Newbie 2072: All Guns Blazing!! - Ended

[alstroemerial]

I have thoughts on Zyla implications of a N_M flip as well, but Luke, do you mean by 508 that you want to wait for Zyla to answer first, or is that fair game for me?

[Pavowski]

Hey hey I know I was the first Portia vote on this wagon and I'm glad people are following me but can no one else vote Portia until either he picks up the prod or gets replaced? I don't want this to move too fast before he can say anything.

Agree wholeheartedly, Umlaut's vote makes Portia e-2 by my count

[Lukewarm]

Alstro, you were pretty close.

I was gonna say that him being scum would be +scum for you, and him being town would be +town for you.

I wanted to wait to see your response, because if you said you were against flipping Not_Mafia town, then it would have moved it from +scum to ++scum

[ArcAngel9]

Vote Count 1-9

Portia :

alstroemerial, Pavowski, Umlaut (E-2)

Pavowski :

alstroemerial :

Zyla :

marcistar,

Lukewarm :

Val89,

Val89 :

Portia, ,

Not_Mafia :

Lukewarm,

Umlaut :

Not_Mafia,

marcistar :

Not Voting

: Zyla

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 16, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-16 12:50:00)

Mod Notes:

Portia has been prodded.
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[ArcAngel9]

Portia has received his second prod. He must post in 24 hours to avoid the final prod.

[Lukewarm]

Seeing as how the Zyla wagon appears to have relocated to a Portia wagon -- and Portia appears to have flaked -- it feels like we are gonna be in a holding pattern until whenever Portia gets replaced.

So, the next 24 hours of this game feel like they are getting ready to be pretty :: ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz

[Lukewarm]

@Marci, why are you still voting Zyla?

I have been asking pretty nicely for people to move to new pastures

[Val89]

I guess I misunderstood the application of the activity rules:

If you receive a prod, you will have 24 hours to post in the game thread. If you do not respond to your prod within 24 hours, you will be replaced. Additionally, if I have to prod you three times, the third prod will be an automatic replacement.

I took that to mean your slot would be up for replacement 24 hours after the first prod, if you didn't post; not that you would move on to a second prod.

If, as it appears, you only get replaced after the "final prod", we are looking at potentially 48 hours before anything moves again, not 24 as you suggested Lukewarm, right?

[Lukewarm]

idk, I am used to slots being replaced at this point, tbh.

But, if ArcAngel is letting Portia go through all of the prods, the 3rd prod comes with "an automatic replacement" -- So, I guess I assumed ArchAngel would start looking for a replacement in 24 hours - right when she gave out the 3rd prod. I could be wrong tho

[Lukewarm]

I will say that the way you read the rules is what I have seen used in other games, and you should probably expect prods/replacements to be handled that way in other games

[ArcAngel9]

idk, I am used to slots being replaced at this point, tbh.

But, if ArcAngel is letting Portia go through all of the prods, the 3rd prod comes with "an automatic replacement" -- So, I guess I assumed ArchAngel would start looking for a replacement in 24 hours - right when she gave out the 3rd prod. I could be wrong tho

You're right. He will be automatically replaced if he failed to post within the next 24 hours cycle from the time he was prodded. I will start looking for replacements post that.

[Pavowski]

[Pavowski]

Well that didn't work.

Anyway, if Portia is getting replaced I'll move my vote until we hear from the slot

Marci, I see you asking lots of questions but I'm not sure where you stand on a lot of this. I see your reads list in 191 where you were mostly null on a lot of this, and based on content in between it seems like, thanks to Luke/Val, you are reading Val scummier than you did in 191. Got any updated takes?

[Umlaut]

Really skittish town here being afraid of an E-2.

Portia flaking only makes that slot a better elim candidate imo. Newb scum losing interest and disappearing is a tale as old as Mafia.

[Lukewarm]

The more I think about 455, and Not_Mafia's response, the more I want to yeet there tbh

[alstroemerial]

It could be AI but it just feels like a jerk move to go from wagon to elim without the person in question here. I am starting to get a little nervous about the approaching deadline, though. Figure I might as well also give advance notice that I'll be

V/LA Friday through Monday (7/16-19)

-- I should be able to check in every day, just not at the same level as I have been. With the pace that this thread has been moving lately, I'm not too worried.

Hey Umlaut, since you're around, mind answering this? Also, is the below take in 309 still up to date?

Strong TR on Lukewarm still.
Some degree of TR on all of {marcistar, alstroemerial, Pavowski}.

Gives me an elim pool of {Val98, Not_Mafia, Zyla, Portia}.

NM has done fuck-all but I kind of expect that from him. Would not object to an elim there but in my experience we either do it or don't, trying to use votes to pressure him is useless.

Umlaut:

You mention in a later post that this "could" be TvT, but which do you think is more likely? In this post you have Val in your elim pool.

[Umlaut]

I've updated saying I don't want to vote Val today. I feel pretty good about calling Luke town so this question is really just "do you think Val is scum or not?" to which I say I really have no idea, I've fluctuated back and forth on that in my head quite a few times.

[marcistar]

@Marci, why are you still voting Zyla?

I have been asking pretty nicely for people to move to new pastures

nothings really convinced me yet, im not satisfied with just you saying you feel shes town i want some reasons
(also i was lowkey waiting for portia to come back in before deciding if i would be comfortable voting there, but at this point its looking likes hes just gonna get replaced)

ill unvote and wait for the portia replacement stuff to happen before deciding tho
UNVOTE:

Marci, I see you asking lots of questions but I'm not sure where you stand on a lot of this. I see your reads list in 191 where you were mostly null on a lot of this, and based on content in between it seems like, thanks to Luke/Val, you are reading Val scummier than you did in 191. Got any updated takes?

alot of its still at nulls tbh, im trying my best to figure this out but >.< its so hard for me to read thru the big posts luke/val make

Marcis very updated and cool readslist

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Portia

- null. Originally, I thought Portia was very town seeming, but now that hes gone afk it just doesnt paint him in the best light. > looking back on his posts with this in mind, nothing really seems to make me think "yes, he's 100% town" anymore.

Pavowski

- (town lean). Before i was unsure on you, but nothing really stands out as scummy, i think u've been consistent.

alstroemerial

- town. I like alstroemerials posts alot, i think theyre still trying their best. seems consistent as well.

Zyla

- null. Still same level of idk.

Lukewarm

- I have no idea what to think about luke still, as the 1v1 kept repeating itself though, I starting seeing his points a bit more than i saw before. The confidence and aggression still sort of shocks me, but im putting a

slight townlean

on him for now. Not the most confident in reading him this game sadly

Val89

- slight scum read. I thought val was townie originally, but I remember on a page (i forgot which page exactly) he seemed pretty rude to a couple people who asked him for reads. Thats what mainly effected my read on him to such an extent (: He also seems a bit frustrated, but keeps dragging luke back into more arguments (the arguments then hinder the game state i think..)

Not_Mafia

- null (slight scum lean). I think he usually contributes a tiny bit more so his activity here feels weird. Nothings really making me think hes town rn.

Umlaut

- slight town lean. {i think he said hes moving rn..? so hes a bit busy and im keeping that in mind while deciding what i think of him} Hes given some of his thoughts that i wouldn't have thought of before, so i think hes just putting things out there when he thinks it, without worrying too much > seems like townie behavior.

[ArcAngel9]

Portia has been force replaced. Looking for a replacement.
Deadline is paused until a replacement is found.

[ArcAngel9]

Zyla have been prodded

[Pavowski]

UNVOTE: portia

[Pavowski]

I will supplement that to say that I was trending downward on the slot -- the agro comments and the drunkposting look way worse in the context of giving up and walking away imo -- but will give a replacement the benefit of the doubt

[Zyla]

Yeah, and with 2 days or so left after they come in, it's not gonna be easy to read them before the end of day

For me that leaves Val, NM, and
VOTE: Umlaut
I'm just kind of having trouble seeing them actually trying to sort people

[Lukewarm]

Zyla...........

[Lukewarm]

I hope our replacement shows up soon, so that they can re-jump start the thread.

I slow down my posting, and the thread drops to a crawl :/