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Dragon of the West · Post Post #3700 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:22 am

In post 3694, Titus wrote:3 masons

2 mason-lites

Titus · Post Post #3701 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:26 am

In post 3695, Dwlee99 wrote:I'm pretty sure the scum faction is 4 non-traitor scum. Did you mean 5 scum?

Yes. Brain fart. Used to minis.

Titus · Post Post #3702 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:27 am

In post 3700, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 3694, Titus wrote:3 masons
2 mason-lites

That's a typo but it was used to show we have like 5 conftown and a vig, so there should be at least 5 scum.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #3703 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:29 am

Voyeur wasn't conftown given we threw her off a roof. The babysitter/vig also wasn't conftown. Titus what role are you?

Dragon of the West · Post Post #3704 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:29 am

In post 3696, Dwlee99 wrote:To summarize my thoughts here:
We have Gamma with a clear on two people. Either one of these is scum or none of them can be something except for traitors. This removes STD/T3/Gamma from today's lim.

DotW is cleared.

That leaves Titus/Chaos/Kyo/Me/Andres/VFP as a lim pool.

Assuming town!gamma, limming in there (gonna exclude myself from this) gives us a 2 in 5 chance of hitting scum. That's pretty good.

Assuming Gamma!scum, we lim him leaving us in MELO or day before MELO and also may have hit scum assuming Gamma didn't pick both all the scum as the clears.

I'll ultimately defer to DotW here I just feel like if we can eek an extra investigation out it'd be good.

If Gamma is scum and your setup assumptions are correct then (including you) it's either a 1 in 6 or 0 in 6 chance of hitting scum today because they could be lying about one of their clears if scum. If Gamma is town then it's 2 in 6. If we flip gamma and they're town, tomorrow we have 2 in 6 chance because 8 people are left with 2 conftown. So the worst case scenario of limming gamma today, which is they're town, and then following up tomorrow matches the best case scenario of limming outside of gamma, T3, STD today

Titus · Post Post #3705 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:30 am

In post 3703, Dwlee99 wrote:Voyeur wasn't conftown given we threw her off a roof. The babysitter/vig also wasn't conftown. Titus what role are you?

Babysitter enabler.

Vig is conftown in normals.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #3706 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:36 am

If we think there are 3 scum alive or there's a good enough chance we should be killing gamma here today so we can just do that.

Pedit: except that the claim of babysitter vig isn't confirmable.

Dragon of the West · Post Post #3707 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:39 am

In post 3706, Dwlee99 wrote:If we think there are 3 scum alive or there's a good enough chance we should be killing gamma here today so we can just do that.

Pedit: except that the claim of babysitter vig isn't confirmable.

It is it you have a voyeur to see both actions happening to the same target

Dwlee99 · Post Post #3708 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:45 am

The chances of that are so abysmal but I'm not Gypyx.

Dragon of the West · Post Post #3709 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:01 am

Lol that was

mostly

tongue in cheek

Dragon of the West · Post Post #3710 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:06 am

Tbh I'm gonna wait for VFP to be off VLA and let everyone catch up and give thoughts before settling on anything but I think I'd like to lim Gamma today

Dwlee99 · Post Post #3711 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:06 am

Okay sounds good.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #3712 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:58 pm

lol it feels ironic to say this given the previous discussion but it feels stagnant

Dwlee99 · Post Post #3713 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:25 pm

Do you object to being killed.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #3714 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:05 pm

Dwlee99 · Post Post #3715 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:12 pm

Okay who would you want dead if not you?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #3716 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:24 pm

I'm currently voting andres, is that not clear enough?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #3717 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:25 pm

Okay fair enough ig. Idk you're a fresh pair of eyes so your perspective can be helpful if town.

Titus · Post Post #3718 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:00 pm

My god, please people show. Only 3 players posted in the last 24 hours.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #3719 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:02 pm

VOTE: Gamma

T3 · Post Post #3720 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:11 pm

This game lol
VOTE: gemma

Dragon of the West · Post Post #3721 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:15 pm

In post 3714, Gamma Emerald wrote:yes

Can you comment on the mechanics of being limmed or is it just "I'm town don't lim"

Titus · Post Post #3722 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:30 pm

L minus 2 on Gamma

Save The Dragons · Post Post #3723 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:47 pm

yeet titus

Dragon of the West · Post Post #3724 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:02 pm

Okay so just to make sure I get my thoughts out in case there's a quick hammer:
I think even if Gamma flips red that STD and T3 are

probably

town because scum!gamma would want their claims to flip green if needed. I also think that Gamma's reasoning for choosing T3 over Titus and Andres is weak. Because of that if Gamma flips red Titus and Andres should be pushed along with Dwlee