a hurry? Why are you supposing that you aren't getting eliminated? In these types of games, the stump rules. What we say is just advice.
I think foreigner and saber both voting moon cancer and then both becoming counterwagons to moon cancer is probably town-indicative for them and scum-indicative for moon cancer, on average. (although saber could still be scum, I think moon cancer is most likely of the 3 to be scum regardless of saber's alignment). I thought saber's NP stuff was a bit oblivious and have no idea whether that's intentional or not, but on second thought I don't think I think it's inherently scummy.
I like this as its where I am at as well. Moon Caster's cavalierness (if that's a word) suggests a scumteam backing them.
our lord and savior: Berserker
probtown: Alter/Archer/Caster/Shielder/Rider/Ruler/Foreigner
null-ish: Assassin/Saber/Beast
probscum: Avenger/Moon Cancer
I'd move Ruler down to null, Avenger up to Null
But Beast Avenger Moon Caster Assassin doesn't feel like a scumteam so these are individual reads not team based.
In post 1040, Servant Alter Ego wrote:I'm not interested in moving off Saber when they haven't really responded to the votes on them or being wagoned at all. Also, the narrative of them being a "counterwagon" to Moon Cancer doesn't really track - 3 of the voters on Saber were common ith the ones on Moon Cancer - Me, Lancer, and Rider.
That's pretty fair. I hadn't responded due to life and demotivation with this game. Either I lost it for us by losing master or I was largely irrelevant and an easy place to push.
In post 1054, Servant Beast wrote:Is there some reason you're not responding to my posts but pretty much everyone else's? Is it not interesting or worth commenting on?
Not really, sometimes people can react in ways that give the game away if you just confront them about it.
I don't really think that happened here. Or at least, it's not obvious.
I hadn’t weighed in before now to try and preserve VCA as best as possible, but I think it’s 100% ridiculous that was the role Saber was so gung ho over.
Foreigners wagon has very little in actual substance about why he could be scum and appeared out of almost nowhere, and that put me off.
In post 1049, Servant Saber wrote:I'll fullclaim if Berserker determines it necessary, not before then. If that means I don't fullclaim, so be it. It's his town now.
@Berserker -- Do you think we should have Saber fullclaim?
