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Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:07 pm

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Humoring you for a second where did role.xop enter the picture. Last I checked it was a bunch of other dumbass claims.
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Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:08 pm

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I recall the babysitter fake but rolecop?
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Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:09 pm

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In post 83, T3 wrote:Anyways, I think we should try to kill the werewolves. Feel free to bus me early because I'll bus you all. The miller claim is an inside joke but I can always say it's serious later. I might rolecop unwnd because of the soft?
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Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:09 pm

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In post 83, T3 wrote:Anyways, I think we should try to kill the werewolves. Feel free to bus me early because I'll bus you all. The miller claim is an inside joke but I can always say it's serious later. I might rolecop unwnd because of the soft?
Oh here. Meh.
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Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:10 pm

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Forget the fake claims that's obviously the real one.
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Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:10 pm

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You need to try harder than that please!
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Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:12 pm

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I think T3 is a big goober and Dann's posting is telling enough to where he'll either need to keep it up (and eventually slip partners) or just eventually lead us to one of them.
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Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:13 pm

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83 feels too perfect to be a real slip

It talks about werewolves, bussing, a fake miller claim, a rolecop, and another

Also it starts with "Anyways," implying there was substantial conversation happening in a scum pt before this point
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Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:13 pm

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Show me alternative confirmed scum please.
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Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:13 pm

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In post 2207, Kakeguri Addicts wrote:83 feels too perfect to be a real slip

It talks about werewolves, bussing, a fake miller claim, a rolecop, and another

Also it starts with "Anyways," implying there was substantial conversation happening in a scum pt before this point
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Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:14 pm

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Did a search to see if Manatee uses wolf and scum interchangeable, and found 4 posts total where they have used the word "wolf."

Once in a 2018 game, once in 2020 game - both times were in games w/o werewolves, and the term was used in place of the word scum

and then twice this game (including the one that morph described as a perspective slip).
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Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:15 pm

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If y'all are just not thinking clearly then maybe consider the repercussions to your slots in future game days for this kind of nonsense derailment of easy pickings.
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Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:16 pm

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In post 2209, Ythan wrote:
In post 2207, Kakeguri Addicts wrote:83 feels too perfect to be a real slip

It talks about werewolves, bussing, a fake miller claim, a rolecop, and another

Also it starts with "Anyways," implying there was substantial conversation happening in a scum pt before this point
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We have talked about T3/Dann substantially and the slip was never the reason that we believed they should be eliminated.
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Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:16 pm

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In post 2211, Ythan wrote:If y'all are just not thinking clearly then maybe consider the repercussions to your slots in future game days for this kind of nonsense derailment of easy pickings.
What if he just dies from a stray bullet?
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Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:18 pm

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In post 2213, unwnd wrote:
In post 2211, Ythan wrote:If y'all are just not thinking clearly then maybe consider the repercussions to your slots in future game days for this kind of nonsense derailment of easy pickings.
What if he just dies from a stray bullet?
What do you wanna do tomorrow when that hasn't happened yet wait for d3?
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Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:19 pm

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Reassess because while I love thinking I have all the right ideas

I probably don't because it's D1!
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Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:20 pm

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We don't even necessarily disagree with you Ythan.

We were swayed enough by Morph's meta read that we are willing to eliminate someone else who looks like a low-hanging scum elimination.
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Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:21 pm

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I want to re-iterate that this also clears the masonry and makes it a TRUE masonry.

YTHAN... I literally cannot be mafia.
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Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:22 pm

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In post 2215, unwnd wrote:Reassess because while I love thinking I have all the right ideas

I probably don't because it's D1!
The solution is not to actively skip the idea that seems best.
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Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:22 pm

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So... am I a werewolf trying to save the mafia rolecop?

Come on, tell me.
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Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:23 pm

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In post 2174, morph the cat wrote:
Thesis: ManateeDude is a Werewolf With Vecna


Part 1: Underlying Knowledge That The Reader May Find Useful

1 - Morph the Cat and ManteeDude, along with an unnamed third player, are in a Masonry that is mod-explained to potentially include a Wolf, but none of us can be Mafia or Malefactor.
2 - Within that PT, ManateeDude (this morning) claimed explicitly to have never been in a hood before, to explain her unsuredness of how to engage or use one
3 - ManteeDude was in a neighborhood in Mini Normal 2218, and while she did not post, she was a serious topic of discussion, and she had access to the PT.
4 - Morph the Cat explicitly heavily townreads the third person in this Masonry.


Part 2: Perspective Slip

In post 2109, ManateeDude wrote:to elaborate on vecna, i really like that hes not afraid to comment on small things and give out opinions where
as a wolf
one could avoid engaging in fear of getting in shit
So... you're in a masonry (guaranteed by the mod not to contain mafia or malefactor), and are asked your opinion on a specific player... and you explicitly defend them as not being a wolf, as opposed to groupscum of any kind? Why is this? It's because you ARE a wolf with them, you know they're not mafia so you don't need to help them with that part. You don't particularly care if Morph the Cat finds out the Mafia team.


Part 3: Meta Homework




From a meta perspective, this game is somewhat anomalous for you. During the last few hours, you've used more emojis than you usually use in an entire game, regardless of your alignment. At first we thought this might be something unique to your scum game, but it's actually unique to
this
game. You're also posting much more than you usually do. The only recent-ish game I found where you have posted more (though the duration was longer than this game so far), you were a 3rd party bomber in a Grwhatever Idea game. So what's unique about this game? You'll have to supply that answer. You've played bastard multiball. You've played Normals of various sizes. You've played Opens. To a lesser extent you've played newbie and mini themes. Overall, you may tend to post more as town than as scum, but you've also replaced in as both alignments and replaced out (at least once) as scum, so some of your ISOs are quite short regardless of alignment.

This cursory look was meant to confirm if you'd ever been in a neighborhood before, and to satisfy a pique about your dropping a bunch of emojis in the space of a couple hours. Given you HAVE played in a game with a neighborhood before, in a mini normal game that ended earlier this week, even though you didn't post in the neighborhood (all your game posting took place within 24 hours of having replaced in) per the neighborhood OP you had access to the neighborhood. We're really, REALLY surprised and suspicious because you didn't mention anything about this game when I asked in our PT.

In general, your towngames tend to feature direct aggression on players that stand out to you, whereas your scumgames tend to focus on a more laidback style of posting.
you've actually failed completely in any aspect to use any of the many tools provided to you to develop an accurate read on me which is rather dissapointing. calling the post regarding vecna a slip is just dumb at best and actively misleading at worst. im gonna respond to this post with an in depth reasoning as to why you are simply wrong.

this supposed slip on Vecna is just so... not a slip and generally just doesn't take into account why someone would use the word wolf to describe a scumread.
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In post 2005, ManateeDude wrote:im still of the mindset dann was tmi'ed by wheme and im ready to believe theyre town for quite a while
how does this work with multi-ball

I find it hard to believe this is the only reason I went from 100% the elim today to your top town read category?
i mean............. thats kind of it. youve generally been pretty towny from my perspective though i really did not like what T3 did so i guess its a combination of my theory and warming up to your slot. i still dont think your slot is wolf based around what happened, and my theory is that wheme is specifically mafia
a few hours ago i specifically used the word wolf when describing a general scumread and yet this post is the one you take into note? its an incredibly shallow and misinformed and calling it a slip is just flat out wrong. wolf is a pretty common term to describe a scumread, and was actually quite common on my homesite during my time there. i think you know this take isn't very solid so you backed it up with some meta reads that are arguably weaker.

did you not at all take into account the interactions i've had with vecna so far? do you really truly think i was willing to put vecna at the top of my townreads and he was willing to state i was obvtown at one point? i thought u did your research :?



the meta section isn't great either. it's pretty obvious this game is different as you noted and thats because of my renewed interest in playing mafia. whether you want to analyze my posting style coming off of year long break and with an attempt to approach the game is totally up to you, but your conclusions are incorrect regardless.

regarding the neighbourhood, it simply didn't strike my mind especially as important considering the context. im not sure what aspect youre deeming as scummy considering the fact u also noted that i didnt post at all and the discussion at the time was regarding my interactions in the the masonry. its not like i was trying to avoid discussion and how that conclusion would be drawn is weird cos why would the neighbourhood i was added to right before my concurrent speedlim provide any context to the discussion at hand? whats inherently suspicious about forgetting to include this hood? especially bc you can see how quickly my response was formulated and we moved on.



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Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:23 pm

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In post 2217, morph the cat wrote:I want to re-iterate that this also clears the masonry and makes it a TRUE masonry.

YTHAN... I literally cannot be mafia.
Could you be bothered to give me a recap on this if you want me to accept it if not I'm sure I'll find it myself eventually.
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Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:24 pm

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In post 2219, morph the cat wrote:So... am I a werewolf trying to save the mafia rolecop?

Come on, tell me.
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Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:24 pm

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In post 2221, Ythan wrote:
In post 2217, morph the cat wrote:I want to re-iterate that this also clears the masonry and makes it a TRUE masonry.

YTHAN... I literally cannot be mafia.
Could you be bothered to give me a recap on this if you want me to accept it if not I'm sure I'll find it myself eventually.
Did you even read the goddamn wall?

We are in a MASONRY with manatee and one other slot.
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Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:26 pm

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Morph Manatee other person masonry with wolf but no other baddies Manatee say something that implies wolfthoughts but not mafiathoughts lining up with potential wolf. Manatee howling.
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