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Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:02 am

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In post 238, The Resistance wrote:VOTE: Echolocation

Gut VC looking at. Ircher isn't opposed.

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aha found it. "Gut VC" just felt weird. I get VC analysis but adding the gut part feels like a way to easily back out of it. testing the waters(heh) i would call it

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Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:04 am

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In post 1024, unwnd wrote:This is another large theme game where I find trust very hard to find. I think my problem stems from the fact that maybe I respect others too much. Petapan, Morph the Cat, Kakeguri, Lukewarm. You know the people I was talking about being deliberate/meaningful. I respect their aptitude but it's not clicking here. Is this the fault with me or is it just multiball/D1 jitters where you can't really produce a coherent list given that you have a lot of fucking distancing going on. I'm not ready to trust given there are two factions that could try to kill me and the last multiball game I ended up with two shots in the chest. Lucky me.

I think if I were to seperate these 4 however in terms of readability over time it'd be something like Lukewarm -> Kakeguri -> Morph -> Peta. Peta takes great pride in his scumgame and likes trying different shit out. Morph probably is flexible as well. I like their content but that doesn't equate to trust. If you're tired of hearing me throw that word around get used to it. I think the terminology Cabd enjoys using is a pass. I would maybe given Peta/Morph a pass beyond D1 but that's likely guaranteed because they are not scum that dies D1. My efforts are more focused on killing low equity wolves/mafia and then seeing how potential bigshots who are aligned with them react to it.

I think right now Whemey is scum. Gut feelings resided by his chauvinistic behavior. Whemey is not exactly the knight who leads a bunch of mercenaries into battle for a noble cause. He's more of a self-proclaimed hero who tries to rout out evil when he sees it. Yet why was he was operating differently and trying to get people to join his cause? And on who exactly? T3? The person who is ubiquitously scumread by almost everyone? That doesn't seem very noble or townie to me. It all feels like poor acting and I fault Morph a bit for saying they liked his energy. Energy is the easiest emotion to fake and I would even say his energy is excessive. We agree to disagree unless my points compel you to think otherwise. It's not a masterstroke of a read but I'm not expecting to get great hits on D1. This is why I'm OK with killing off T3/Dannflor still because T3 was playing at low equity and that is where my priorities lie.
Last paragraph has wrong events. Whemey thinks Morph is scum and T3 was town. I wasn't being thorough as I could've been when I wrote this up I just started to flow. I think the scenario still fits however in my mind. I think Whemey jumping to an apparent noble cause and the way he's done it is very scummy. You could rewrite the post as "And on who exactly? Mroph? The person is ubiquitously townread by almost everyone? Or close to it? That doesn't seem very noble or townie to me." Amazing how not much changes.
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Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:05 am

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In post 1024, unwnd wrote:I fault Morph a bit for saying they liked his energy
That was spay going mercenary, btw. I don't have strong feelings one way or the other on Wheme's energy.
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Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:08 am

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I think it's pigeonholed and only used to exacerbate a point. Yet, what is the point exactly? Whemey definitely is more of a player that resonates with his own feelings. I would even say he struggles a bit and even gets tripped over by them. He was earnest in hia posts in Yggdrasril and didn't need to be so showy with his emotions. He just had them regardless of what was going on around him.
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Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:11 am

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didnt like how hot wheme came in with such aggressive certainty on a contrarian take but liked him doing homework and walking it back, doesnt strike me as effortful/deliberate enough to fake that, shrug imo
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Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:11 am

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Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:12 am

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I feel he's capable of doing it. Nothing suggests to me he couldn't play a halfway decent scum. My own bias (lol) actually makes me think he did that for the towncred and maybe wouldn't even bother as town? He never seemed like a player who cared about thoroughness
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Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:12 am

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Man is this game like super sekritly "2020 scumteam" vs "supertryhardomegalol scumteam" or something? SO many players on the bottom half of my reads repping out.
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Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:15 am

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My opinion is a mix of both
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Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:16 am

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Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:17 am

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In post 1032, morph the cat wrote:Man is this game like super sekritly "2020 scumteam" vs "supertryhardomegalol scumteam" or something? SO many players on the bottom half of my reads repping out.
are u sad ur team is abondinung u
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Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:20 am

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not everyone can handle being in a scum discord with Cabd
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Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:20 am

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In post 1026, unwnd wrote:Last paragraph has wrong events. Whemey thinks Morph is scum and T3 was town. I wasn't being thorough as I could've been when I wrote this up I just started to flow. I think the scenario still fits however in my mind. I think Whemey jumping to an apparent noble cause and the way he's done it is very scummy. You could rewrite the post as "And on who exactly? Mroph? The person is ubiquitously townread by almost everyone? Or close to it? That doesn't seem very noble or townie to me." Amazing how not much changes.
Are you aware that wheme came around to our opinion on T3 later?

Cabd is less enthused about wheme than I am. I think he's on a similar page with you regarding whether the excitement should be read as town.
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Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:21 am

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In post 1035, petapan wrote:
In post 1032, morph the cat wrote:Man is this game like super sekritly "2020 scumteam" vs "supertryhardomegalol scumteam" or something? SO many players on the bottom half of my reads repping out.
are u sad ur team is abondinung u
Do I look sad?
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Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:21 am

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In post 1036, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:not everyone can handle being in a scum discord with Cabd
A50 and Gypyx still have nightmares.
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Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:22 am

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A50 had to be dragged in there against his will lol
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Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:23 am

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The best part about this convo is that it'll target Spay in the splash damage as she was on the outside looking in.
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Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:31 am

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In post 1038, morph the cat wrote:
In post 1035, petapan wrote:
In post 1032, morph the cat wrote:Man is this game like super sekritly "2020 scumteam" vs "supertryhardomegalol scumteam" or something? SO many players on the bottom half of my reads repping out.
are u sad ur team is abondinung u
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Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:34 am

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petapan wrote:
In post 1038, morph the cat wrote:
In post 1035, petapan wrote:
In post 1032, morph the cat wrote:Man is this game like super sekritly "2020 scumteam" vs "supertryhardomegalol scumteam" or something? SO many players on the bottom half of my reads repping out.
are u sad ur team is abondinung u
Do I look sad?
devastated tbh
Interesting if that's an actual thought you have.

I feel like I'm vibing with most of your reads. Most of where we differ, to the extent we do, is in your midrange.
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Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:34 am

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In post 1041, morph the cat wrote:The best part about this convo is that it'll target Spay in the splash damage as she was on the outside looking in.
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Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:36 am

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I've like never been in a position where I'm supposed to die but am also still alive for an indefinite period of time

I'll probably just spend some time putting out a more detailed reads list today and then be done
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Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:38 am

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What’s up.
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Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:41 am

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Echo, can I have a little treat of a couple reads from you?
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Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:42 am

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I am working so no but I’ll give you the gift of give me like 3 names you wanna hear the most about because I would rather do anything else than keep up with this game.
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Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:42 am

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As in no not now but later.
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