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Post Post #3900 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:58 am

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btw to clarify what thorHead means, it means using the excuse you read games you weren’t in to justify a half-baked meta read
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Post Post #3901 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:03 am

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FIA WRC started and finished much after this game started.
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Post Post #3902 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:10 am

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In post 3897, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 3838, T3 wrote:Fair. I actually just finished a game as traitor so if you want you can look at that game and se how I treat other players there vs. here.
Hint: he blows his team up in the first post and is very active by T3 standards, because he's constantly crumbing lmao
You weren’t kidding about blowing the team up
Do you have more salient analysis? I’m personally ready to write off T3 as a potential traitor entirely based on the whole of what I saw in that game, but you were actually there so you might know something better than I do
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Post Post #3903 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:18 am

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I was in the game too...
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Post Post #3904 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:23 am

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Kyouko was T3’s partner so I feel like his perspective might be more insightful, and you also didn’t provide a comment that was just snark
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Post Post #3905 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:27 am

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Well t3 hard pocketed me that game so I have some thoughts. He fake claimed an investigative role and faked a guilty on his teammate to do so though so I'm not sure how applicable that experience is to this game.
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Post Post #3906 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:29 am

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Would you like to share, then?
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Post Post #3907 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:36 am

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That game I felt like t3 got me to believe in him by softechoing my thoughts, calling me obvtown, etc. Like by fake mind melding with me he convinced me that we must both be working towards the same goal. Turns out we kind of were because he imploded the scum team. BUT, I don't know if that is similar to this game and it's also one of those things where like reasoning matters and intent matters. T3 locking me as town to pocket me vs to solve the game would have to be different in some qualitative way.
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Post Post #3908 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:50 am

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The main concern I have is what motivated T3 to make such a bold play there
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Post Post #3909 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:41 am

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Post Post #3910 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:39 pm

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In post 3893, Dwlee99 wrote:And Gamma not dying could mean like anything. If scum were willing to risk getting checked cause of payout, or if the scum just wasn't in that pool at all. If not in the pool then that suggests the Chaos/Kyo team.

I think mech play is trying to hit scum here because if we do we can get an extra check out of gamma. If 3 scum then we only have one miselim left though.
I don't think your mech analysis is correct. If scum don't shoot Gamma!town they can just shoot at Gamma's "clears" and DotW and force lylo with paranoia on Gamma's slot for living. If Gamma is scum, then he can use his clears as buddying in lylo or to protect a weaker partner.

An extra result gains us nothing.

The mech play is to eliminate Gamma.
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Post Post #3911 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:41 pm

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An extra result into gamma lim if we can afford it is good because if town he could get a guilty.
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Post Post #3912 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:37 pm

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In post 3911, Dwlee99 wrote:An extra result into gamma lim if we can afford it is good because if town he could get a guilty.
By the time Gamma gets that extra result, we'd be in lylo anyway, forcing him to fake a guilty or argue the exact scumteam.
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Post Post #3913 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:42 pm

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We have one miselim assuming three scum. If we get a correct elimination today, no eliminate tomorrow, we then still have a miselimination on Day 6 to verify Gamma's claim by throwing him off a bus.
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Post Post #3914 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:41 pm

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In post 3910, Titus wrote:
In post 3893, Dwlee99 wrote:And Gamma not dying could mean like anything. If scum were willing to risk getting checked cause of payout, or if the scum just wasn't in that pool at all. If not in the pool then that suggests the Chaos/Kyo team.

I think mech play is trying to hit scum here because if we do we can get an extra check out of gamma. If 3 scum then we only have one miselim left though.
I don't think your mech analysis is correct. If scum don't shoot Gamma!town they can just shoot at Gamma's "clears" and DotW and force lylo with paranoia on Gamma's slot for living. If Gamma is scum, then he can use his clears as buddying in lylo or to protect a weaker partner.

An extra result gains us nothing.

The mech play is to eliminate Gamma.
Shooting my clears means that they are clears though
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Post Post #3915 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:32 pm

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In post 3911, Dwlee99 wrote:An extra result into gamma lim if we can afford it is good because if town he could get a guilty.
If you mislim today on not gamma, scum kills me tonight and you go into D5 with 8 people, potentially 3 scum, and no conf clears. You have to assume D5 is melo there. In that scenario you don't get to confirm gamma. You should only do that if you're sure gamma isn't scum
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Post Post #3916 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:09 pm

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In post 3899, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 90, T3 wrote:Nah dwelee is town.
In post 91, T3 wrote:Titus and nero are also town.
In post 135, T3 wrote:osuka is town.
In post 136, T3 wrote:peta I have no idea about.
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If T3 learned from last time, this would potentially be how he crumbs this time? How long was FIA WRC in irl days?
It just ended a couple days ago and lasted like a week or two total at most I feel. Think this one was well underway before it started
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Post Post #3917 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:17 pm

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In post 3904, Gamma Emerald wrote:Kyouko was T3’s partner so I feel like his perspective might be more insightful, and you also didn’t provide a comment that was just snark
Well I knew he was the traitor in his first post and I was still convinced he was a real detective when he guiltied tris and shot him. I'm kinda tilted about that game tbh. I felt boxed in by how obvious his crumbs were and felt there was no leeway to let him flip. Also when Tris TAed Dwlee it made me think he was masons with shrek alongside their greg the egg crumb. I did well enough to push Zyla and defend myself against Taco in that game, but my night play and mechanics were just shit, feel pretty bad about that game in general.
In post 3908, Gamma Emerald wrote:The main concern I have is what motivated T3 to make such a bold play there
If we find that out I think a final answer can be reached
I dont know why he made the play he did there, you'd have to ask him. We never had a PT
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Post Post #3918 (ISO) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:24 pm

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For the record, if Andre doesn't produce before deadline I'm okay with voting there.
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Post Post #3919 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:35 am

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I know I posted a lot of words but I'd like thoughts on my recent analysis of the game in and surrounding ones.
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Post Post #3920 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:25 am

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I thought that because Manatee was pr she couldn't have killed, so I hard bussed for towncred. Then I would have faked an inocent result on kyo, mislim Lucifer or Zyla, mislim Titus meanwhile we're both cleared.
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Post Post #3921 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:26 am

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T3 posting in the wrong game again!

So, when are we expecting Andre back?

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Post Post #3922 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:19 am

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??? not the wrong game.
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Post Post #3923 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:40 am

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Post Post #3924 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:24 am

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In post 3920, T3 wrote:I thought that because Manatee was pr she couldn't have killed, so I hard bussed for towncred. Then I would have faked an inocent result on kyo, mislim Lucifer or Zyla, mislim Titus meanwhile we're both cleared.
I thought this was it. I had manatee kill that night because she already found dwlee could communicate and I assumed shrek was a mason with [someone] and was trying to confirm that dwle
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