Newbie 2071: The Sandwich Debate - End!

[JamesTheNames]

First, you and Grandpa would be the only ones who would notice the crumb because it was the exact same crumb Grandpa used in 2070. If I died then the other person would know. If scum realize this and don't kill me, then I am kept alive as basically cleared and scum potentially waste their roleblock. TSTBS doesn't apply here. I have my seperate reasons for scumreading both of you. No, withholding a read isn't scummy. I am crumbing doctor to both of you and what I did requires both of you to survive.Yes, I was hiding and planning in advance. I was planning to DIE.

In 2070 I died Day 1 while fake claiming doctor. In 2070 he did it entirely as a joke. I don't know why you're bringing up 2070.

[JamesTheNames]

I'm going to stop the current spam with two last questions, there's no chance T3 will answer either really.

Why would doctor crumb so obviously?

Everybody and their grandmother would realise it's fake.

Secondly what is stopping you from playing differently on purpose, you in your eyes always do X as town, what's stopping you, as Scum, from doing X then claiming you're town?

[T3]

I crumbed specifically to you and Grandpa. Also, why would scum crumb so obviouy?

[T3]

Either you're pr who directly contradicts doctor, or you're scum.

Why would a doctor make crumbing obvious?

I'm not doctor.

[cowsloveSushirolls]

VFP crumbs waaaaay better than you, T3
i have a few more thoughts but let me switch to PC i just woke up

[HockeyFan]

Regarding this whole T3 whole crumb thing, the actual crumb isnt scummy but SOLELY using that to towncase yourself is scummy. T3 has been like "oh look i fake breadcrumbed doctor, im town". James not budging and continuing to push T3 which gives me more reason to TR james

[cowsloveSushirolls]

I crumbed specifically to you and Grandpa. Also, why would scum crumb so obviouy?

to pull this incredible bout of wifom in place of actually committing to playing the role of a PR

for the record, i was aware of the crumbs (i even replied to one of them) and so yes, i believed in the small chance that you were just pr/maf

i think that this is worse

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 1-15

The history of the Reuben sandwich is somewhat contested. There is some evidence that the first Reuben was served at the Blackstone Hotel in Omaha, Nebraska that hosted a (yes, once again) gambling club. and also that Reuben's Restaurant in New York was the birthplace of the sandwich. By the 1940s, there are menus from both restaurants that feature the Reuben as it is known today: corned beef, Swiss cheese, sauerkraut, and Russian dressing, grilled between slices of rye bread.

T3

(3): VFP, JamesTheNames, cowsloveSushirolls

VFP

(2): Looker, HockeyFan

Looker

(1): GrandpaMo

JamesTheNames

(1): T3

Not Voting

(2): Clasko, Lady Lambdadelta

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Revised Deadline: July 17, Midnight US Eastern Time (one day added)

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-16 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[VFP]

VOTE: James
Like... I guess looking back on this my playstyle has definitely changed as in that I'm posting a lot more. I find it implausible that town James didn't even take into account meta or the crumb when pushing me.

What's changed your mind?

[cowsloveSushirolls]

VOTE: James
Like... I guess looking back on this my playstyle has definitely changed as in that I'm posting a lot more. I find it implausible that town James didn't even take into account meta or the crumb when pushing me.

oh just saw this
are you saying that you don't deserve to be pushed for making crumbs that even you admit to be terrible?

[GrandpaMo]

ok lol this interaction makes me wanna say something...

tldr; t3 + james are both tvt, if i had to choose at least 1 scum between james is the vote.

but nah nor t3 or james are scum here. ill explain when i get back from work, i think i will have time around 10:30 pm est, oh thats like 1 hour before deadline

hmmm.

im not moving my move honestly.

[GrandpaMo]

i dont think scum!t3 claims vt here after crumbing doc. i do confirm that t3 was crumbing to me. and was crumbing to james as an inside joke referring to "vc" which is something i did last game we were together.

i think t3 would just claim doc, there is no reason for scum!t3 to claim vt unless using it for wifom.

james not understanding this, is very weird. i actually do now think there is scum between vfp + james if t3 flips town.

i would actually vote vfp instead of james because of something which i wont disclose yet

i will post more game analysis when i come back but i have to go!!!

t3 is town!!!!

[GrandpaMo]

The thing is T3, you plausibly are town here.
But it's too late in the day for me to start a fresh wagon on someone, considering I don't like any of the other wagons.

I'm going to stop the current spam with two last questions, there's no chance T3 will answer either really.

Why would doctor crumb so obviously?

Everybody and their grandmother would realise it's fake.

Secondly what is stopping you from playing differently on purpose, you in your eyes always do X as town, what's stopping you, as Scum, from doing X then claiming you're town?

VFP crumbs waaaaay better than you, T3
i have a few more thoughts but let me switch to PC i just woke up

Regarding this whole T3 whole crumb thing, the actual crumb isnt scummy but SOLELY using that to towncase yourself is scummy. T3 has been like "oh look i fake breadcrumbed doctor, im town". James not budging and continuing to push T3 which gives me more reason to TR james

also look at this hostile passive aggressive pushing from 4 of the players against t3. lol

[GrandpaMo]

First, you and Grandpa would be the only ones who would notice the crumb because it was the exact same crumb Grandpa used in 2070. If I died then the other person would know. If scum realize this and don't kill me, then I am kept alive as basically cleared and scum potentially waste their roleblock. TSTBS doesn't apply here. I have my seperate reasons for scumreading both of you. No, withholding a read isn't scummy. I am crumbing doctor to both of you and what I did requires both of you to survive.Yes, I was hiding and planning in advance. I was planning to DIE.

In 2070 I died Day 1 while fake claiming doctor. In 2070 he did it entirely as a joke. I don't know why you're bringing up 2070.

this is also false.

[JamesTheNames]

something which i wont disclose yet

Why do people do this?

[cowsloveSushirolls]

The thing is T3, you plausibly are town here.
But it's too late in the day for me to start a fresh wagon on someone, considering I don't like any of the other wagons.

I'm going to stop the current spam with two last questions, there's no chance T3 will answer either really.

Why would doctor crumb so obviously?

Everybody and their grandmother would realise it's fake.

Secondly what is stopping you from playing differently on purpose, you in your eyes always do X as town, what's stopping you, as Scum, from doing X then claiming you're town?

VFP crumbs waaaaay better than you, T3
i have a few more thoughts but let me switch to PC i just woke up

Regarding this whole T3 whole crumb thing, the actual crumb isnt scummy but SOLELY using that to towncase yourself is scummy. T3 has been like "oh look i fake breadcrumbed doctor, im town". James not budging and continuing to push T3 which gives me more reason to TR james

also look at this hostile passive aggressive pushing from 4 of the players against t3. lol

what? all of these are unironically good points except maybe mine, because my intent was to be haha funny

[cowsloveSushirolls]

i guess a point for T3 was if they were actually going to do this as VT they made sure to do it as deliberately as possible in a way that a doctor would never do

T3, what was your intent by crumbing?

[HockeyFan]

ok lol this interaction makes me wanna say something...

tldr; t3 + james are both tvt, if i had to choose at least 1 scum between james is the vote.

but nah nor t3 or james are scum here. ill explain when i get back from work, i think i will have time around 10:30 pm est, oh thats like 1 hour before deadline

hmmm.

im not moving my move honestly.

i dont think scum!t3 claims vt here after crumbing doc. i do confirm that t3 was crumbing to me. and was crumbing to james as an inside joke referring to "vc" which is something i did last game we were together.

i think t3 would just claim doc, there is no reason for scum!t3 to claim vt unless using it for wifom.

james not understanding this, is very weird. i actually do now think there is scum between vfp + james if t3 flips town.

i would actually vote vfp instead of james because of something which i wont disclose yet

i will post more game analysis when i come back but i have to go!!!

t3 is town!!!!

u directly contradict yourself(u called the t3vJames interaction tVt just to say james could be scum 1 post later). Also, u said "think there is scum between vfp + james if t3 flips town" yk u dont have to flip t3 becausse VFP can still get condemmed so is this setting up a mis-lim tmr because u know t3 flips town? James rightfully pointed that out that "i wont disclose yet" is not a towny thing to do

Overall, I dont like these 2 posts very much, but I think i still vote VFP tdy unless somethign changes in the next few hours

[T3]

i guess a point for T3 was if they were actually going to do this as VT they made sure to do it as deliberately as possible in a way that a doctor would never do

T3, what was your intent by crumbing?

I'm just bad at crumbing lol
My intent was to find scum in Grandpa/James depending on whether I was killed

[JamesTheNames]

I think there's some chance, we'll end up on a 4 TF 4 VFP and 1 other vote and get a no elim.

[cowsloveSushirolls]

I think there's some chance, we'll end up on a 4 TF 4 VFP and 1 other vote and get a no elim.

if absolutely needed i'll swap to VFP to avoid a no lim. i'll be here until deadline

[cowsloveSushirolls]

can i know who else will be here at deadline

[JamesTheNames]

can i know who else will be here at deadline

I'd be willing to stay until an hour to 2 to go. (That would be late for me)

[HockeyFan]

can i know who else will be here at deadline

Me

[VFP]

Maybe, I might be asleep.