Newbie 2070 - Airplanes | GAME OVER

[Roden]

You guys terrified me with all these votes, I was worried someone was about to get hammered before I could finish catching up on posts.

Val, please don't self hammer, I genuinely don't think it's you. Nancy is town locked for me and your spat with her was so TvT it hurts.

Scum is between Clark and Grandpa,100%. I'm not voting Val and if Clark continues to push him I'll vote Clark today. I've been leaning more towards Grandpa as the game goes on but I'm convinced that any push on Val has to be scum motivated. I don't believe even Nancy votes Val in a F3 scenario and scum likely believes the same.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Between Roden, Me, and either (grandpa, clark)?

It would be GG, because me and Roden would vote whomever we don't flip of {Grandpa, Clark}. Thats why that's never going to happen; scum know its GG, WIFOM or not.

You and Roden are 100% Locktown to me now. Maybe there is some outside posibility Grandpa or Clark convince Roden to lim me, but given his reads today, would you bet the game on that if you were scum?

Probably not although I could possibly a Radiant Cowbells possibly doing that and using that exact same argument.

But yeah, Roden isn’t tr Clark.

[Nancy Drew 39]

VOTE: Clarkbar

He isn’t playing extremely differently here from the game I miselimed him in so I’m wary.

I hate this. Why move my vote? E-1 is fun!

VOTE: GrandpaMo

This post is ick.

I think Clark’s play makes the most sense as a buddy.

So spiritually my vote is on Clark.

[GrandpaMo]

Nancy, the only ELO I don't really want is Grandpa/Me with you alive; because I worry the spat we had D1 would influence your decision.

With that in mind, even though I think ClarkBar is the likley candidate, me or Grandpa should go today.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Grandpa

BRO CAN YALL STOP FLIP FLOPPIONG

THIS LITERALLY CONFIRMS THERE IS SCUM BETWEEN YALL

AS SOON CLARK UNVOTES ME AND VOTES VAL

VAL UNVOTES AGAIN AND VOTES ME THEN VICE VERSA

ITS ACTUALLY ANNOYING . IDK WHO IS SCUM JUST FUCKING AROUND XD

[GrandpaMo]

You guys terrified me with all these votes, I was worried someone was about to get hammered before I could finish catching up on posts.

Val, please don't self hammer, I genuinely don't think it's you. Nancy is town locked for me and your spat with her was so TvT it hurts.

Scum is between Clark and Grandpa,100%. I'm not voting Val and if Clark continues to push him I'll vote Clark today. I've been leaning more towards Grandpa as the game goes on but I'm convinced that any push on Val has to be scum motivated. I don't believe even Nancy votes Val in a F3 scenario and scum likely believes the same.

how can i be scum if both clark and val literally voted me flip flopping their narratives.

when val had voted clark, clark had voted me

when clark unvoted me then voted me, val had voted me

like does that not confirm me as town unless either

roden / nancy is scum and we arent thinking that?

unless somehow BOTH CLARK AND VAL scumread me 100%

then there is literally no way

[GrandpaMo]

im confused wit this game atp.

idk what scum is doing anymore

[GrandpaMo]

VOTE: Clarkbar

He isn’t playing extremely differently here from the game I miselimed him in so I’m wary.

I hate this. Why move my vote? E-1 is fun!

VOTE: GrandpaMo

This post is ick.

I think Clark’s play makes the most sense as a buddy.

So spiritually my vote is on Clark.

so r u saying u wanna vote clark?

[GrandpaMo]

like shit im fucking willling to vote WITH val to vote clark

and im willing to vote WITH clark to vote val

like regardless if im alive in the f3, thats how im gonna play it, voting the other one (depending on who dies at night tho)

but the misguided town in that duo is scared and is not pushing one each other and is being influenced to easily use me as limbait it all fucking makes sense.

[Roden]

I'm gonna put it this way Grandpa. If you don't vote Clark, I'm going to take it as you need him in end game because you're scum. If you vote Val, I'll consider it a scum tell. It's up to you to interpret why I think this.

[GrandpaMo]

I'm gonna put it this way Grandpa. If you don't vote Clark, I'm going to take it as you need him in end game because you're scum. If you vote Val, I'll consider it a scum tell. It's up to you to interpret why I think this.

i dont get why u think this. this literally makes no sense.


so who ever i vote, you will scumread me regardless??? what anti town behavior shit is that

if you are town , you can't have that mindset because you will lock urself into never ending prophecy of bias.

you need to stop and then reread the game every time.

[Roden]

I'm gonna put it this way Grandpa. If you don't vote Clark, I'm going to take it as you need him in end game because you're scum. If you vote Val, I'll consider it a scum tell. It's up to you to interpret why I think this.

i dont get why u think this. this literally makes no sense.


so who ever i vote, you will scumread me regardless??? what anti town behavior shit is that

if you are town , you can't have that mindset because you will lock urself into never ending prophecy of bias.

you need to stop and then reread the game every time.

I didn't say that...

Can you please just read before you post? Literally every time I post, you grossly misinterpret everything I say or just flat out claim something I clearly didn't say. I have no idea if you're genuinely confused or faking cluelessness as scum.

[Roden]

you need to stop and then reread the game every time.

This is so frustrating to see you post lol. I've been begging you to reread because you keep getting things wrong, please don't project this on me.

[GrandpaMo]

If you don't vote Clark, I'm going to take it as you need him in end game because you're scum. If you vote Val, I'll consider it a scum tell. It's up to you to interpret why I think this.

u literally did what u are talking bout.


if i dont vote clark, meaning i vote val, you will scumread me.

if i vote val, you will consider it scumtell.

thats literally what u said

[GrandpaMo]

wait what do u mean by scumtell

[GrandpaMo]

are you saying u will scumread me if i vote val because i dont wanna vote clark

and you will scumread me if i just vote val as scumread?

[GrandpaMo]

you need to stop and then reread the game every time.

This is so frustrating to see you post lol. I've been begging you to reread because you keep getting things wrong, please don't project this on me.

also this meant to be in the context of like if u have bias then you wil entually have to reread teh game and get different interpertations

[Roden]

If you don't vote Clark, I'm going to take it as you need him in end game because you're scum. If you vote Val, I'll consider it a scum tell. It's up to you to interpret why I think this.

u literally did what u are talking bout.


if i dont vote clark, meaning i vote val, you will scumread me.

if i vote val, you will consider it scumtell.

thats literally what u said

so who ever i vote, you will scumread me regardless??? what anti town behavior shit is that

You've already contradicted yourself here.

are you saying u will scumread me if i vote val because i dont wanna vote clark

and you will scumread me if i just vote val as scumread?

Yes, and I said this to Clark too. I'm almost entirely certain Val is town and I'll consider it scummy if anyone wants him or Nancy gone.

[Roden]

you need to stop and then reread the game every time.

This is so frustrating to see you post lol. I've been begging you to reread because you keep getting things wrong, please don't project this on me.

also this meant to be in the context of like if u have bias then you wil entually have to reread teh game and get different interpertations

This isn't bias.

[Val89]

I never thought I would ever find myself pleased at having been scumread, but the possibility that it would otherwise be me casting the decision vote in a ELO with Grandpa in it chills me to the core.

[Nancy Drew 39]

VOTE: Clarkbar

He isn’t playing extremely differently here from the game I miselimed him in so I’m wary.

I hate this. Why move my vote? E-1 is fun!

VOTE: GrandpaMo

This post is ick.

I think Clark’s play makes the most sense as a buddy.

So spiritually my vote is on Clark.

so r u saying u wanna vote clark?

I think he’s most likely to be scum.

You’re theory on VaL/Clark would only really make sense if we hadn’t already flipped James, because only one can be scum.

[Nancy Drew 39]

are you saying u will scumread me if i vote val because i dont wanna vote clark

and you will scumread me if i just vote val as scumread?

Why do you sr Val > Clark?

[ClarkBar]

I'm almost entirely certain Val is town and I'll consider it scummy if anyone wants him or Nancy gone.

I must have missed your explanation for this, I apologize. Why are you almost entirely certain Val is town?

So I'm really torn between Val and Grandpa, as my voting and posting demonstrates. I think that you should all just eliminate me. I'm widely scumread (not sure why) and that's cool. I'll be an issue going forward, and it feels like arguments are going in circles at this point. Plus I'm just vanilla, so no harm no foul. Obviously it would be preferable to get scum today, but Grandpa has 131 going for him, Val has Roden's (almost) certainty that he is town, and I have nothing. I think my play and how the wagon on Chuck went goes strongly in my favor, but that is apparently just me.

I won't vote for myself out of principle, but beyond that I don't think I have anything left to say.

[Roden]

I'm almost entirely certain Val is town and I'll consider it scummy if anyone wants him or Nancy gone.

I must have missed your explanation for this, I apologize. Why are you almost entirely certain Val is town?

Mainly this:

Val, please don't self hammer, I genuinely don't think it's you. Nancy is town locked for me and your spat with her was so TvT it hurts.

But also his explanation in 708 was incredibly sound. I was expecting a damage control post but everything he said sounded reasonable and added up according to his earlier actions. Most of all, he didn't get defensive, which I'd expect from scum who's back was up against the wall and couldn't afford to have attention on them.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I'm almost entirely certain Val is town and I'll consider it scummy if anyone wants him or Nancy gone.

I must have missed your explanation for this, I apologize. Why are you almost entirely certain Val is town?

So I'm really torn between Val and Grandpa, as my voting and posting demonstrates. I think that you should all just eliminate me. I'm widely scumread (not sure why) and that's cool. I'll be an issue going forward, and it feels like arguments are going in circles at this point. Plus I'm just vanilla, so no harm no foul. Obviously it would be preferable to get scum today, but Grandpa has 131 going for him, Val has Roden's (almost) certainty that he is town, and I have nothing. I think my play and how the wagon on Chuck went goes strongly in my favor, but that is apparently just me.

I won't vote for myself out of principle, but beyond that I don't think I have anything left to say.

Either Clark is brilliant here or he’s actually telling the truth.

@Mo, can you please give us some reads. You’re the only one who is taking the attitude that everyone but you is equally likely to be scum.

[Val89]

and how the wagon on Chuck went goes strongly in my favor,

Clark, would you mind explaining what you mean by this?