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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:58 am

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With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to burn a servant.

Caster (1): Lancer
Avenger (1): Shielder
Ruler (1): Archer


Deadline: (expired on 2021-07-12 00:17:51)

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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:00 am

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@Archer, I was spitballing a theory to get my reads put together. I need to clarify that to myself.
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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:13 am

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In post 1350, Servant Lancer wrote:caster: reaction to the gladiate was nonexistent, used notscience's post as basis for vote and avoided saying literally anything else about the gladiate
I was not online during the gladiate

when I logged on the gladiate was over.
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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:18 am

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In post 1397, Servant Foreigner wrote:What is this vote? Caster had no earlier concerns about Moon but jumped in as soon as saw that Moon is going to die.
another lie

if you're town you should really learn how to read posts
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:20 am

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explain
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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:25 am

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This was my reply to Alter Ego when they questioned me about Moon Cancer. I was very fine with voting the slot and felt it was fairly good odds to flip scum but I had promised my vote to Berserker. I then went to sleep. When I logged on the gladiate was over, Berserker was replaced and instead of reading 8 pages of people yelling at Foreigner I just read what Notty's last post was and it was an OK to vote for the person I thought was pretty susp before I fell went to bed so I voted Moon Cancer.


In post 1082, Servant Caster wrote:
In post 1078, Servant Alter Ego wrote:What are your thoughts on Moon Cancer? You don't seem to have spoken about them at all.
They have eleven posts and none of them are very good?

Just skimming over its ISO it looks pretty bleh and not very involved in the game.

Could be lazy scum, could be lazy town. I don't like how it doesn't really justify it's reasoning for several votes/comments, transition from berserker is terrible to voting for berserker is absent.

I think it's a fine flip and probably better odds than random to flip scum.
In post 1084, Servant Caster wrote:I have promised my vote to Berserker and I will follow him wherever he goes <3
In post 1085, Servant Caster wrote:Since we have a shared deadline I would like to get the flip done before we are at 4 days so we have proper time to process the flip.
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:31 am

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In post 1402, Servant Caster wrote:
In post 1350, Servant Lancer wrote:caster: reaction to the gladiate was nonexistent, used notscience's post as basis for vote and avoided saying literally anything else about the gladiate
I was not online during the gladiate

when I logged on the gladiate was over.
ok and still no reaction to it?

also

this is literally during the gladiate:
In post 1248, Servant Caster wrote:VOTE: Avenger

I think this is what Notsci would've wanted from the post he slipped on
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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:32 am

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Caster, it's been a week since day 1 started. Do you have reads?
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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:33 am

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In post 1405, Servant Caster wrote:instead of reading 8 pages of people yelling at Foreigner I just read what Notty's last post was and it was an OK to vote for the person I thought was pretty susp before I fell went to bed so I voted Moon Cancer.
you voted avenger, who notscience did not mention in his last post, and cited notscience's last post for it. ???
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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:38 am

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I must've forgotten what actually happened since I was sleepy when I woke up.

I did vote avenger, that is what notty would've wanted between the two of them.
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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:39 am

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In post 1095, Annie Edison wrote:Yeah, I clocked that too foreigner. We will deal with them next flip.
^ this is the post I was referring to where Notty said he wanted Avenger dead on next flip.
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:46 am

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In post 1407, Servant Alter Ego wrote:Caster, it's been a week since day 1 started. Do you have reads?
I think we just keep killing the people who don't seem to care because I think the scum team might be demotivated and barely playing. The MC flip would imply this.

You can pick which ones you would like to go after.

My current order list is:

Towniest
Berserker, Alter Ego, Ruler, Shielder,
Beast, Foreigner, Lancer, Archer
Assassin,
Saber, Avenger
Rider
Scummiest
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:54 am

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Revising this:

Towniest

Berserker, Alter Ego, Ruler, Shielder,
Beast, Foreigner, Lancer, Archer
Assassin, Rider
Saber, Avenger

Scummiest

I didn't remember anything rider posted but then re-reading the ISO I thought was a pretty decent effort-ish.

Maybe I need to look in the townblock earlier than I thought I would have to.
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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:10 am

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In post 1275, Servant Beast wrote:I believe gladiator's can cancel their ability, I'm not sure if every gladiator can do that or if this was a unique mechanic where the name was revealed as a consequence in exchange for the ability to cancel.

Avenger can still be a scum miller, but his flavor is very spot on so I'm not sure they lied about anything.
cancelling gladiates outright is not a mechanic I believe is common
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:12 am

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In post 1286, Servant Alter Ego wrote:Help, Ruler broke character
is this important?
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:19 am

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In post 1355, Servant Shielder wrote:Personally I feel that a traffic analyst claim should at least earn Saber a night to attempt actions
I don't think TA is going to yield much given Moon's flip
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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:20 am

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In post 1411, Servant Caster wrote:I think we just keep killing the people who don't seem to care because I think the scum team might be demotivated and barely playing.
You realize that would probably mean killing you at this point?
In post 1414, Servant Berserker wrote:
In post 1286, Servant Alter Ego wrote:Help, Ruler broke character
is this important?
No, I was just making a joke. Not every post has to be important. Just found the allcaps "THIS IS DUMB AF" funny in contrast to the demeanor of their other posts.
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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:31 am

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In post 1367, Servant Alter Ego wrote:If I may be permitted a brief moment of self-indulgence: I told you so.
In post 1363, Servant Assassin wrote:I'll take a look at the relationship between Moon Caster and Saber, but I'm going to prudently treat Moon's reads as being WIFOM.
This is probably wise, NK15 hardly even bothered to explain himself after his first few posts, I feel like he went into shutdown mode the moment he got even the slightest bit of heat. Posts in the Townstumps Scum PT indicate he doesn't really put in effort.

What's going to be more relevant is how people positioned themselves around Moon Cancer. Given the strength of his role I suspect that scumteam didn't want to lose him right away and that was why he was so difficult to flip.

I'm not going to immediately jump on Avenger for the hasty gladiate, that was a dumb and incredibly frustrating move but I'm not sure if scum would willingly draw so much attention to themself like that. I have a few other people in mind I want to take a look back at.
Given this I take it you think scum should be off the Moon wagon, especially the initial one?
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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:37 am

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In post 1386, Servant Foreigner wrote:nice progression over two hours
I'm gonna be upfront that I'm very likely not going to condemn someone off progression alone because some people just have disconnected thoughts ig
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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:38 am

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In post 1417, Servant Berserker wrote:Given this I take it you think scum should be off the Moon wagon, especially the initial one?
I'd want to look for people who were resisting the scumreads on moon. I don't think being on/off-wagon for the final vote is that significant, but Lancer and Rider look very good for being after Moon early. My reads are in a bit of flux right now.
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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:40 am

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In post 1389, Servant Foreigner wrote:Me and saber were first to catch Moon, so you should follow me now.
where did you two "catch" Moon?
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:01 am

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In post 1420, Servant Berserker wrote:
In post 1389, Servant Foreigner wrote:Me and saber were first to catch Moon, so you should follow me now.
where did you two "catch" Moon?
I believe he is referring to the fact that they both voted Moon Cancer pretty early in the day, before their wagon gained steam

Spoiler:
In post 946, Cabd wrote:Moon Cancer (2): Foreigner, Saber
In post 950, Cabd wrote:Moon Cancer (2): Foreigner, Saber
In post 975, Cabd wrote:Moon Cancer (2): Foreigner, Saber
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:07 am

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that's not "catching" scum
otherwise you could catch scum by just voting every player
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:19 am

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Let Foreigner answer for themself.
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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:28 am

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In post 1416, Servant Alter Ego wrote:You realize that would probably mean killing you at this point?
I'm pretty sure I've cared/put more into this game than most playing have.

I've stepped back when I felt it was better for thread health and to let Berserker run things.

If I were scum I wouldn't be playing support. I usually just play mid solo.
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