Not Quite Normal Multiball (Game Over)

WhemeStar · Post Post #2050 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:42 am

Idk go read the 50 pages

WhemeStar · Post Post #2051 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:42 am

I AM ON A ROLL WITH PAGETOPS

Lukewarm · Post Post #2052 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:51 am

In post 2049, ManateeDude wrote:why is. the thread so dead.

I feel like it moved so fast for so long, and then very suddenly stopped

morph the cat · Post Post #2053 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:51 am

In post 2049, ManateeDude wrote:why is. the thread so dead.

Well, it's a weekend.

But since you're here, I don't bite. Want to talk about why I disliked your hood posting?

WhemeStar · Post Post #2054 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:52 am

Don’t worry I will replace cabd as the drunk poster tonight

ManateeDude · Post Post #2055 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:54 am

In post 2053, morph the cat wrote:
In post 2049, ManateeDude wrote:why is. the thread so dead.
Well, it's a weekend.

But since you're here, I don't bite. Want to talk about why I disliked your hood posting?

yes please!

Lukewarm · Post Post #2056 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:54 am

In post 2053, morph the cat wrote:
In post 2049, ManateeDude wrote:why is. the thread so dead.
Well, it's a weekend.

But since you're here, I don't bite. Want to talk about why I disliked your hood posting?

I actually had a question wrt to this that I forgot to ask last night, and just made a note to remember to ask if/when you ever started actually pushing manatee

WhemeStar · Post Post #2057 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:57 am

Where did celestial go

morph the cat · Post Post #2058 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:00 am

In post 2055, ManateeDude wrote:
In post 2053, morph the cat wrote:
In post 2049, ManateeDude wrote:why is. the thread so dead.
Well, it's a weekend.

But since you're here, I don't bite. Want to talk about why I disliked your hood posting?
yes please!

Right, so, I get that being in a hood with a hydra in and of itself may by difficult. However, there's a few reasons that struck both of us as "off" here. Let's discuss one by one.

1: Your hesitance to engage strikes us as off.

I believe at one point you replied to this accusation with a note that we're "scary". Can you identify what, pregame, you did to identify us as such? Or what exactly gave you that impression, prior to last night? I could buy being scared of my drunk act, but the issues with engagement occurred well before that point in the game's flow. Did you research both heads of the hydra, or the hydra's past games? Did you ask around before the game started, that sort of thing?

Celestial Powerhouse · Post Post #2059 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:00 am

In post 2046, WhemeStar wrote:Dann/celestial what are ur reasons

My reads are with my brothers, I don't recall leaving a read on you.

-Hedas.

Celestial Powerhouse · Post Post #2060 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:02 am

In post 2048, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 2047, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:
In post 2046, WhemeStar wrote:Dann/celestial what are ur reasons
when did I scum read you

-Mister Ocean

In post 2012, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:

I didn't remember who the last two were

-Mister Ocean

oh right. I felt like there were too many nulls so I moved wheme down.

-Mister Ocean

morph the cat · Post Post #2061 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:03 am

In post 2049, ManateeDude wrote:why is. the thread so dead.

Be the change you want to see in the world.

morph the cat · Post Post #2062 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:04 am

In post 2061, morph the cat wrote:
In post 2049, ManateeDude wrote:why is. the thread so dead.
Be the change you want to see in the world.

I should note that this is spay confirming that we're both here and attentive to discuss this with you.

WhemeStar · Post Post #2063 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:13 am

Is it sad that I don’t know who spay is

Celestial Powerhouse · Post Post #2064 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:15 am

oh also wheme you never gave us a reason for voting us so .......... guess that means we can SR you all we want without having to provide reasons because the ocean god is salty and petty as fuck.

-Mister Ocean

Lukewarm · Post Post #2065 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:15 am

In post 2063, WhemeStar wrote:Is it sad that I don’t know who spay is

Yes

Celestial Powerhouse · Post Post #2066 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:16 am

spay is cabd I think

Lukewarm · Post Post #2067 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:18 am

In post 2065, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 2063, WhemeStar wrote:Is it sad that I don’t know who spay is
Yes

Morph is a Cabd / fferyllt hydra

And like, they have both both been mentioned by name this game, right? lol

morph the cat · Post Post #2068 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:18 am

Y'all are terrible

In the quest to control cat population growth, female cats get spayed. male cats get neutered.

~spay

morph the cat · Post Post #2069 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:22 am

In post 2068, morph the cat wrote:Y'all are terrible

In the quest to control cat population growth, female cats get spayed. male cats get neutered.

~spay

I guess there's folks here too young to know of Bob Barker's epic daytime television quest but yeesh.

WhemeStar · Post Post #2070 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:27 am

Ahhh hi ffery!

unwnd · Post Post #2071 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:29 am

This wall is very tangential and just me ruminating. I'd like to discuss why I'm scumreading certain people and why I believe their behavior fits what I'm looking for.

If the teams are divvied out because of multiball, I'd really expect them to huddle together and even try to float each other as far as possible. I also expect them to be way more paranoid and participating in some form of scumhunting themselves. It's always cool to be werwolf/mafia in Multiball in that sense, but I don't think either of them want a necessary spotlight. This gives favor to people like Morph who spelled it out plainly: What they're doing now just gets them killed. Werewolf/Mafia don't really want the role of influencer, they just want end up on the top end of lists. I want to walk back to an earlier issue with T3. This resolved itself, but the strange breakneck speed of the wagon and it's makeup (to me) made it seem like T3 didn't have partners who were willing to try and save him. What he did was egregious, no doubt. At worst they hoped people would forget or would be bussing. This didn't happen however, and my own bias tells me that bussing in multiball is less common, especially early. You need all the numbers you can get, especially when there's another faction shooting at you.

I bring it up because the current makeup of the wagons right now:

In post 1650, Cephrir wrote:
votecount 1.7
Dannflor (6) | Spiffeh, Kazyan, Kakeguri Addicts, Vecna, Ythan
VFP (4) | unwnd, morph the cat, Dannflor, Pooky
Spiffeh (3) | WhemeStar, petapan, Uncle Shelby
WhemeStar (2) | Vecna, ManateeDude
Lukewarm (2) | Celestial Powerhouse, Taco Hemingway
Celestial Powerhouse (1) | Anya
petapan (1) | Echolocation
Uncle Shelby (1) | The Resistance

Not Voting (3) | VFP, mastina, Vaxkiller

With 22 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2021-07-29 10:00:00)

This might not be the most accurate given Ceph claiming inactivity, but it's surprising a bit to me that Dann's wagon is still there. I can't say I feel great about these votes on Dann especially in light of my own flip of the read. There's a lot of straggling scum in my opinion who don't want to make any drastic moves. Getting off my own tangent just to say that Ythan

actively

fighting for Dann looks far better than those who are still passively on him. Something like Kazyan and Vecna maybe? Those are two people I'd place my bets on, Vecna especially. I glanced Manatee liking him and I would need far more than that because Vecna to me fits the concepts I'm talking about and how I would perceive..people not town to behave. Someone who wants to be town by implied motivation, but nothing to show for it. Manatee's defense is shortsighted and I don't see how it absolves Vecna at all. You could basically summarize it as Manatee enjoying the contrarianism Vecna has purportedly done but that means nothing to me. Strong opinions and stances go way farther even if they end up being wrong. I feel like Vecna and the way he plays right now implies that something will come of it. Yet it never does.

In terms of Kaz? I have less to speak on and feel my last time I talked about them still fits. They haven't figured out what they want to do. That could be because they're a lackey for something greater and they haven't been given proper direction. Or they're just a townie who can't keep up. Vecna/Kaz are not really the same because Vecna again

implies

something will come of it. Kaz doesn't really bring any expectation upon themselves.

ManateeDude · Post Post #2072 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:33 am

In post 2058, morph the cat wrote:
In post 2055, ManateeDude wrote:
In post 2053, morph the cat wrote:
In post 2049, ManateeDude wrote:why is. the thread so dead.
Well, it's a weekend.

But since you're here, I don't bite. Want to talk about why I disliked your hood posting?
yes please!
Right, so, I get that being in a hood with a hydra in and of itself may by difficult. However, there's a few reasons that struck both of us as "off" here. Let's discuss one by one.

1: Your hesitance to engage strikes us as off.

I believe at one point you replied to this accusation with a note that we're "scary". Can you identify what, pregame, you did to identify us as such? Or what exactly gave you that impression, prior to last night? I could buy being scared of my drunk act, but the issues with engagement occurred well before that point in the game's flow. Did you research both heads of the hydra, or the hydra's past games? Did you ask around before the game started, that sort of thing?

i dont know much about either of you as a hydra or as players, i do however know both of you are pretty well known and were acknowledged by many player IT. i guess just the volume of thoughts and ideas u were churning out participated to that as well

sorry this took forever - was helping my mom w dinner

morph the cat · Post Post #2073 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:33 am

In post 2071, unwnd wrote:This might not be the most accurate given Ceph claiming inactivity, but it's surprising a bit to me that Dann's wagon is still there. I can't say I feel great about these votes on Dann especially in light of my own flip of the read. There's a lot of straggling scum in my opinion who don't want to make any drastic moves. Getting off my own tangent just to say that Ythan actively fighting for Dann looks far better than those who are still passively on him. Something like Kazyan and Vecna maybe? Those are two people I'd place my bets on, Vecna especially. I glanced Manatee liking him and I would need far more than that because Vecna to me fits the concepts I'm talking about and how I would perceive..people not town to behave. Someone who wants to be town by implied motivation, but nothing to show for it. Manatee's defense is shortsighted and I don't see how it absolves Vecna at all. You could basically summarize it as Manatee enjoying the contrarianism Vecna has purportedly done but that means nothing to me. Strong opinions and stances go way farther even if they end up being wrong. I feel like Vecna and the way he plays right now implies that something will come of it. Yet it never does.

...I have an entire draft in our hydra PT i'm working on about how Vecna is the charismatic pick for scum trying to float without engaging enough to get shot and you beat me to it, damn.

morph the cat · Post Post #2074 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:35 am

In post 2072, ManateeDude wrote:i dont know much about either of you as a hydra or as players, i do however know both of you are pretty well known and were acknowledged by many player IT. i guess just the volume of thoughts and ideas u were churning out participated to that as well

sorry this took forever - was helping my mom w dinner

Oh, what is your time zone?

I had (wrongly) assumed you were in North America somewhere and was expecting activity accordingly, letting me know what your time schedule looks like might help me with that.

Can you explain what you mean by "acknowledged by many players IT"?