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[Gamma Emerald]

why would I not block that bid?
I don't think you can argue I'm

that

clueless

[Something_Smart]

You mean jk, we had the tracker.

No, I mean the 2-shot tracker that was won yesterday for $200 after mastina publicly announced that she bid $200 on it.

[imaginality]

You bid 499 on GF correct?

So how does rb affect SS’ result?

yes

I'm talking about rb because I'm hoping they can block the scum NK tonight

If you flip town, scum use their hitman power.
What's your view on who won the hitman power if not you?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

You mean jk, we had the tracker.

No, I mean the 2-shot tracker that was won yesterday for $200 after mastina publicly announced that she bid $200 on it.

Oh that explains it then. I was wondering.

[Gamma Emerald]

not sure
who would have wanted mastina dead? that's probably the best lead

[Smoke and Mirrors]

not sure
who would have wanted mastina dead? that's probably the best lead

SS watched her and saw only you visit.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Gamma visited mastina.

VOTE: Gamma

It's a watcher result. Not saying whether anyone else visited her, because there's no reason to out that information-- Gamma shouldn't be able to visit at all if town.

[Something_Smart]

I didn't explicitly say that only he visited, but it doesn't matter; from his POV, I have to be lying, and therefore scum. But I also can't have won the hitman (even if I were scum) because I already spent 500.

[Gamma Emerald]

I know S_S is scum but iirc mastina TRed him

[Smoke and Mirrors]

the bids have been won for the following amounts

cop - [REDACTED]
doctor - 250
hitman 426
roleblocker - 410

I think whomever won the cop is dead because they had to have bid more than 365 for it and scum likely thought Distance was cop. Why else kill him?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I didn't explicitly say that only he visited, but it doesn't matter; from his POV, I have to be lying, and therefore scum. But I also can't have won the hitman (even if I were scum) because I already spent 500.

Yes you actually can because VFP won the 2 shot ninja.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I know S_S is scum but iirc mastina TRed him

If you honestly thought that, that would have been your first reaction and you would already be voting him.

[Something_Smart]

Yes you actually can because VFP won the 2 shot ninja.

Huh? I don't follow.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I know S_S is scum

but iirc mastina TRed him

Why the hedge here? It sounds like you don’t actually believe what you’re saying.

There are no bd/redirectors. You had no reason to visit if town.

You know he isn’t lying. You’re scum.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Yes you actually can because VFP won the 2 shot ninja.

Huh? I don't follow.

If anyone else had visited Mastina, you’d have seen it because VFP won the 2 shot ninja right?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I know S_S is scum

but iirc mastina TRed him

Why the hedge here? It sounds like you don’t actually believe what you’re saying.

There are no bd/redirectors. You had no reason to visit if town.

You know he isn’t lying. You’re scum.

You obviously don’t believe 1463 Gamma. If I “KNOW” a player is scum, I don’t hedge. You either know he’s scum or you don’t and 1463 reads like you know he isn’t,

[Something_Smart]

Oh I think we're talking about different things, my bad.

Yeah, I would see whoever visited mastina. I was just saying that I don't need to say if anyone else visited, because seeing Gamma visit is enough to know he's scum (and saying would provide more info to scum).

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Oh I think we're talking about different things, my bad.

Yeah, I would see whoever visited mastina. I was just saying that I don't need to say if anyone else visited, because seeing Gamma visit is enough to know he's scum (and saying would provide more info to scum).

Gamma is flailing caught scum. I don’t know how everyone isn’t seeing it.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

That’s definitely fake
But who’s the partner

not sure
who would have wanted mastina dead? that's probably the best lead

I know S_S is scum but iirc mastina TRed him

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Oh I think we're talking about different things, my bad.

Yeah, I would see whoever visited mastina. I was just saying that I don't need to say if anyone else visited, because seeing Gamma visit is enough to know he's scum (and saying would provide more info to scum).

Gamma is flailing caught scum. I don’t know how everyone isn’t seeing it.

Seriously, jesus fuck people!

[Something_Smart]

Gamma is flailing caught scum. I don’t know how everyone isn’t seeing it.

Yes, I agree with you. I think we just got some wires crossed there.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I know S_S is scum

but iirc mastina TRed him

Why the hedge here? It sounds like you don’t actually believe what you’re saying.

There are no bd/redirectors. You had no reason to visit if town.

You know he isn’t lying. You’re scum.

You obviously don’t believe 1463 Gamma. If I “KNOW” a player is scum, I don’t hedge. You either know he’s scum or you don’t and 1463 reads like you know he isn’t,

[imaginality]

Even if cop's not dead, as per my early game reasoning they absolutely shouldn't have waited this long to claim their result so I would not believe any cop claim now.

From the alive players, the bids I know of:
Imaginality: won 1-shot RB for 410, won 1-shot neighourizer 90, total 500
Ssbm: won 1-shot hitman for 426
S&M: won 1-shot AD 300, won 200, total 500
Gamma: won GF 499
Something_Smart: won 2-shot watcher 500
marcistar: won 2-shot gravedigger 225

The only players who could have won the 301 hitman are:
ssbm, marci, Gamma

So if Gamma flips town, and we manage to cram votes on Something_Smart tomorrow so we don't insta-lose, the other scum is either ssbm or marci

That said, I do think most likely it's Gamma + someone. And agree Gamma's vote should already be on Something_Smart.

The main doubt I have is why would scum not hide the watcher bid D3 and the hitman bid D4, if they weren't using them to frame Gamma?

[Something_Smart]

There's nobody alive who could have won cop if town so yeah the cop is either dead or scum.

The hides are indeed confusing but to me it looks like scum don't really know how to use it effectively, given how they didn't hide on two of the days and hid JK but didn't even win it.

My first instinct is that this points away from ssbm being scum, but it seems like imaginality is also good enough at mechanics, so it could just be them WIFOMing that they're bad at it.

[Gamma Emerald]

I know S_S is scum but iirc mastina TRed him

If you honestly thought that, that would have been your first reaction and you would already be voting him.

again, I don't think I'm winning the 1v1