Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ctrl + f is just searching for the name in the ISO

[Amy Dunne]

Pooky, why does Chara look scummy?

[Amy Dunne]

ctrl + f is just searching for the name in the ISO

I just click on activity overview.

[Amy Dunne]

I’m down with either Robert or Nakata. I think Flea could be town. Faer second guessing and evaluating and fe-evaluating pings possibly townie.

[Amy Dunne]

In Royalty, fae just hardpushed faer bad reads and never tried to re-evaluate anything. I dislike Flea wagon.

[Tanner]

Faer second guessing and evaluating and fe-evaluating pings possibly townie.

what are you referring to here?

[Amy Dunne]

Faer second guessing and evaluating and fe-evaluating pings possibly townie.

what are you referring to here?

Faer mech analysis. Fae keeps questioning and re-evaluating faer conclusions based on that.

[Tanner]

maybe i'm a bit biased, but... where?

[Amy Dunne]

hmm... ok I'm not conf by yang. i had a theory, it didn't pan out.

Actually further digging has just ully disproven the yang compulsive liar theory I had.

@Tanner

[Ircher]

I don't put much alignment-stock into stuff like that, and I don't think you should either.

[Amy Dunne]

@mod, can we please get an updated VC?

[Amy Dunne]

I don't put much alignment-stock into stuff like that, and I don't think you should either.

Why not? I don’t recall Flea doing anything like that in Royalty.

I certainly wouldn’t lim fae over Robert or Nakata, since fae is actually doing something.

[Ircher]

Because it's still mechanics spec, and it's clear to me that fae isn't doing much besides mechanics spec. In other words, it feels like fae is using mechanics as a smokescreen to hide faer lack of scumhunting.

[Ircher]

Robert >>> Flea > Nakata >>> Everyone else is my current elim preferences.

[Amy Dunne]

Meh, maybe he's town but I feel like the whole claim and "look, I'm bad" is horrible even for bad town.

He really isn't. I've player with Robert a couple of times.

What about this post?

[Ircher]

Unless fae expands, it seems more like posturing than scumhunting to me. "Reads" like that are easy to hand out.

[Amy Dunne]

Unless fae expands, it seems more like posturing than scumhunting to me. "Reads" like that are easy to hand out.

Maybe, I just think both Robert and Nakata are scumier.

So I’m Robert > Nakata > Flea > everyone else.

[Chara]

i've seen scum Flea recently who pretty much turned around my scumread on faer via what looked like legit hunting. if Flea didn't do that in Royalty i think it's evidence faer scumgame doesn't always look the same. like a lot of players.

[Flea The Magician]

Because it's still mechanics spec, and it's clear to me that fae isn't doing much besides mechanics spec. In other words, it feels like fae is using mechanics as a smokescreen to hide faer lack of scumhunting.

I'm not shy about my lack of scumhunting here.

I'm trying to prod and poke based on information I have.

In Royalty, I knew at least part of the mechanics, and my wincon was based on my team not being eliminated.

[clidd]

Because he's scum tming a townread on me ^

Who do you think is scummier Nakata or Robert? I think that entrance was really scummy.

Maybe it’s Infinty/Nakata/Robert?

They're both scummy, but Robert is the weird kind and Nakata is the "tried to look towny but ended up being scummy" type. The latter seems more likely to be scum imo.

[clidd]

But I wouldn't mind having Robert as an elim too.

[Morning Tweet]

i got irritated w this game so i spent yesterday grinding in wow, anyways

i don’t think the way infinity reacted with nakata is inherently clearing? infinity was under pressure early for feeling “off” and there weren’t many times where that sort of passive pressure relented on her. if she wasn’t feeling this game (which i believe is entirely due to her alignment) but she doesn’t want to throw, i think that her pushing one partner who’s being wagoned while defending the other makes sense?

it’s way easier when you’re unsure to point out things that you actually see as scummy because you KNOW they’re scummy, and defending the wagon you’re potentially competing against (ircher) is something people don’t think scum would do on a shallow level of play. it’s a good way to get towncred on both fronts that was in short stock for infinity this game because she didn’t have the time/energy to put it making more nuanced reads on other people. (and imo her most nuanced read WAS nakata). so i’m leaning towards it being damning rather than clearing. it’s hard to tell though since nakata ghosted this game so if we get a rep they can... at least post something?

also lol at infinity trying to pocket me in retrospect

That's fair. im gonna review that more when i have time -- but if Infy was feeling like she was on an off game the whole time, then you're right. Although i do think Nakata almost got killed. And TMIing Nakata could be true, that's also fair it's easier to scumread scum as scum

also yeah lol

flea being scum is possible. but what was the scumteam’s plan if it’s like, fae + infinity + something like robert or nakata? fae hasn’t done much on the side of like... solving in a game sense, mechanically sure. like there are weird votes and tunnels and vote parking and just a lack of substance which i guess if you have a team like the suggested you don’t have a lot of sway this game and hope you... survive by being “creative town” as someone earlier said, marching to the beat of your own drum because what scum would do that lol

but. atp i feel that’d be signing your teams deathwish bc of the like, strong townreads that have formed? you can’t survive thru a poe of like, me/tanner/amy or something going to endgame (sorry ircher but i think between the bomb and a nk you might be going down) the second tier of this becomes like mt/pooky/chara to work with? like there’s not really room for the bottom poe unless they kick it into gear and even if fleas been busy i feel fae... could have done that which uh. hm. i guess if flea ever does flip scum after we do like, robert (srry still don’t believe the vig claim) + nakata it suggests a Deepwoof but we’d realize that by that point anyways so w/e

I think their plan was to pray, probably.. scum doesn't always have a plan. It would be pretty much hoping. And yeah if town ends up townreading each other it's a loss, but sometimes they don't

[Morning Tweet]

also, fwiw i still don’t see value in solving what a criminal is by virtue of my own reads meaning it doesn’t make sense, and also playing 20 questions to solve the game seems like incredibly bad setup design. i also just don’t find it that engaging as a mechanique even if it is truthful and could spend hours regardless spinning reasons why the info is probably useless based off of yin/yang being opposites but then i’m just being pedantic

i find it really entertaining as a logic puzzle and im holding out hope knowing who the criminals are is helpful later in the game. But i am not altering my reads with them.

ok I reached 94 of 99 before passing out last night and ye gods am I suffering today.

Please tell me we're eliminating Robert? Their AtE is beyond a joke at this point.

haha... yeah we sure are... aha

im sorry ydrasse

he said he’d let mt leash him or w/e but grain of salt

I’m starting to think he could be scum, that unwarrented excessive hostility and unwillingness to engage and work with others and rather than take responsibility for the reactions he’s getting - he’s blaming it on us being some kind of clicque, rather than acknowledging that he’s going out of his way to antagonize people.

If he’s scum along with Infinity, I’m guessing scum perhaps has some pretty difficult wincon, because both seem incredibly unhappy to be in this game.

It also really can’t be a lot if fun to be Ircher here either, I’d imagine.

That’s what bothering me about both Robert and Nakata. Neither are seeming to gaf what anyone else tells them in this game.

I find it believable that Robert would not like this game because most of the other players are more familiar with each other.

That's actually a really good theory... scum was very demoralized in the last silent star due to game mechanics. Maybe it happened again.

[Morning Tweet]

Okay, nevermind, I guess I'm on my own. Sorry for this barrage of questions flea feel free to answer or not answer any of them

@

Flea

, why do you think it's the best use of our day two elimination to kill Tanner solely to test out the criminal thing? Additionally, why Tanner over Chara who is confirmed in the same way?

Is it really worth it to sacrifice Tanner and our D2 to *MAYBE* get information? Additionally, you can see that the majority of the game isn't using the criminal system to determine votes, why are you making it lock your vote onto Tanner permanently? And why didn't you do this D1 -- what changed today?

Now i'm not really convinced Flea is scum but i suppose im struggling to understand faer play this game thus far.

Tanner is a criminal by all given PoE. Chara is not as locked in as Tanner is barring my tinfoil.

I would've really wanted to do it D1, but people were happy to dismiss Yin as nothing but flavour. Something which has changed drastically today it seems.

As town, we eliminate scum using what tools are available. Silent Star are known for fucky mechanics - and I know Hectic is having input to these answers.

Tanner and Chara are both confirmed criminals -- I worked it out over time, my ISO has a ton of posts for it. Additionally, there are 1-2 criminals within Flea/Nakata/Pooky/Morning/clidd -- and it seems extremely likely 1 is in Flea/nakata.

Nothing has changed today. No one here, including me (who has been the main driver of finding criminals) wants to elim based on this info. What is giving you the impression we're considering limming Tanner?

And yes, but Silent Star also has red herrings -- look no further than the role names in Silent Star Royalty. Additionally, it's not worth killing a townie to learn that "Oh, criminals aren't AI".

[Morning Tweet]

End of 95, my solve sits at Robert, Tweetie, Tanner.

raise eyebrow

You're not going to stop engaging with me because you scumread me, right

Flea should be the next elimination. Fae is part of an informed minority. I'm afraid fae wants banish me back to the demon world.

I just got fucking conftown'd by Yang, amazing. I'll cover this later.

I think it's pretty clear that Yang doesn't know who the baddies are from her play. She has also said this herself at one point

Also....................... Flea

Yang has done this same thing to Tanner

Is Tanner confirm town?