MT 2219: The Battle of Calculasia - Endgame

[Titus]

VOTE: Toogeloo

You have my sword until wrong.

If it's wrong, vote Xlos.

[DrippingGoofball]

I do like A50's request to kill xlos, with the "tonight I guarantee," caveat, however.

A50 is going to hide with Xlos, if A50 dies then we know Xlos is scum. That's super townie.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Toogeloo

You have my sword until wrong.

If it's wrong, vote Xlos.

Awesome. I hope you believe it's a good vote.

[Titus]

I do like A50's request to kill xlos, with the "tonight I guarantee," caveat, however.

A50 is going to hide with Xlos, if A50 dies then we know Xlos is scum. That's super townie.

A50's hide is a joke IMO.

[Titus]

VOTE: Toogeloo

You have my sword until wrong.

If it's wrong, vote Xlos.

Awesome. I hope you believe it's a good vote.

It's theoretically possible, so I follow. I disagree by mechanical play but that alone is not worth breaking my bond.

[DrippingGoofball]

I do like A50's request to kill xlos, with the "tonight I guarantee," caveat, however.

A50 is going to hide with Xlos, if A50 dies then we know Xlos is scum. That's super townie.

A50's hide is a joke IMO.

Who am I to stop a vanilla townie from trying to draw the kill?

[Ircher]

Day 3 VC #3

Xlos (0):
Almost50 (1): Xlos (989)
Jake the Wolfie (1): Jake the Wolfie (1004)
Titus (1): MathBlade (1066)

Toogeloo (3) (F-2): Galron (976), DrippingGoofball (1074), Titus (1075)

Not Voting (3): WhemeStar, Almost50, Toogeloo

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to fade a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end no earlier than Thursday, July 8, 2021 9:45:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-07-08 21:45:00).
This phase will end no later than Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:45 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-07-14 21:45:00).

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Pronoun Key

1: DrippingGoofball : It
3: Xlos : He/him
4: Almost50 : He/him
5: Jake the Wolfie : Any
6: Galron : He/him
7: MathBlade : He/him
9: Titus : She/her
10: WhemeStar : He/him
12: Toogeloo : They/them

[Titus]

I do like A50's request to kill xlos, with the "tonight I guarantee," caveat, however.

A50 is going to hide with Xlos, if A50 dies then we know Xlos is scum. That's super townie.

A50's hide is a joke IMO.

Who am I to stop a vanilla townie from trying to draw the kill?

Fair enough. I was wrong.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I'm not sure if Titus scumreads me or if she just want me to die.

[Titus]

I'm not sure if Titus scumreads me or if she just want me to die.

The latter. You're reminding me of our last scum game.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Could you explain to me why?

[MathBlade]

Math, your argument is off the wall and inconsistent. You argue Toog is scum rb but the team is A50 and me.

I'm not doubting A50 can be scum. I'm just not joining your analysis that there must be scum.

I am arguing multiple different worlds Titus. You know that’s how I operate.

I am on VERY short spoons right now and I do not like you either not noticing the nuance or not giving a damn to.

I am arguing mechanically one of the people claiming to cop/setup info is scum OR Toog is. That’s the hard ifs.

Then by play of DGB/A50/Toog, A50 makes the most sense by play. (See prior posts)

[MathBlade]

A strongman can avoid follow the cop as well. What is suggested may not be true.

Toog may be scum, but mechanics don't damn him.

I literally fucking explained why that isn’t enough even granting a strongman kill on N2 of T3.

You still get one uncontrollable unmitigated cop check on N1 and still have follow the cop.

If strongman kill DGB follow the cop on T3.
If strongman kill T3 follow the cop on DGB.
(Assuming a50 town which I don’t buy) then you still have this “informed” from A50.

Therefore scum must have a way to mitigate this scenario or there.

There are two unmitigated “informed” here.

[MathBlade]

If you were going with your prior argument, dgb v nom is S v S. Posts like Xlos would be the third.

Xlos should be the wagon today.

VOTE: Xlos

That indeed is a possible world.

I just know that I want to flip in DGB / A50 / Toog until we see red.

[Jake The Wolfie]

What if, wild guess, scum have a redirector/bus drivor?

[MathBlade]

Explain please.

This doesn’t add up. You were talking about A50 and Titus at end of day and choose to block Galron?

I just felt that Galron wasn't getting any attention. Everyone knows I claimed Roleblocker, so blocking someone I suspect would seem obvious.

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I could vote either A50 or xlos based solely on their insistence of flavor claiming. I do like A50's request to kill xlos, with the "tonight I guarantee," caveat, however.

I don’t like this because it looks like scum trying to buy one more day and then when DGB doesn’t die and we have to elim him and then he memes and “told you so?”

I don’t barter with scum I eliminate them.

The most likely world is A50 and Titus.

[MathBlade]

What if, wild guess, scum have a redirector/bus drivor?

Then T3 doesn’t die N2 and we see a quick bus on Nom not resistance. Is it possible scum play suboptimally? Yes. Likely no.

Redirect T3 to a scum then T3 goes “omg so and so is scum” or in this case “Townie X is scum role Y” would happen.

The chaos would be palpable.

[MathBlade]

Xlos' post is so bad, but they are trying to figure things out and looking at every angle. They reached the wrong conclusion, sure, but it's a long "no stone unturned" post where they indeed left no stone unturned worth mentioning. The wheels are actually turning and following a slightly messy, but not nonsensical progression.

One day MathBlade will have enough information on me to realize I would never bus a useful buddy, only one that is a liability to the team and more useful dead than alive.

MathBlade could still be scum, it's a triple-replacement player slot that plays the paranoid card to the hilt and seems super-salty that the town has power roles.

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Night 1, Toog allegedly roleblocked nom, a claimed power role that had gotten little suspicion.
Night 2, Took allegedly roleblocked Galron, when he could have roleblocked a suspicious character like Xlos, MathBlade, Whemestar OR EVEN ME since there are a few people that think I hard bus'ed nomnomnom. I claimed 1-shot... if you think I'm scum then it's not a terrible wager that I might perform the kill.

Toog's actions makes zero sense, and when things don't make sense (like a friendly neighbor miller claiming on day 2 and allegedly also roleblocked) it's because we've hit scum.

His read progression, as Titus pointed out, also makes little sense.

VOTE: Toogeloo

Town DGB: oh no! Math is angry about not being listened to. Is it possible he’s scum? Oh maybe he’s scum pissed about the setup? Instead of I dunno thinking about the points and if you agree or disagree?

Scum DGB: Uh oh I hate Math’s dilemma he has me in. Quick shade him and get a miselim somewhere.

[Toogeloo]

I don’t like this because it looks like scum trying to buy one more day and then when DGB doesn’t die and we have to elim him and then he memes and “told you so?”

Fair...

VOTE: Almost50

[MathBlade]

At the top of the next page I am done will look after work / cooking tonight but Titus blatantly sheeping DGB seems wrong.

If the Toog elim succeeds and Toog is town I want in A50/DGB period. I know Toog is in my super elim pool but I want the scum in that trio.

[MathBlade]

I mean DGB wrote that entire post as if I am town then put in the shade later like omg.

[Jake The Wolfie]

What if, wild guess, scum have a redirector/bus drivor?

Then T3 doesn’t die N2 and we see a quick bus on Nom not resistance. Is it possible scum play suboptimally? Yes. Likely no.

Redirect T3 to a scum then T3 goes “omg so and so is scum” or in this case “Townie X is scum role Y” would happen.

The chaos would be palpable.

1st paragraph: I mean, killing a PR is infinitely better than that PR getting a technically correct guilty on scum. (If T3 targetted Scum B but was redirected to Scum C, then they caught scum either way)
Nom being a Joat Doc would probably make the scum think that they could be hunted by a Vigilante. That gives them adamant reason to resist Nom's axecution.

2nd Paragraph: Killing T3 is better than them getting an alt positive on scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

What if, wild guess, scum have a redirector/bus drivor?

That's something scum would say.

[DrippingGoofball]

I mean DGB wrote that entire post as if I am town then put in the shade later like omg.

Maybe it's because I don't know your alignment and I keep wavering? Every post of yours I read, I go back and forth a dozen times.

[DrippingGoofball]

At the top of the next page I am done will look after work / cooking tonight but Titus blatantly sheeping DGB seems wrong.

If the Toog elim succeeds and Toog is town I want in A50/DGB period. I know Toog is in my super elim pool but I want the scum in that trio.

Players that you'd think aren't in this game just reading MathBlade's iso:

Xlos
Galron
Jake The Wolfie
WhemeStar