MT 2219: The Battle of Calculasia - Endgame

[Galron]

Of this, if all this is analysis like xlos was talking about, then what distingueshes the green flavor from the red flavor?

I'd like to know that too.

All I see is that anything to do with "Derivatives" has some kind of Cop to it.

Note: They were both claimed already by the time I called for the flavour claim.

If I was to believe that the flavour is alignment indicative I'd confirm DGB as Town (as that wasn't already evident by the nom flip), confirm Wheme (that's the player I was informed of their flavour and I do have "flavour" reason to TR them now IF flavour is alignment indicative), put Titus & Italiano as "same alignment" (both are Theorems).

So, unless we think the remaining 2 scums are exactly Titus+Italiano then scum are in Xlos, Jake, Galron & Toog

There's at least one more Theorem.

[Almost50]

@Titus: I

am

using Math theories. nom was "Derivatives" and had a Flavour

Cop

shot. T3 was Second "Derivative" Test and was a Modified Role

cop

. DGB is First "Derivative" Test, and claimed 1-shot Alignment

Cop

. If Flavour is indicative of ROLE (which it is from the Mod's quote I quoted yesterday) then Derivativ(s) = Cop. This should be enough for me to put DGB as an IC already.

Now I am a "Test" and so is Wheme, so I am assuming ... WAIT! Wheme isn't clear by this. He could be "Informed Scum" still. I'll let MATHBLADE decide on it. Wheme is "Root Test".

[Almost50]

There's at least one more Theorem.

I'll assume you're referring to yourself, in which case we can confirm your Toog suspicion at once: IF you are a VT, and Titus is a VT, then Toog is a GOON (Vanilla Scum). In other words, "Theorem" could mean "Vanilla" the same way "Derivative" meant "Cop".

[Galron]

@Galron, Why are you voting Toog?

Reading last page of day 2 it seemed fairly clear that if nom flipped red, toogs was probably not a rb.

And you didn't consider the possibility of nom knowing he had been roleblocked by a town toog?

If nom had tried to use his flavorcop and failed, he could have deduced he was blocked.

I didn't really take that into account, no. But mom claiming bring blocked and then toogs confirming was way too rest for whatever nom cooked up. I have both the benefit of the doubt the majority of the day, and mom's red flip soured me on the whole thing. I jumped right to tools scum and I still think that's the simplest explanation.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Also, Jake the memeing in place of solving needs to stop.

VOTE: Jake

I think this person should die.

Thoughts will be released later.

[Titus]

@Galron,

It seems much more likely that nomnomnom knew he was blocked and thus a town roleblocker would have to come out to verify the claim. Particularly if nom could confirm himself.

It's not as black and white as it seems.

I don't see why scum burn Toog when cop guilties get eliminated 99 out of 100 times.

[Titus]

Also, Jake the memeing in place of solving needs to stop.

VOTE: Jake

I think this person should die.

Thoughts will be released later.

Vig shoot this.

Thank you.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Sorry, I'm nort self-targetting.

[DrippingGoofball]

Do you care DGB? I feel like when I discuss mechanics with you that you're never going to trust me after Deco.

Each game is its own universe!

[DrippingGoofball]

I blocked Galron last night; they're probably pissed off about it. I'm out of roleblocks.

It was a gut shot blocking.

Is this something you'd say if you were town hoping to block a scum?

hell naw

[DrippingGoofball]

Flavors obviously have some meaning.

And so they do, since the scum had a "flavor cop."

[DrippingGoofball]

Good job yesterday .

I accept and welcome your praise

[DrippingGoofball]

Xlos' entry into this day is very townie.

[DrippingGoofball]

Also, Jake the memeing in place of solving needs to stop.

VOTE: Jake

I think this person should die.

Thoughts will be released later.

Are you claiming scum AGAIN????

[MathBlade]

@nomnomnom and Toog, Thoughts on my readslist?

Well, for starters, you have me as probable scum. How do you think I'll think of your read list?

Eliminating one of either DGB or nom³ is the most practical play today, with nom³ being the smart move.

After that is settled, the A50 stuff probably needs resolution.

At what point did you start town-reading nom³, Titus?

I blocked Galron last night; they're probably pissed off about it. I'm out of roleblocks.

It was a gut shot blocking.

Explain please.

This doesn’t add up. You were talking about A50 and Titus at end of day and choose to block Galron?

[MathBlade]

DGB, my vote is yours, if you want it. There is a way Toog can be town.

I also have a minor FoS on A50 based on what nom flipped.

Why does DGB have your vote Titus?
DGB has an explicit meta of doing this and hasn’t town told and hasn’t discussed any other reads.

[MathBlade]

Do you care DGB? I feel like when I discuss mechanics with you that you're never going to trust me after Deco.

Does DGB care about what? I feel like there’s a missing post here or this is meant for a scum PT. This doesn’t compute.

[DrippingGoofball]

Is Toog...

• a town roleblocker
  who happened to
  block a player who claimed to be a conditional PR
  ?
  
• scum (any role or goon)
  who
  pretended
  to have blocked nom to give credence to nom's claim of having been roleblocked?

[DrippingGoofball]

Do you care DGB? I feel like when I discuss mechanics with you that you're never going to trust me after Deco.

Does DGB care about what? I feel like there’s a missing post here or this is meant for a scum PT. This doesn’t compute.

She wants to know if I care that she is submitting her vote to my will given how she rolled me in a another game

[MathBlade]

Could be a fake out but unlikely.

You’re theorizing that a flavor cop is a fake out when it’s inside a joat?

When a doctor has flipped, an even night rolecop,, a claimed RB, a claimed one shot cop, and a neighbor?

I count two ways for follow the cop.
Flavor has to have some meaning here I think.
I also think it’s really antitown to keep talking about it.

[DrippingGoofball]

hasn’t discussed any other reads.

I can discuss other reads now that I am free from the shackles of getting you all to vote a bloody guilty.

[DrippingGoofball]

a claimed RB

I found the anomaly.

[MathBlade]

Flavors obviously have some meaning.

Why?

Look at nomnomnom's role PM. This gives some more town credit to the people who were trying not to have a mass flavorclaim (wheme and mathblade) and more scum credit to those in favor (A50 and DG). For now, I still think A50 is the most suspicious all together.

VOTE: Almost50

VOTE: A50

Definitely down for this.

If we assume for the sake of argument DGB is town (pretty much I would vig DGB simply to sate my paranoia) then I don’t think A50 would be a potential third way to have a cop check of some kind. This game has three scum overall. I am thinking yesterday A50 was trying to get nom out of the elim and so was Titus to an extent. I just don’t know which (if any) of Titus/A50 is town derp.

[Almost50]

Is Toog...

• a town roleblocker
  who happened to
  block a player who claimed to be a conditional PR
  ?
  
• scum (any role or goon)
  who
  pretended
  to have blocked nom to give credence to nom's claim of having been roleblocked?

My vote goes to the former option. He did still want nom yeeted, so his claim wasn't tp try and save him. (Check Math's post above for quotes of Toog showing his stance on You/Nom)

[DrippingGoofball]

MathBlade, for a paranoid MathDude, you sure are trusting Toogeloo.