MT 2219: The Battle of Calculasia - Endgame

[MathBlade]

If you’re town you also wanted mass claim.

Bad form to vote before that happens

[Titus]

If you’re town you also wanted mass claim.

Bad form to vote before that happens

I know

[MathBlade]

What is tempting you to vote before that happens?

Why are you speeding through this?

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh I'm back to TR'ing MB, time to walk away from the computer.

[Titus]

Because I see all roads leading to scum Galron.

[MathBlade]

Because I see all roads leading to scum Galron.

Okay then let’s work off that assumption. Two types of conversation:

Why do you think all roads lead to scum Galron?

Assume Galron is scum and the why above is accurate:

Who is scum with Galron?

[MathBlade]

In other words if you’re pigeonholed into thinking Galron is scum (not using that to knock your opinion but if you’re debating voting him before the standard elo rules then it’s a tunnel right or wrong)

Then this logic should stand up whatever outstanding claims are left

[Titus]

Because I see all roads leading to scum Galron.

Okay then let’s work off that assumption. Two types of conversation:

Why do you think all roads lead to scum Galron?

Assume Galron is scum and the why above is accurate:

Who is scum with Galron?

I'm not answering 1 until Galron shows and claims.

I don't know who is scum with Galron but if kills are social kills then I know who isn't scum with Galron.

[MathBlade]

Because I see all roads leading to scum Galron.

Okay then let’s work off that assumption. Two types of conversation:

Why do you think all roads lead to scum Galron?

Assume Galron is scum and the why above is accurate:

Who is scum with Galron?

I'm not answering 1 until Galron shows and claims.

I don't know who is scum with Galron but if kills are social kills then I know who isn't scum with Galron.

And that’s what scares me.

Assume Galron claims VT. You can frame an argument based on that.
Assume Galron claims PR. You can frame an argument based on that.

If you’re scum then Galron would be where you planned to end up.
If you’re town and you think Galron is scum independent of the claim then you should be able to explain why Galron is scum without it.

If you’re unsure then not all roads lead to Galron being scum and somehow you’re being tunnelled.

Does this make sense?

[Titus]

Because I see all roads leading to scum Galron.

Okay then let’s work off that assumption. Two types of conversation:

Why do you think all roads lead to scum Galron?

Assume Galron is scum and the why above is accurate:

Who is scum with Galron?

I'm not answering 1 until Galron shows and claims.

I don't know who is scum with Galron but if kills are social kills then I know who isn't scum with Galron.

And that’s what scares me.

Assume Galron claims VT. You can frame an argument based on that.
Assume Galron claims PR. You can frame an argument based on that.

If you’re scum then Galron would be where you planned to end up.
If you’re town and you think Galron is scum independent of the claim then you should be able to explain why Galron is scum without it.

If you’re unsure then not all roads lead to Galron being scum and somehow you’re being tunnelled.

Does this make sense?

It does a bit, but my argument is separate from if Galron flips VT or PR.

I could share it, but I want to see who Galron scumreads and why for the wifom/strategy.

[Titus]

If Galron thinks he can get out of it, he'll play differently.

[MathBlade]

A50 getting turbo launched was p dumb. Whenever I've run into a pissed off A50 it's because he's been right. Or at least he's ended up being right. That means dgb and Titus are town. Math and wheme are the team. Which makes sense
No way that hood was full town. Unless Ircher is just messing with us there's no way that 2 p hood both had the same role and alignment.

I'm never voting Titus or dgb.

Now i understand why wheme wasn't resolved first. Math was too busy running interference.

A50 told us wheme was scum.

I want to hear from Titus before I vote though.

Pretty sure Galron said it’s me and Wheme. He said he’s never voting you and Titus.

[Titus]

A50 getting turbo launched was p dumb. Whenever I've run into a pissed off A50 it's because he's been right. Or at least he's ended up being right. That means dgb and Titus are town. Math and wheme are the team. Which makes sense
No way that hood was full town. Unless Ircher is just messing with us there's no way that 2 p hood both had the same role and alignment.

I'm never voting Titus or dgb.

Now i understand why wheme wasn't resolved first. Math was too busy running interference.

A50 told us wheme was scum.

I want to hear from Titus before I vote though.

Pretty sure Galron said it’s me and Wheme. He said he’s never voting you and Titus.

I'm aware. I want him claim and to see if anything changes.

[MathBlade]

I think my response ruins what you’re going for if you’re town but let me just say I don’t think anything would change here.

[Titus]

I think my response ruins what you’re going for if you’re town but let me just say I don’t think anything would change here.

It doesn't.

[DrippingGoofball]

How does anyone decide who is scummier between WhemeStar and Galron?

[MathBlade]

I think it does or at least what I want to see out of Galron. I am going to cook lunch now. Be back later.

Pedit: I decide by who is scum with them or just don’t decide at all and it’s you and Titus.

[Titus]

How does anyone decide who is scummier between WhemeStar and Galron?

NKA. What you should have used to catch me in Deco.

[MathBlade]

How does anyone decide who is scummier between WhemeStar and Galron?

NKA. What you should have used to catch me in Deco.

No offense Titus but when you’re scum your kills make as much sense as a 100 page proof.

[Ircher]

Day 5 VC #1

Not Voting (5): Galron, DrippingGoofball, WhemeStar, Titus, MathBlade

With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes to fade a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end no earlier than Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:45:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-07-15 21:45:00).
This phase will end no later than Saturday, July 24, 2021 9:45 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-07-24 21:45:00).

Moderator Notes

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2: Please let me know if you have a different pronoun preference than listed below.
3: The moderator will be V/LA in late July. Tentative dates are July 25 to July 28.
4: Please note that with five players left, there is no minimum deadline.

Pronoun Key

1: DrippingGoofball : It
3: Xlos : He/him
4: Almost50 : He/him
6: Galron : He/him
7: MathBlade : He/him
9: Titus : She/her
10: WhemeStar : He/him

[DrippingGoofball]

How does anyone decide who is scummier between WhemeStar and Galron?

NKA. What you should have used to catch me in Deco.

No offense Titus but when you’re scum your kills make as much sense as a 100 page proof.

That's a very topical dis

[Titus]

How does anyone decide who is scummier between WhemeStar and Galron?

NKA. What you should have used to catch me in Deco.

No offense Titus but when you’re scum your kills make as much sense as a 100 page proof.

That's a very topical dis

It's very topical. I agree. It's still how we catch Galron.

[Titus]

That and day play, particularly his Toog vote D3.

[Titus]

@Galron, Why are you voting Toog?

Reading last page of day 2 it seemed fairly clear that if nom flipped red, toogs was probably not a rb.

@Galron, Why are you voting Toog?

Reading last page of day 2 it seemed fairly clear that if nom flipped red, toogs was probably not a rb.

And you didn't consider the possibility of nom knowing he had been roleblocked by a town toog?

If nom had tried to use his flavorcop and failed, he could have deduced he was blocked.

I didn't really take that into account, no. But mom claiming bring blocked and then toogs confirming was way too rest for whatever nom cooked up. I have both the benefit of the doubt the majority of the day, and mom's red flip soured me on the whole thing. I jumped right to tools scum and I still think that's the simplest explanation.

If we're not launching Toog, why not?

VOTE: xlos

Xlos has been shaky all game. If A50 is right wheme should probably be first. And toog still doesn't make sense. But a pissed off A50 isn't theater ime.

[MathBlade]

To borrow your (and apparently DGB’s phrase) what’s the difference between bad player jail and scum here?