In post 944, Vecna wrote: In post 621, Kakeguri Addicts wrote:
Not really. I very much doubt my mind will be changed on this point. Dannflor has to go, preferably sooner rather than later.
I don't care if people want to extend the day to talk a bit more, but people voting elsewhere and starting other wagons are concerning.
Why is that concerning?
I dont think you've made a strong enough argument for scum Dann to be stating that. Like at all.
Bby the time we even had a chance to post in the thread—which was really only a few hours after it opened, mind you—T3 had already slipped up bad enough that they were the designated elimination, I seem to recall a vocal majority saying something along the lines of unvoting to let the day play out more, but the elimination was set, at one point they were at 10/12 votes needed to eliminate. That is to say, there was really no point for us to go in depth on why T3/Dann is scum when everyone had already seemed to figure it out.
You look and see T3 claim Loyal Babysitter, get shut down by another player who claims the mod would not add that role, then have a fit and replace out because their fake claim was dismantled. You go back and look at that sequence of events, and you look at the replace out, and you say that all of it was a "joke", and that Dannflor can be town, and that we need to discuss this more.
The counter-argument for T3 being scum is that his Loyal Babysitter claim which he made when he had 8/12 votes (and intent for a 9th) to eliminate him was a joke he made while town, but that he was still peeved enough to both self vote and replace out.
Yeah... Dann's putting in effort here, but as soon as I saw the above play out, I knew they had to be the elimination today. I was under the impression that the day was even mostly over by the time we had arrived in the thread. That's why it's concerning to see people like you who don't realize that Dannflor is 100% the elimination today, and attempting to start wagons elsewhere. And even thinking that we 'need' to case Dannflor here. I just talked about this for the three-headed deity hydra: It's a failure to think critically and you're not comprehending that game-state. This isn't a smoking bullet for alignment but it does tend to point towards anti-town members, in my experience.
Also, you went right over our
635 in your catchup, where we do indeed talk about why Dannflor needed to be the elimination. we mostly said the same thing we've said here.