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[ssbm_Kyouko]

Can someone explain the nom wagon because I don't get it at all?

read his iso n it feels like he lost something he originally had

he came in kinda bold now it feels like he is deflated

he wanted dwlee to prove himself n vote me n when he did he said he was mafia

So I got nom and osuka mixed up. There are points where rathe is pushing osuka but it doesnt come to anything early on in the game. But here is the culmination of rathe's push on nomnomnom, who later flipped a pretty strong PR. Just before this nom "takes a reset" and rereads the game and suddenly shifts his suspicions off of Rathe. If they were scum together this is an easy time for scum!rathe to ease off of nom, but he doesnt. The push continues here. Pretty sure as you continue to read the iso of rathe, osuka, and nom, switching from non to vax at the replace, Rathe is consistent in pushing both of them. That's what I recall from the reread I did about a week or two ago before Rathe replaced out. Game's been dragging a bit since, but I still think my previous poe is good here.

T3 (No PT)
Save The Dragons (No PT)
ChaosOmega
Titus

So Chaos or Titus are both good today in my book. If they're both town I'd reconsider Gamma/Rathe

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Yeetus
VOTE: Titus

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Titus

[Dwlee99]

Gamma what made you say you don't like my interaction -> me being a high town read?

[VFP]

maybe osuka n nomnomnom r mafia i dont know about dwlee could be but not sure anymore

I still don't know why you see scum!osuka here
Also i saw you don't want to vote Kyouko and I don't know why, care to elaborate on that

Does Nom protect 1 scum buddy while trying to push another?

[Dwlee99]

One thought is that nom saying I was scum for voting Rathe is kind of chainsawy, which could indicate partners. I could also just see Osuka/Nom(Vax) aggressively distancing. I noticed Vax and Osuka getting into a little read debate at one point.

[Dragon of the West]

ok now before i hammer who should i target?

assuming youre not full of shit, rathe

[Dwlee99]

Okay so are we still going with killing rathe here. I'm gonna try to look for Rathe crumbing the PT cop result.

[Dragon of the West]

VOTE: anya

I dont really need an answer, as I already have it.

anya!town doesnt say "they're trying to convince me now that they're a wolf and i should vote for them"

It comes off as knowing ssmb_kyko cant be a wolf. (trying to CONVINCE)

anya!town WOULD SAY "ssmb keeps saying they are a wolf."

this is a stretch and really it reeks of scum trying to justify jumping on a wagon

[Dragon of the West]

Okay so are we still going with killing rathe here. I'm gonna try to look for Rathe crumbing the PT cop result.

If you find something let me know. I combed through Rathe's ISO when gamma first claimed and found nothing

[Dwlee99]

All I found so far is Rathe saying StD is "okay."

[Dwlee99]

Kyo why is Andres out of your PoE?

[VFP]

Spoiler: Nero

honestly, I'm just kinda sick of the day phase at this point. I'd be willing to vote any of

Dragon of the West
Rathe
Andresvmb
nomnomnom
DrippingGoofball
Titus
petapan




kinda just want to lynch the Derek12 so this game doesn't stall out b/c no one will replace in

I'll be pretty stoked if nom flips scum and maybe

I’m trying to decide which one of you is the Scum hiding behind the bad push

just wanted to leave this here

everyone is already scum reading you Titus.

DOTW, Andre, Dunn are barely playing and the derek slot is still empty

Weird grouping of 3 when I've been just as active if not more active than T3 and Kyo. Not everyone can post 50 times a day

The data:

Dragon of the West

Jun 01, 10:11pm Jun 07, 11:10pm 0 days 0 hours

37

T3

May 31, 08:26am Jun 07, 09:21pm 0 days 1 hour

34

ssbm_Kyouko

May 31, 04:41pm Jun 07, 04:02pm 0 days 7 hours

30

Anya

May 31, 09:51am Jun 06, 11:20pm 0 days 23 hours

21

Andresvmb

May 31, 02:41pm Jun 06, 04:19pm 1 day 6 hours

21

Dunnstral

May 31, 04:00am Jun 07, 05:15am 0 days 18 hours

9

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T3, Anya

and

Kyouko

don't make it in Nero's list. why

Nero's list isn't based in reason.

oh noes the scum team is trying to shade me for having a vibe. Also if we are going solely on post count then both Dunn and Andre are still at the very bottom activity-wise. So I don't see how my post is all that off. Furthermore, this game has been open for a week and I feel like Andre has done nothing useful. Also @ the time I wrote that post DOTW only had 29 posts so you are being pretty dishonest. And like he's done nothing but tunnel Peta this whole game so...

t3 is town and if you think anya and ssbm are masons I have no clue why you'd care if I left them out for obvious reasons.

I honestly don't see why we aren't lynching Titus today other than DW and VFP not wanting to do her today but I think she's pretty obviously scum.

titus wagon is dead.

Dunn prob ends up being the days lynch and eh fine

im still investigating andre but im changing my vig target to DGB

but it's not like I DON'T want DGB dead. I think that theoretically DGB could just be really bad town and there are others that I think could be scum with Titus and I think we get more out of a Titus lynch than a Titus vig. And it's not like I'm 1 shot so...

why what?

Why titus?

b/c I feel it in my gut.

its mainly

Why does a bad push=scum? That's kinda a fallacy guy.

Why is nom town?

Why do you acknowledge this yet try to force me into a conclusion on your play?

like this post is pretty nonsensical.

and then when I asked how I was trying to "force her into a conclusion" and got no response I asked her again later and I got.

We went over that already.

She's blatantly lying and being dismissive and trying to avoid confrontation.

I could point out some other bad posts but it's mainly this.

is Dunn posting in other games but avoiding this one NAI or suspicious

so is andre

Nero being killed still suggests Titus or Andre here.
I'm currently working but I want to go through these better after work.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma what made you say you don't like my interaction -> me being a high town read?

I still think you’re town, you’re just the lowest townread following that interaction + me accepting a stall pointed towards you

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Kyo why is Andres out of your PoE?

I faked a guilty on him in mini 2213 because I was heavily scumreading him for playing the same there as he has been here. Like he was very inactive, when he did post he had only a little to say until he was put under pressure, and he made frequent promises he would catch up, but didn't always follow through. It feels the same to me here.

[Dwlee99]

Gamma what made you say you don't like my interaction -> me being a high town read?

I still think you’re town, you’re just the lowest townread following that interaction + me accepting a stall pointed towards you

I still don't understand what you mean by the stall.

Kyo why is Andres out of your PoE?

I faked a guilty on him in mini 2213 because I was heavily scumreading him for playing the same there as he has been here. Like he was very inactive, when he did post he had only a little to say until he was put under pressure, and he made frequent promises he would catch up, but didn't always follow through. It feels the same to me here.

I feel like this is something very easy to fake or to not be alignment indicative.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

One thought is that nom saying I was scum for voting Rathe is kind of chainsawy, which could indicate partners. I could also just see Osuka/Nom(Vax) aggressively distancing. I noticed Vax and Osuka getting into a little read debate at one point.

As easily as it could be chainsawing if you put that situation in a vacuum and ignore the rest of rathe/nomslot interactions, in the same vacuum it can just be a trap to set up a reason to SR you. Which is what Nero was saying at the time iirc

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Kyo why is Andres out of your PoE?

I faked a guilty on him in mini 2213 because I was heavily scumreading him for playing the same there as he has been here. Like he was very inactive, when he did post he had only a little to say until he was put under pressure, and he made frequent promises he would catch up, but didn't always follow through. It feels the same to me here.

I feel like this is something very easy to fake or to not be alignment indicative.

With the way I've described it, sure, it sounds that way. But being in both games in close proximity i can feel it better than I can put it to words. Gamma and Dragons were town there when I faked the guilty, Rathe was scum, and T3 was scum, but already dead when that happened. Maybe Gamma/Dragons can comment on Andres better.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Now that I think about it maybe VFP was in the game as well

[VFP]

Now that I think about it maybe VFP was in the game as well

Yeah, although I was dead at that point.

[T3]

I was in that game but I was dead. VOTE: Titu

[Dwlee99]

I still don't see why scum!Titus/Andre leaves gamma alive.

[VFP]

I need to re look but did Gamma give the impression to check either of them? Even if in the pool.

[Titus]

I still don't see why scum!Titus/Andre leaves gamma alive.

Gamma should check me and clear me. :/

[ChaosOmega]

You not dying makes me paranoid the pool is completely wrong.

I feel like that might point to chaosomega maybe

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dotw
VFP
T3 + STD
dwlee
kyouko
titus
chaos
andres

conftown, confident town, probtown via result, unconfident town, null, nullscum, scumread, hard scumread

Feels like you're talking out of both sides of your mouth here. 2 of your top 3 scumreads were in your check pool, but because you didn't die, it makes me look scummy, although they still are scummy, but then if they are scum the pool isn't wrong, and now I'm dizzy.