MT 2219: The Battle of Calculasia - Endgame

[Ircher]

Day 3 VC #10

DrippingGoofball (2): Jake the Wolfie (1402), Toogeloo (1433)
Xlos (2): Almost50 (1133), Galron (1269)
Almost50 (0):
Jake the Wolfie (0):
Titus (0):

Toogeloo (4) (F-1): DrippingGoofball (1074), Titus (1075), Xlos (1426), MathBlade (1437)

Not Voting (1): WhemeStar

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to fade a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end no earlier than Thursday, July 8, 2021 9:45:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-07-08 21:45:00).
This phase will end no later than Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:45 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-07-14 21:45:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, please inform me each week.
2: Please let me know if you have a different pronoun preference than listed below.
3: The moderator will be V/LA in late July. Tentative dates are July 25 to July 28.

Pronoun Key

1: DrippingGoofball : It
3: Xlos : He/him
4: Almost50 : He/him
5: Jake the Wolfie : Any
6: Galron : He/him
7: MathBlade : He/him
9: Titus : She/her
10: WhemeStar : He/him
12: Toogeloo : They/them

[MathBlade]

MathBlade, I'm town. Just beware when someone claims to have vig'ed me, and there is no other NK. Promise?

Promise. I've seen quite a few scum gambits in my day and so have a few players here. I don't think anyone here would fall for that. Titus if town wouldn't and neither would A50 for sure.

If Toog is town then I'm probably dead just respect my PoE if scum kill me please. Promise?

It does but I have my own theory as to why Murdercat was killed. There's a certain post I found looking in Murdercat's iso that I think he died for. I accept that looks bad for me but I replace into slots like double replaces as town and scum so meh. It is what it is. I have my scum points I just gotta work to demonstrate I'm town.

[MathBlade]

Spoiler: Claim posts

That seems like not a good thing to say before someone claims it but ok

by the way if we could end days with a prime number of pages that would be very great thank you

Is this the post you're talking about?

Yeah
Like somehow this got ignored but T3's post didn't
Makes me feel weird in a way

I tend to not want to elaborate on claim related things

(Town would have backed off once they realized why I put Umlaut on the list by mistake)

I'm not backing off because I think choosing the first three people who posted is a really easy way to fake reads

Where in here is it implied that's why I originally voted you?

I voted you because your first statement sounded like you were trying to make fake content. If you weren't I think you were more likely to explain the reasoning for your claim. The fact that you didn't bother to check if umlaut had posted anything while trying make it seem like your reads were based on content when referring to nom made it worse.

There is no way this wagon on me is real, these votes are awful and trying to run me up to a claim is terrible

My guess is that based on Murdercat's ISO Murdercat slipped he was a PR of some kind. VT's don't heavily worry about being put to a claim at L -1. My guess is that scum though to kill him soon as 213 dropped.

[DrippingGoofball]

What's the POE, MathBlade?

I don't see how scum would read a PR soft from the above posts.

[MathBlade]

What's the POE, MathBlade?

I don't see how scum would read a PR soft from the above posts.

That there's a scum in you, A50, Toog, and Wheme. (Wheme recently added when he confirmed the neighbor bit)

It's the mannerisms. If you're a vt, sure you're worried about claims but as a town power role you have to taper that worry. A VT doesn't say "This is a horrible wagon and it's trying to get me to claim." A VT says something like "This is a horrible wagon and so and so is terrible for hopping on". It's a subtle nuance but it's there. Then again I'm really good at identifying TPRs as scum (see Team Mafia the large theme when I identified all the PRs for OkaPoka although I don't know if the discord is public). And as a VT it's ideal to try to play the opposite way. Like you're some kind of super important PR that screws over scum but you're actually just a VT so you eat a bullet.

[MathBlade]

Well I honestly hope you're eliminated because I don't think you're town, your reason was just sooo baaaad.

Contrast this with Flea's response. It's a generic "your reason was just soooo bad". It doesn't have a fear of PR at all in it.

[DrippingGoofball]

I see it now, but whether the scum saw that or the list of suspected players, I guess we'll have to wait until end game to find out.

[Titus]

probably Titus w/ A50 since she's been much more of a sheep than usual then "rah rah I am Titus god here me these are the scummy scums"

You're making a caricature out of both my town game and my scumgame.

[MathBlade]

Yes it’s a caricature but it’s the easiest way I can think of to explain what I find missing.

It’s not that you’re not trying the effort is there and so I stick with the quotes and the tone to explain my thoughts. It’s not a caricature that’s insulting or misrepresenting it’s merely a descriptive one. Sort of like your avatar is a caricature of Carmen Sandiego. No one believes anyone looks like that IRL but the image is illustrative enough to get the point. You’re a spitfire and give opinions as town and more “agreeable” as scum. That’s the wrong word hence quotes just lacking words.

[Titus]

That's just it though. None of that is true. There was a big debate over whether I am more agreeable as town or less, more sane or less sane. This also happened a bit in the nuclear terrorist game. In neither game did I have strong scumreads, in both I was town. In the terrorist game, I was agreeable. In the Dogs and Cats mafia I wasn't.

Here, someone needs to be agreeable. Too many chefs and not enough voters.

[MathBlade]

I am sorry my memory is a bit foggy what are you talking about how nuclear terrorist game or the other game with a “big debate” (there is no identifier mentioned). Was Dogs and Cats Mafia a scum or town game?

I want to look them up after I finish pathfinder tonight for a quick skim.

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: toog

eh fck it

[Almost50]

@A50, how confident is your push on Xlos, and what's your input in a possible DGB lim?

Frankly, I don't know why DGB would bus nom in that situation. I don't see Scum!DGB here at all.

As for Xlos, I am confident but it's not like I have access to the mod PT. It's between him, Wheme, Jake & Mathblade (roughly in that order)

[Almost50]

This isnt really working. Everyone is too committed to their reads. Ill offer a trade: today I’ll vote Toog if both DGB and Titus vote A50 tomorrow

HOWEVER; if this isn't Scum then it's the worst Town player ever! This is literally lining up 2 mislims, and the fact he's talking to Titus/DGB confirms they are both Town if/when Xlos flips red.

[Almost50]

I mean, scum don't need to convince their scum buddy to vote with them in public. That's what the Scum PT is for.

[Almost50]

You flip me me today and A50 tomorrow, town loses this game. 10%

This typo made me laugh out loud

I'll be sad if I'm wrong about A50, but I'm willing to take the risk here. We might even get a free point for listening to DGB today VOTE: Toogeloo

@EVERYONE:

Stop being dumb. This is SCUM trying to evade the axe by killing a townie and lining up another mislim. I'll self-vote tomorrow if we flip Xlos today and he flips Town.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Toog was hammered, m8.

[Almost50]

Idk should I just hammer

Not if you're Town. Vote Xlos if you are.

[Almost50]

BOTH SCUM are in Xlos/Math/Wheme. I PROMISE.

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: toog

eh fck it

a50 did you miss this vote that happened just before your posts

[Titus]

BOTH SCUM are in Xlos/Math/Wheme. I PROMISE.

Why those three?

[Titus]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=86449 - Town in Terrorist game
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=86525 - Town in Dogs and Cats mafia

Both these had debates on me being town or scum re: meta.

[Toogeloo]

Oh no, you got me. GG, well played town!

[Ircher]

Day 3 VC #11 (FINAL)

DrippingGoofball (2): Jake the Wolfie (1402), Toogeloo (1433)
Xlos (2): Almost50 (1133), Galron (1269)
Almost50 (0):
Jake the Wolfie (0):
Titus (0):

Toogeloo (5) (HAMMER @ 1461): DrippingGoofball (1074), Titus (1075), Xlos (1426), MathBlade (1437), WhemeStar (1461)

Not Voting (0):

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to fade a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end no earlier than Thursday, July 8, 2021 9:45:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-07-08 21:45:00).
This phase will end no later than Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:45 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-07-14 21:45:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, please inform me each week.
2: Please let me know if you have a different pronoun preference than listed below.
3: The moderator will be V/LA in late July. Tentative dates are July 25 to July 28.

Pronoun Key

1: DrippingGoofball : It
3: Xlos : He/him
4: Almost50 : He/him
5: Jake the Wolfie : Any
6: Galron : He/him
7: MathBlade : He/him
9: Titus : She/her
10: WhemeStar : He/him
12: Toogeloo : They/them

[Ircher]

Night 3 begins:

Fully refreshed from the party, each of you begins discussing fervently. Very quickly, another hour passes. A chime outside begins to sound signaling that it is a quarter til two. At last, silence descends once more upon the group of you.

Noticing everyone's stares, Toogeloo starts panicking. "Surely you jest! How could you suspect me? Am I not the prime example of how intuition leads one astray?" they plead. Sadly, their words fall on deaf ears. One of you steps forward and takes out the book once more. They turn to page 141421356 and look for the name Toogeloo. Upon finding it, they cross it out with a black marker. Toogeloo's body begins to disappear; after a while, they disappear completely and in their place is a small index card. One of you reaches forth, reads it, and relays the news. All of you decide to take another fifteen minute break before resuming the hunt.

Toogeloo, the

Product Rule

(effective role: Councillor of Calculasia 2-Shot Roleblocker), fades into obscurity Day 3.

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome, Toogeloo, to Mini Theme {#}: Battle of Calculasia!
You are the

Product Rule

!

The product rule is one of the major rules for finding the derivative of a function. Contrary to one's initial intuition, the formula for the derivative of a product is not simply the product of the derivatives.

Abilities:

1.

Tricky Computation

: Though not a complicated rule, it catches many novices in calculus by surprise to learn that the derivative of a product is not the product of the derivatives. As a result, twice per game at night, you may target a player. You will attempt to prevent them from acting.
2. Effectively, you are a

2-Shot Roleblocker

.
3. You win when all threats to the Council of Calculasia are eliminated and at least one Councillor is still alive.

Confirm by pm'ing me your alignment, flavor name, effective role, and any partners you may have.

Night 3 ends on Thursday, July 15 10:15 AM EDT or in (expired on 2021-07-15 10:15:00).
Night actions are due at least 15 minutes before then.

If everyone living requests fast night, I will grant it to the best of my ability.