MT 2219: The Battle of Calculasia - Endgame

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:38 am

My A50 town read has been weakened since I saw your link to a game where he behaved the same way as scum. I am not sure I trust my read as much as I did before.

I don't know about Titus. I'll trust your read more than mine.

Galron, it's more a lack of a scumread than a townread.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:39 am

In post 1398, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1397, DrippingGoofball wrote:My solve is Toog/Jake, if I'm wrong maybe Xlos, Wheme or MathBlade.
The Chainaxers just released their newest album called "Everyone's a little scum"

At least I'm not pretending to be confused.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:13 am

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

No. No. Fuck that. I'm not taking your shit right now. You don't get to decide ifbother people are being genuine or not.

Ircher · Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:28 am

Day 3 VC #8DrippingGoofball (1): Jake the Wolfie (1402)

Xlos (3) (F-2): Almost50 (1133), Toogeloo (1134), Galron (1269)

Almost50 (2): Xlos (1135), MathBlade (1124)
Jake the Wolfie (0):
Titus (0):
Toogeloo (2): DrippingGoofball (1074), Titus (1075)

Not Voting (1): WhemeStar

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to fade a player.

DeadlinesThis phase will end no earlier than Thursday, July 8, 2021 9:45:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-07-08 21:45:00).
This phase will end no later than Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:45 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-07-14 21:45:00).

Moderator Notes1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, please inform me each week.
2: Please let me know if you have a different pronoun preference than listed below.

Pronoun Key1: DrippingGoofball : It
3: Xlos : He/him
4: Almost50 : He/him
5: Jake the Wolfie : Any
6: Galron : He/him
7: MathBlade : He/him
9: Titus : She/her
10: WhemeStar : He/him
12: Toogeloo : They/them

Titus · Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:43 am

In post 1402, Jake The Wolfie wrote:VOTE: DrippingGoofball

No. No. Fuck that. I'm not taking your shit right now. You don't get to decide ifbother people are being genuine or not.

Isn't that the point of the game for town?

Titus · Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:46 am

In post 1400, DrippingGoofball wrote:I don't know about Titus. I'll trust your read more than mine.

This is fair given the last game, but I hope you'll see the differences.

MathBlade · Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:03 am

In post 1402, Jake The Wolfie wrote:VOTE: DrippingGoofball

No. No. Fuck that. I'm not taking your shit right now. You don't get to decide ifbother people are being genuine or not.

I have to go to work and will respond to the lengthy stuff overnight but I think DGB would be an excellent vig shot. I don’t think anyone wants to elim there because of the “guilty” on nom but I think DGB is so much better than what it’s doing if town.

If DGB is scum then I think it breaks the game wide open but if DGB is town it gives a solid direction of where to go next.

I just hope I am right and there is a vig and he/she/they agree with me.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:12 am

In post 1404, Titus wrote:
In post 1402, Jake The Wolfie wrote:VOTE: DrippingGoofball

No. No. Fuck that. I'm not taking your shit right now. You don't get to decide ifbother people are being genuine or not.
Isn't that the point of the game for town?

DGB appeared to be attacking my play because I was "acting" confused.

Toogeloo · Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:36 am

Can we wait for a vig that may or may not exist?

DGB claimed 1-shot cop before T3 claimed. Role Cop is meant to try and catch liars since a player who hasn't claimed would just true claim their role. Roles like Roleblocker would be Miller-esque to a Role Cop.

If DGB is scum, and used a fake claim, then a Role Cop becomes a serious threat, which might be the main reason T3 dies last night.

DGB's only townie play from my perspective was the guilty claim on nom³, which is a gambit that DGB scum is known to do.

@A50, how confident is your push on Xlos, and what's your input in a possible DGB lim?

Xlos · Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:45 am

This isnt really working. Everyone is too committed to their reads. Ill offer a trade: today I’ll vote Toog if both DGB and Titus vote A50 tomorrow. Assuming that they survive the night. This is fair since math will probably move his vote after I do, and tonight scum can easily kill someone suspicious of A50. So if I can’t get at least 2 promised extra votes on A50 tomorrow its a waste of time.

I dont want to vote Toog, they are pretty close to null for me. But Ill take the risk and trust your reads if you trust mine tomorrow (especially if Im dead). Probably not even that much of a trade since I think A50 will be Vigged in the night.

Pedit: Ill also join the DGB wagon for 2 A50 votes tommorrow.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:51 am

MathBlade, I'm so disappointed in you. I can always count on you getting my alignment right. Now you are providing cover for scum to vote me today, and ask for my "vig." You are responsible for giving legs to that dumb theory that I would do the exact same gambit as scum over and over again.

Scum will claim to vig me tonight and Toog will claim to have roleblocked a townie and frame that townie as scum.

Toog is scum, it's staring us in the face.

He claims to have roleblocked a widely townread player who claimed a PR, just in time to support nomscum's FN fakeclaim.

You don't get more obvious scum than that. I don't understand how we are distracting each other to look elsewhere.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:52 am

In post 1409, Xlos wrote:today I’ll vote Toog if both DGB and Titus vote A50 tomorrow.

100% willing to commit to this.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:55 am

In post 1402, Jake The Wolfie wrote:VOTE: DrippingGoofball

No. No. Fuck that. I'm not taking your shit right now. You don't get to decide ifbother people are being genuine or not.

Nobody else seems to be confused, I think it's just a excuse to do nothing and troll your way to end game. It's Day 2 and we hit scum. Go read nom and tell us who you think his buddies are.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:34 am

In post 1412, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1402, Jake The Wolfie wrote:VOTE: DrippingGoofball

No. No. Fuck that. I'm not taking your shit right now. You don't get to decide ifbother people are being genuine or not.
Nobody else seems to be confused, I think it's just a excuse to do nothing and troll your way to end game. It's Day 2 and we hit scum. Go read nom and tell us who you think his buddies are.

How about you do it yourself since I'm apparently incompetent.

Titus · Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:42 am

In post 1411, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1409, Xlos wrote:today I’ll vote Toog if both DGB and Titus vote A50 tomorrow.
100% willing to commit to this.

I'm in if Toog flips town.

Titus · Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:44 am

In post 1410, DrippingGoofball wrote:Scum will claim to vig me tonight and Toog will claim to have roleblocked a townie and frame that townie as scum.

Toog claimed out of shots.

Galron · Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:04 am

In post 1411, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1409, Xlos wrote:today I’ll vote Toog if both DGB and Titus vote A50 tomorrow.
100% willing to commit to this.

In post 1414, Titus wrote:
In post 1411, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1409, Xlos wrote:today I’ll vote Toog if both DGB and Titus vote A50 tomorrow.
100% willing to commit to this.
I'm in if Toog flips town.

I don't like this. Why flip A50 if toog flips green? A50's been saying toog is town. That doesn't make sense.

Galron · Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:05 am

In post 1416, Galron wrote:
In post 1411, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1409, Xlos wrote:today I’ll vote Toog if both DGB and Titus vote A50 tomorrow.
100% willing to commit to this.

In post 1414, Titus wrote:
In post 1411, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1409, Xlos wrote:today I’ll vote Toog if both DGB and Titus vote A50 tomorrow.
100% willing to commit to this.
I'm in if Toog flips town.
I don't like this. Why flip A50 if toog flips green? A50's been saying toog is town. That doesn't make sense.

Actually, DGB, you unconditionally said you'd vote A50. Why?

Galron · Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:09 am

In post 1406, MathBlade wrote:If DGB is scum then I think it breaks the game wide open but if DGB is town it gives a solid direction of where to go next.

Pray tell, what is that solid direction? You kill a tunneling player and then what?

Titus · Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:25 am

In post 1416, Galron wrote:
In post 1411, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1409, Xlos wrote:today I’ll vote Toog if both DGB and Titus vote A50 tomorrow.
100% willing to commit to this.

In post 1414, Titus wrote:
In post 1411, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1409, Xlos wrote:today I’ll vote Toog if both DGB and Titus vote A50 tomorrow.
100% willing to commit to this.
I'm in if Toog flips town.
I don't like this. Why flip A50 if toog flips green? A50's been saying toog is town. That doesn't make sense.

If toog is scum my strategy is correct so I should follow that. If it's wrong then I should follow the opposing wagon to check its accuracy

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:14 am

In post 1415, Titus wrote:
In post 1410, DrippingGoofball wrote:Scum will claim to vig me tonight and Toog will claim to have roleblocked a townie and frame that townie as scum.
Toog claimed out of shots.

He can say he lied about the number of shots.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:18 am

In post 1415, Titus wrote:
In post 1410, DrippingGoofball wrote:Scum will claim to vig me tonight and Toog will claim to have roleblocked a townie and frame that townie as scum.
Toog claimed out of shots.

In post 1417, Galron wrote:
In post 1416, Galron wrote:
In post 1411, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1409, Xlos wrote:today I’ll vote Toog if both DGB and Titus vote A50 tomorrow.
100% willing to commit to this.

In post 1414, Titus wrote:
In post 1411, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1409, Xlos wrote:today I’ll vote Toog if both DGB and Titus vote A50 tomorrow.
100% willing to commit to this.
I'm in if Toog flips town.
I don't like this. Why flip A50 if toog flips green? A50's been saying toog is town. That doesn't make sense.
Actually, DGB, you unconditionally said you'd vote A50. Why?

MB made a case that A50 is capable of townie sounding BS as scum.

The case is nowhere near as solid as Toog being lying scum.

Toogeloo · Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:56 am

You flip me me today and A50 tomorrow, town loses this game. 10%

Toogeloo · Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:56 am

100%*

Titus · Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:57 am

In post 1420, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1415, Titus wrote:
In post 1410, DrippingGoofball wrote:Scum will claim to vig me tonight and Toog will claim to have roleblocked a townie and frame that townie as scum.
Toog claimed out of shots.
He can say he lied about the number of shots.

True but that's a scumclaim given what we have seen flipped.