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Post Post #2500 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:12 am

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In post 2366, Morning Tweet wrote:Okay, nevermind, I guess I'm on my own. Sorry for this barrage of questions flea feel free to answer or not answer any of them

@
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, why do you think it's the best use of our day two elimination to kill Tanner solely to test out the criminal thing? Additionally, why Tanner over Chara who is confirmed in the same way?

Is it really worth it to sacrifice Tanner and our D2 to *MAYBE* get information? Additionally, you can see that the majority of the game isn't using the criminal system to determine votes, why are you making it lock your vote onto Tanner permanently? And why didn't you do this D1 -- what changed today?

Now i'm not really convinced Flea is scum but i suppose im struggling to understand faer play this game thus far.
Tanner is a criminal by all given PoE. Chara is not as locked in as Tanner is barring my tinfoil.

I would've really wanted to do it D1, but people were happy to dismiss Yin as nothing but flavour. Something which has changed drastically today it seems.

As town, we eliminate scum using what tools are available. Silent Star are known for fucky mechanics - and I know Hectic is having input to these answers.
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Post Post #2501 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:12 am

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Clidd I will 1vs1 all day every day, you know that.
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Post Post #2502 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:13 am

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In post 2367, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 2361, Morning Tweet wrote:
With no assumptions on Infinity and Norwe..


Infinity and Norwe were not both criminals.
Tanner is a
criminal
.
Chara is a
criminal
.
Amy, Robert, Ircher, and Ydrasse are
not criminals
.

One or two of Flea/clidd/Tweet/Pooky/Nakata are a
criminal
.

One or more of Flea/Nakata/Pooky are a
criminal
.
Zero or two, but not one, of Morning/clidd/Pooky are a
criminal
.
---///---

Assuming Infinity was a criminal and Norwe was not..


Infinity was a
criminal
.

Tanner is a
criminal
.
Chara is a
criminal
.
Norwe was not a
criminal
.

Amy, Robert, Ircher, and Ydrasse are
not criminals
.

One of Flea/Nakata is a
criminal
.
Morning, clidd, and Pooky are
not criminals
.
Yin also said that Pooky voted a criminal and since Pooky has an antibussing meta, would make him town.
Where? I've not seen that.
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Post Post #2503 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:13 am

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By play, however, Flea can be anything (keep that in mind).

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Post Post #2504 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:14 am

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End of 95, my solve sits at Robert, Tweetie, Tanner.
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Post Post #2505 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:15 am

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In post 2400, Yang wrote:Flea should be the next elimination. Fae is part of an informed minority. I'm afraid fae wants banish me back to the demon world.
I just got fucking conftown'd by Yang, amazing. I'll cover this later.
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Post Post #2506 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:23 am

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In post 2502, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 2367, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 2361, Morning Tweet wrote:
With no assumptions on Infinity and Norwe..


Infinity and Norwe were not both criminals.
Tanner is a
criminal
.
Chara is a
criminal
.
Amy, Robert, Ircher, and Ydrasse are
not criminals
.

One or two of Flea/clidd/Tweet/Pooky/Nakata are a
criminal
.

One or more of Flea/Nakata/Pooky are a
criminal
.
Zero or two, but not one, of Morning/clidd/Pooky are a
criminal
.
---///---

Assuming Infinity was a criminal and Norwe was not..


Infinity was a
criminal
.

Tanner is a
criminal
.
Chara is a
criminal
.
Norwe was not a
criminal
.

Amy, Robert, Ircher, and Ydrasse are
not criminals
.

One of Flea/Nakata is a
criminal
.
Morning, clidd, and Pooky are
not criminals
.
Yin also said that Pooky voted a criminal and since Pooky has an antibussing meta, would make him town.
Where? I've not seen that.
I think Pooky asked if he’d ever voted a criminal and Yin said yes but I’m really not putting too much stock into anything Yin has said other than me/Ydrasse/Ircher are town. Yin told Pooky there was scum in Chara apparently but I think Chara has been really townie.

Based off Yang’s posts in particular - claiming Infinity is obvtown, I’m not going to put a lot of stock into what either NPA says.
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Post Post #2507 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:24 am

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In post 2504, Flea The Magician wrote:End of 95, my solve sits at Robert, Tweetie, Tanner.
Can you explain Tweetie, Tanner?
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Post Post #2508 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:37 am

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In post 2409, Chara wrote:
In post 2229, Flea The Magician wrote:That bottom one change to Is there Mafia in Flea, Chara and Ydrasse and Is there Mafia in Ircher, Ydrasee and Chara. or something like that.

Basically you need to PoE the questions and PEOPLE NEED TO COORDINATE.

But hey leashing questions is no fun and nobody likes taking suggestions :)
when your conclusions are just "Tanner and Chara scum" because Yin said so, when if that were reality this game wouldn't be mafia so much as twenty questions and solvable day 1 from only one player with the right questions, yes, you're not going to get coordination on this.

i can understand wanting to figure out Yin. i'd also like to figure out what he does in this game. i don't think your theory is correct so i'm not going to coordinate on it, but that doesn't mean i'm not paying attention to the answers.

i don't understand doing that at the expense of all scumhunting and making yourself impossible to read. you can do both things.
Actually I was responding to the questions Amy gave and modified them as such to give the answers she was looking for.

Silent Star and heavy mechanical BS.
This is one such instance of heavy mechanical BS and honestly the mechanics will have a big part on the balance of this. We Work out the strength of the mechanic and how it works, we get closer to solving.
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Post Post #2509 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:39 am

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In post 2506, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 2502, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 2367, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 2361, Morning Tweet wrote:
With no assumptions on Infinity and Norwe..


Infinity and Norwe were not both criminals.
Tanner is a
criminal
.
Chara is a
criminal
.
Amy, Robert, Ircher, and Ydrasse are
not criminals
.

One or two of Flea/clidd/Tweet/Pooky/Nakata are a
criminal
.

One or more of Flea/Nakata/Pooky are a
criminal
.
Zero or two, but not one, of Morning/clidd/Pooky are a
criminal
.
---///---

Assuming Infinity was a criminal and Norwe was not..


Infinity was a
criminal
.

Tanner is a
criminal
.
Chara is a
criminal
.
Norwe was not a
criminal
.

Amy, Robert, Ircher, and Ydrasse are
not criminals
.

One of Flea/Nakata is a
criminal
.
Morning, clidd, and Pooky are
not criminals
.
Yin also said that Pooky voted a criminal and since Pooky has an antibussing meta, would make him town.
Where? I've not seen that.
I think Pooky asked if he’d ever voted a criminal and Yin said yes but I’m really not putting too much stock into anything Yin has said other than me/Ydrasse/Ircher are town. Yin told Pooky there was scum in Chara apparently but I think Chara has been really townie.

Based off Yang’s posts in particular - claiming Infinity is obvtown, I’m not going to put a lot of stock into what either NPA says.
Pooky asked if there was scum in the public masonary, so from Pooks PoV, Chara should be confscum going on the assumption Yin is telling the truth and Yang lies about everything.
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Post Post #2510 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:40 am

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In post 2507, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 2504, Flea The Magician wrote:End of 95, my solve sits at Robert, Tweetie, Tanner.
Can you explain Tweetie, Tanner?
Tanners is mechscum as far as I'm concerned. Tweeties interactions with Ydrasse over Robert feel informed.
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Post Post #2511 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:41 am

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In post 2410, Yang wrote:Flea is mafia fae recommended me the wrong dessert for me after my evening meal
You didn't tell me you weren't a fan of custard! That's your town fault >:(
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Post Post #2512 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:48 am

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In post 2422, Amy Dunne wrote:What I found interesting about Flea’s posting yesterday, was that fae vanity voted Tanner for the longest time and only after Infinity wagon gained momentum, did fae suddenly switch to Nakata. There was a real window of opportunity where Nakata could have actually been the lim BEFORE Infinity wagon gained unstoppable momentum but at the point fae switched to Nakata, that wagon was clearly not happening.
Took you lot long enough to mention this.

My EoD positioning yesterday is scummy as fuck.

But I have NEVER been so certain on my reads.
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Post Post #2513 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:49 am

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Remind me, why are you so certain about your reads this game?
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Post Post #2514 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:54 am

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In post 2431, Ircher wrote:UNVOTE:

Actually, I'm going to unvote for now because Flea responds rather poorly to pressure, but I would like to see more from that slot within the next 24 or so hours.
Love that you make this comment on a sunday, when weekends are a time generally where people have less game time pressure to do things.
Ircher wrote:Remind me, why are you so certain about your reads this game?
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Post Post #2515 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:01 am

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In post 2454, Robert M Hunter wrote:@Flea
What is your opinion on me? I am very controversial and you have ignored me.
Yeet.
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Post Post #2516 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:03 am

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Nakata has received a prod. Nakata didn’t realise the game had restarted.
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In post 2516, sang froid wrote:Nakata has received a prod. Nakata didn’t realise the game had restarted.
Nakata clicked on the wrong account beginning with “S”. Nakata is giving a deep sigh.
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Post Post #2518 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:11 am

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It's fine, we won't use that against you.
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soooooo want to explain yourself ?
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Nakata is not sure what Ydrasse means. Nakata doesn’t think there’s anything to explain.
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Post Post #2522 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:14 am

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In post 2518, clidd wrote:It's fine, we won't use that against you.
Nakata is relieved to hear that Clidd is still a friend!
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Post Post #2523 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:17 am

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OK I'm caught up.

While I'm no where near outside my wolfrange. scumFlea here would ignore the mech aspect and hardpush away from Yin/Yang.

Scum know the mechanics at play ehre. I'm sure of it.
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Post Post #2524 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:22 am

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hmm... ok I'm not conf by yang. i had a theory, it didn't pan out.
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