Not Quite Normal Multiball (Game Over)

[Vecna]

I didn't know I needed this drama in my life but now it's here and I can't look away.

If Echo is somehow scum and doing this, it feels a lot more like youre aware of something odd that is happening pooks. Gloating in some weird way that he does this much dumb shit and noone bats an eye.

[Kakeguri Addicts]

how do i get negative attention enough that people want to wagon me

play more like you usually do

the issue is I always get consensus townread in multiball LMAO

Shouldn't be a problem this game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I didn't know I needed this drama in my life but now it's here and I can't look away.

If Echo is somehow scum and doing this, it feels a lot more like youre aware of something odd that is happening pooks. Gloating in some weird way that he does this much dumb shit and noone bats an eye.

I love Ydra/Unwnd drama

[Vecna]

man fck u morph

i am willing to vote t3 slot now

lolwut

[Vecna]

pooky is scum I'm pretty sure by the way. if pooky were town, he would've talked a lot more to us.

we are anon but that doesn't stop him in any universe I dont think

-Mister Ocean

That doesn't make sense, and is a weak read at best (*not that I necessarily disagree).

Pooky would engage us more here I think. We are a overall, universal scum read from the reads lists/posts that I've seen(peta, morph?, ka-something, and a vote from t3?)
I think pooky would not agree with that read/would be curious about it because that is his personality.
he would then test us in his fun playful reads but I dont see that here.

-Mister Ocean

I don't object to scumreads of you right now.

I was put off by your post stating that scumreading you would be a scumclaim, or however you put it.

Is that meta-based or if it's purely this-game-based.

I specifically said it was a scum claim for morph(you) and pooky.
I expect better reads from you and I dont think that is unreasonable given your track record.
I said that scum reading us was a scum claim but what I meant was scum reading for long periods of time. I dont expect either to be perfect. this is a game. every player has highs and lows both in games and throughout all their games. however, a scum read that stays from either you or pooky I do believe is a scum claim/werewolf claim.

pooky specifically is someone that is very sensitive to emotions in posts. he is very sensitive to lies and how people are reacting. he loves to playfully test people and is curious like no other player on mafiascum. I believe that he, if town, would be interested in testing us because of how fast we picked up scum reads. and as a scum read that isnt the main scum read, that should add to his curiosity in my opinion because often times scum is in the people that get heat but never get run up. that should pique his interest I think. one could say we have lurked and stayed away from most of the discussion on scummy players. what is there not to be curious about about us?

as for you, your track record tells me that you shouldn't scum read us for long lengths of time because we are town, have no agenda, and are somewhat actively trying to contribute to discussions that are moving this game forward.

-Mister Ocean

Why are you completely spilling the beans on a self-proclaimed read that only works after prolonged exposure?

"here guys, have the playbook to how I will townread you" seems like such a weird post. Especially since you havent gleaned any meaningfull information from it

[Vecna]

I am hirsute.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ia/RolePMs
#49

This seems to check out. Why'd you leave out the "Townie" at the end when claiming your role? It seems to be called Hirsute Townie, whereas Miller is just Miller.

This makes me suspect that perhaps your role said "Hirsute Mafia" and you assumed that it was like the miller and you only claimed the first part.

With how people have started theorizing (tmi) about mafia millers, and now this claim, and the original start post claiming how we shouldnt make assumptions...... this just starts to feel like a setup where the multiball teams both mightve gotten these modifiers to fuck with em or town in general.

[Vecna]

Hey merman!

Im gonna give this to you!

VOTE: pooky

-zman

spicy

[Vecna]

Fun fact!

I feel like pooky is up playing their trolly nature to have a reason to coast through. Its the same play they did in another multiball game, csn i get a BOOM SHAKA BOOM

Much better. Also yes

[Vecna]

"sorry but you cannot use search at this moment. try again later"

eh, what?

[Vecna]

Kakegari, was T3 correct that MariaR is a majority poster in your hydra?

[Kakeguri Addicts]

T3 never said that.

It is incorrect to say that.

[Kakeguri Addicts]

I may have misinterpreted what you were trying to ask me. Yes, MariaR is a part of this hydra.

[ManateeDude]

unless you are specifically of the belief that T3 is werewolf you're ignoring what I've said

Im also very confused about what your actual argument is...

my bad LOL. the case I'm making is mafia!wheme that had specific tmi knowing that dannflor slot wasn't mafia as the "slip" implied

[ManateeDude]

guh I'm probably not gonna post for the next 12 hours or so. wish me luck with the inevitable catch up

[Vecna]

The game-state where the elimination is functionally already decided and people are only holding off on the elimination in order to let other people post.

Or do you disagree that this is what happened?

I disagree about your conclusion.

OK.

I think that players who show evidence that they're not critically considering information, but are instead glossing over things, are more likely than average (generally 1 in 4.25) to be non-town.
This is because players who are not thinking critically are instead either blending in and don't want to make the effort to consider everything, or they're demotivated (possibly and often due to alignment, and usually of the non-town variety), they simply don't understand, or they're simply lazy.

From my point of view, it's easy for an anti-town player to see that the game hasn't eliminated Dannflor yet and assume that we're still sort of in an rvs phase of the game (237). Or to come up with opinion that don't really make sense to somebody who understands that Dannflor needs to go today (619, 624, 662). Or to still think that Dannflor is being voted because T3 "slipped" (292, 656, most posts made by The Resistance).

In that case, why did you not apply this logic to me as well? was this written by the non-mariaR head?

Did MariaR mention me when you were discussing too many easy townreads being tossed around?

[Vecna]

I....have a theory

[Vecna]

gonna stew on it some more though, and observe for a bit more

remind me later

[Echolocation]

they're flirting with each other

Don’t do this.

Love you Pooky.

[Kakeguri Addicts]

In that case, why did you not apply this logic to me as well?

Go back to what was originally being talked about:

Why is that concerning?

I dont think you've made a strong enough argument for scum Dann to be stating that. Like at all.

I just talked about this for the three-headed deity hydra: It's a failure to think critically and

you're

not comprehending that game-state. This isn't a smoking bullet for alignment but it does tend to point towards anti-town members, in my experience.

We did apply that logic, and in fact were talking about you from the start of the conversation. In my eyes this is strike 1 for a 'failure to understand' yet continuing to try to argue when you don't know what you're talking about.

was this written by the non-mariaR head?

Yes.

Did MariaR mention me when you were discussing too many easy townreads being tossed around?

We didn't go into specifics on this. I doubt Mary has read your slot as you've mostly faded into the backdrop until now.

[Kakeguri Addicts]

For what it's worth, Mary thinks that you don't look like you're trying to survive, and that you lean town for that.

Yumeko has noted that you've bothered to use the search feature at all (and it also broke for me shortly before you mentioned it), which also leans town.

[Vecna]

My argumentative side really wants to keep arguing here, but I dont really have a great angle.

[Vecna]

Time for fluff

40 pages in less than 24h and Mastina hasnt even arrived yet.

[Anya]

is mastina a hyper poster

[Anya]

here is the guide to reading anya

someone else wrote this up i'm just paraphrasing

if anya claims vt -> she's wolf kill her
if anya provides a guide to reading her -> town she has no fear
if anya provides a guide to reading her but says it's towny for her to provide a guide -> she's wolf looking for coins
if anya provides a guide to reading her but says it's towny for her to provide a guide but then reveals it's wolfy for her to look for coins -> 100% town no shame

i might've forgotten an item or 2 but that was the gist

It's more like

Anya fucking around - Town
Anya helpful - Scum

what if it's both? i'm town that wants to side with the wolves

[Anya]

kakeguri made a really good salad about t3 and it's hard to justify putting caesar dressing on anyone else when t3 already has the olives and cottage cheese ready

kakeguri can you give wolf motives for dann's actions