Mini Theme 2222: Open Draft Mafia [Game Over]

[NorwegianboyEE]

Catching up sucks for reads cus i’m doing this at like 1 AM.
Guess i’m just meme-ing the rest of the way and getting solves in real time.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Voting people when they act scummy?

Calling A50 scummy for that post is akin to calling Firepup scummy when he says yes after somebody asks him if he rolled scum.

Early game fuckery is not scum indicative.

Ok, didn't realize that was mostly directed at t3, still disagree here but yeah I'd like t3 to respond why he didn't vote immediately.

First vote isn't as sus to me as those who follow it.

Ok.
VOTE: A50

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway time for my real vote.
VOTE: Mastina

[NorwegianboyEE]

This is possibly the first game where i don’t townread Mastina yet?

[NorwegianboyEE]

she just knows I don't like being townread early.

In a game where I'm not struggling to form reads I'd humor you by obliging and recognizing that your strong scumgame means that you're not someone who is really truly readable on D1 but gets a pass to be read over time, placing you basically as above null on principle but only just, as to admit that you're not clearly and unambiguously town.

This is not one of those games though.

In a game where I'm struggling to form reads at all, fuck it, right or wrong I'm calling you town for the sake of

having

reads.

I accidentally tapped the report button instead of quote, but that’s almost fitting. I don’t think it’s very promising when Mastina says: "i have a hard time getting reads."
Why is this not one of those games Mastina? Why are you so lacking?

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: taly your catch up sticks . I use stink cause the other word is toxic so here your using lamest here and I think you reek as scum. So have at me.

1. Sorry, I gained nothing from this post in terms of solving.
2. If I did 1v1 you, I don't actually follow your reason for scumreading me - I'm being LAMIST? OK.
3. Who is my partner?

Asking ‘who is my partner’ is one of those phrases that just makes me think scum is saying: "Aha, i distanced so well. Just TRY to find my partners guys!æ

[NorwegianboyEE]

I swear, Infinity is like the easiest player to read in existence.

I would like go hear your thoughts on the slot

Infinity acts like they want to solve the game instead of hiding and crying into a pillow when called out for coasting.

[NorwegianboyEE]

notice me

norweeeeeeeee

<3

Taly weren’t you supposed to be obvious town when town the last time i checked?
What’s your reads this game?

[Flea The Magician]

Annoyingly thats 2 players who pass their WIM tell with flying colours....

[NorwegianboyEE]

Don’t kill anyone. I’m going to catch some Z’s.

[cyrus62]

T3 keeps saying I'm town I do not know if it's pocket attempt or not he has me worried . Dw seems to be acting exactly the same as are scum game which is why I said dajuva feelings earlier and not feeling good. 13 of. Us be down to 11 tomorrow so with so few of post and no action yet I find people making town reads scummy.

[mastina]

This isn't the only experience I've had with you where you had some difficulty with reads. Is there anything specific to this game that has made reads hard to garner?

If I knew the reason why I was having difficulty getting good reads, I'd be able to fix it.

Like you said, this isn't the only experience recently where it's been difficult for me. I legit don't know why. It could be real life stuff; it could be playerlist related; it could be me losing touch with the game of mafia (a lot of my time is spent these days on not-mafia stuff so the me that fronts is often the me who doesn't play mafia as much anymore); it could be the type of game being a theme game that's basically an open game (and thus not having theme mechanics/roles to spice things up); it could be the way the rvs goes; it could be multiple of the above, or it could be none of them. I genuinely don't know.

Lol Infinity r u town.

Oh wow. I legit didn't know your scumgame was this obvious, Norwee, but hot damn is it that obvious.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

I was already voting the slot but it was a soft suspicion.

This is the hardest of hard accuses.

As in, genuinely?

If NorwegianboyEE doesn't flip scum, immediately eliminate me.

I'm

that

sure that Norwee is scum here.

This is a hard 1v1

.

[Taly]

VOTE: taly your catch up sticks . I use stink cause the other word is toxic so here your using lamest here and I think you reek as scum. So have at me.

1. Sorry, I gained nothing from this post in terms of solving.
2. If I did 1v1 you, I don't actually follow your reason for scumreading me - I'm being LAMIST? OK.
3. Who is my partner?

Asking ‘who is my partner’ is one of those phrases that just makes me think scum is saying: "Aha, i distanced so well. Just TRY to find my partners guys!æ

It did prompt Cyrus to give his view of the scumteam in good detail, did it not? It served its purpose.

Why not find a town POV? There's no statement that anyone can make in a game that is 100% specific to an alignment.

notice me

norweeeeeeeee

<3

Taly weren’t you supposed to be obvious town when town the last time i checked?
What’s your reads this game?

You'll be surprised how often I get scumread in games. I don't think it's fair to use the reads of others to measure my alignment. I have a large tonal range as both alignments and very similar behavioral patterns as scum and as town, with only the underlying motive being the biggest tell.

Some people swear I'm an easy read, but if you read my signature, that is nowhere near a universal opinion.

As for my townreads? Infinity, Cyrus, Dw, Dunn, NDMath, T3 are all feeling solid.

Flea, Bingle, and House are all slots I have thoughts on but have not felt good about enough to call town. Everyone else is a shade of null.

To be truthful Norwee, I don't know what your catch up posts accomplish. They don't feel conclusive or directed.

[Taly]

Haha, I'm liking Mastina this game.

[mastina]

NGL i was spying on this game.

I think house would have to be pretty good at scum to be scum here, and the only reasoning I can find for scumreading him is vague gut pings.

Why is that? I haven't read much more than your posting frequency. But from my experience with House he's obvscum when town so not the easiest slot i've dealt with.

Something about these doesn't add up.

I wonder what?

(But really. Literally anyone who has played with NorwegianboyEE should instantly know that this isn't his towngame. It's immediately obvious from literally his first post and literally every post he has made since then has only solidified this. I have seen him play as town many, many, many times, and always, I was like, "Norwee looks really damn town here but I've never seen Norwee as scum before so I can't be absolutely sure that this is Norwee as town". Well, now I know what Norwee is like as scum so in hindsight literally every time I doubted Norwee as town was me being really stupid because it's just. that. obvious.)

[Taly]

Norwee's posting has been more shallow thus far than in previous experiences, and Flea may have been on to something about Mom dropping scum games.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

I still love you Norwe

[mastina]

Idk given my knowledge of A50's character he could just be trolling??

I wouldn't call Almost50's moves trolling, unless you gave it the prefix of 'tactical-' in front of it. He doesn't troll, but he does do things for reasons, but those things are best explained by him, not me, when he comes around to commenting again. (Granted, if he doesn't give the explanation I am more or less looking for I would think him scum; we'll have to see.)

That having been said, I believe this to be Norwee white knighting Almost50 rather than defending a scumbuddy. Why?

Honestly? Gut. Maybe it's the wishy-washy nature of Norwee's defense but that fits either way as scum whiteknighting town but not hard-committing to the defense or as scum defending a scumbuddy but not committing to the defense so my thought of Norwee-scum, A50 town has to come from somewhere else and lacking being able to tell from where, my answer is just gut.

I'm trying to be less fluffy. I'm not managing it well :3

As long as you're voting in the right place, you can fluff all you want.

[mastina]

Wtf Mastina. Where is the early full reads list?

Flea the Magician
Dunnstral
Bingle

Taly
House
cyrus62
Almost50

Dwlee99

NDMath
T3

Infinity 324

Momrangal

Hereabouts.

Literally almost immediately after the quoted post, and notably, I was struggling hardcore with a bunch of stuff including being incredibly tired at the time and depressed for the last week so I was doing my damnedest in spite of my circumstances to still try to give things.

But since you brought up a readslist, let's form another!

Flea the Magician
Taly

Dunnstral
Bingle

House
cyrus62

Almost50
Dwlee99

Infinity 324
NDMath

T3



Momrangal/NorwegianboyEE

Locktown, has good reason to be treated as locktown, townreads, I-think-they're-town-but-not-so-strongly, I-am-struggling-to-read (null/ambivalent), not-sure-but-leaning-scum, lockscum of lockscum.

[Taly]

If NorwegianboyEE doesn't flip scum, immediately eliminate me.

I'm

that

sure that Norwee is scum here.

This is a hard 1v1

.

I won't let you monopolize all the risk.

FUCKING I CAN'T FIND A WAY TO ADD GIFS TO MS WITHOUT GETTING AN APP ON PHONE

Just insert a Yumeko Jabami GIF mentally here!

[Bingle]

Bingle can you share some of that good shit you’re smoking?

No drugs, but I did bring enough scotch for the entire class.

I feel that it is important to note that I did in fact miss A50's doctor crumb but I am not hard pocketed by A50, so his summation of events for the scumteam was at best 50% accurate.

[Bingle]

If NorwegianboyEE doesn't flip scum, immediately eliminate me.

I'm

that

sure that Norwee is scum here.

This is a hard 1v1

.

I won't let you monopolize all the risk.

FUCKING I CAN'T FIND A WAY TO ADD GIFS TO MS WITHOUT GETTING AN APP ON PHONE

I got you.

[Taly]

Bingle's pocketing game is real good.

[Infinity 324]

I think taly is obvtown this game tbh

Norwee too kinda lol

[Bingle]

I'll ask a third time:

Why is T3 scum here when he has misread Mastina as town in the past?

This is House's answer, btw.

Already stated. It's an easy thing to duplicate since he's done it as town, which is what I suspect he's doing because of his unwillingness to accept the fact that posting early reads isn't some sort of magical scum tell for her.

He's invested in his narrative.

He hasn't really explained why T3 *would* go out of his way to duplicate NAI behavior as scum.


I'm looking forward to the Norwee/mastina fight.

[Bingle]

Bingle's pocketing game is real good.