MT 2219: The Battle of Calculasia - Endgame


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Post Post #1700 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:37 pm

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Okay well I am probably going to vote galron here because I don’t think it’s DGB at all and I don’t think it’s
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Post Post #1701 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:37 pm

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Hence why if you pushed me to claim before Galron I would claim the enabler half.

I didn’t want to give Galron an out if he was scum.

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Post Post #1702 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:37 pm

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So my POE basically puts it as galron confirmed scum and idk who else
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Post Post #1703 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:38 pm

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It’s quite possible scum!DGB or scum!you saw that and shot Jake thinking he was a vig.
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Post Post #1704 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:39 pm

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In post 1702, WhemeStar wrote:So my POE basically puts it as galron confirmed scum and idk who else
So in other words you’re a direct clone of Titus which is not sus at all /s
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Post Post #1705 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:40 pm

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I am honored you would think I would catch something like that
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Post Post #1706 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:40 pm

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In post 1704, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1702, WhemeStar wrote:So my POE basically puts it as galron confirmed scum and idk who else
So in other words you’re a direct clone of Titus which is not sus at all /s
I mean it’s a pretty easy poe with 2 scum and 5 people
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Post Post #1707 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:41 pm

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In post 1702, WhemeStar wrote:So my POE basically puts it as galron confirmed scum and idk who else
Lol
In post 1703, MathBlade wrote:It’s quite possible scum!DGB or scum!you saw that and shot Jake thinking he was a vig.
The vig.


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Post Post #1708 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:42 pm

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Why is that an Lol?
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Post Post #1709 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:42 pm

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In post 1703, MathBlade wrote:It’s quite possible scum!DGB or scum!you saw that and shot Jake thinking he was a vig.
I think we all had deduced no vig before you had outed, barring a scum vig (which is what would take this game from normal status). No extra shot had appeared both nights and no one claimed their shot had been interfered with.

I think scum ignored your crumbs because they figured it was impossible and you were stuck up on random roles that didn't exist because of your role.

Town made the same mistake in Deco. DGB never shoots Jake for the reason you describe.
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Post Post #1710 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:43 pm

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If it’s math/Titus I think they pretty much win here they’ve been dominating the thread
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Post Post #1711 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:44 pm

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Galron, with two people lock scumreading you, it's in town's best interest to have you vote first.
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Post Post #1712 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:45 pm

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In post 1711, Titus wrote:Galron, with two people lock scumreading you, it's in town's best interest to have you vote first.
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Post Post #1713 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:46 pm

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In post 1706, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1704, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1702, WhemeStar wrote:So my POE basically puts it as galron confirmed scum and idk who else
So in other words you’re a direct clone of Titus which is not sus at all /s
I mean it’s a pretty easy poe with 2 scum and 5 people
It’s actually not. We pretty much have to solve the game here. 5 player elo is one of the most stressful because we have to have the right votes. If we don’t then we fuck up 3P elo.

Getting a scum means we survive.

The problem is you and Titus are pretty much clones.
Galron is pretty much a null entity most of the game
And DGB might as well win for active lurking.
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Post Post #1714 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:49 pm

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In post 1712, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1711, Titus wrote:Galron, with two people lock scumreading you, it's in town's best interest to have you vote first.
I don’t think I ageee with this post
This is exactly how to play elo with a managable size (meaning scum could quickhammer). By forcing a widely scumread player to vote first, it increases our odds of hitting scum.

If they pick an obvtown, they are ceding the night/game (scum/town).

If they pick a scum suspect, then we have two scummy players crossing rather than a town and a scum. Plus, scum could bus ensuring we with 3p elo.
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Post Post #1715 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:52 pm

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In post 1709, Titus wrote:
In post 1703, MathBlade wrote:It’s quite possible scum!DGB or scum!you saw that and shot Jake thinking he was a vig.
I think we all had deduced no vig before you had outed, barring a scum vig (which is what would take this game from normal status). No extra shot had appeared both nights and no one claimed their shot had been interfered with.

I think scum ignored your crumbs because they figured it was impossible and you were stuck up on random roles that didn't exist because of your role.

Town made the same mistake in Deco. DGB never shoots Jake for the reason you describe.
I disagree with this based on what it did in Yellowstone. I also disagree that you don’t kill him either.

Pedit: Titus that’s usually done by fake voting first.

It’s not done by thread pull. Because scum have a vested interest in not talking about themselves
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Post Post #1716 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:57 pm

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In post 1695, Titus wrote:
In post 1694, MathBlade wrote:MathBlade+
Me the math loving person who apparently has all the value to the yard and makes all the theorems say what variables are enabled?

I am a vig enabler Titus. This is my confusion.

I have been trying to die for a few days now so people see why the fuck I am so confused as to what the fuck you’re doing.

I practically have screamed my role for multiple game days now
Well here's DGB's theory that every normal has to have a misleading role.
Why do you instantly believe me here Titus?
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Post Post #1717 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:59 pm

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In post 1716, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1695, Titus wrote:
In post 1694, MathBlade wrote:MathBlade+
Me the math loving person who apparently has all the value to the yard and makes all the theorems say what variables are enabled?

I am a vig enabler Titus. This is my confusion.

I have been trying to die for a few days now so people see why the fuck I am so confused as to what the fuck you’re doing.

I practically have screamed my role for multiple game days now
Well here's DGB's theory that every normal has to have a misleading role.
Why do you instantly believe me here Titus?
I don't. It just says it follows DGB's theory. I'm inclined to believe it, but I don't automatically believe it.
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Post Post #1718 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:59 pm

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You've been yelling about a vig despite the evidence, which leads credence to your claim.
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Post Post #1719 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:02 pm

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Okay.

Break down all three worlds Titus:
Assume I am vig enabler and town
Assume I am vig enabler and scum
Assume I am not vig enabler and scum

What does that mean?
(Yes logically there is a fourth world that I am town and lying about vig enabler but just no lmao include it if you want)
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Post Post #1720 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:08 pm

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In post 1719, MathBlade wrote:Okay.

Break down all three worlds Titus:
Assume I am vig enabler and town
Assume I am vig enabler and scum
Assume I am not vig enabler and scum

What does that mean?
(Yes logically there is a fourth world that I am town and lying about vig enabler but just no lmao include it if you want)
Your claim doesn't change my Galron analysis at all.
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Post Post #1721 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:12 pm

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In post 1720, Titus wrote:
In post 1719, MathBlade wrote:Okay.

Break down all three worlds Titus:
Assume I am vig enabler and town
Assume I am vig enabler and scum
Assume I am not vig enabler and scum

What does that mean?
(Yes logically there is a fourth world that I am town and lying about vig enabler but just no lmao include it if you want)
Your claim doesn't change my Galron analysis at all.
That’s not what I asked Titus.

In elo the entire game should be solved.

I asked about how you read me, not Galron.
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Post Post #1722 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:14 pm

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In post 1721, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1720, Titus wrote:
In post 1719, MathBlade wrote:Okay.

Break down all three worlds Titus:
Assume I am vig enabler and town
Assume I am vig enabler and scum
Assume I am not vig enabler and scum

What does that mean?
(Yes logically there is a fourth world that I am town and lying about vig enabler but just no lmao include it if you want)
Your claim doesn't change my Galron analysis at all.
That’s not what I asked Titus.

In elo the entire game should be solved.

I asked about how you read me, not Galron.
My read on you is that you're not the flip for today.

I disagree that we have to solve the entire game today. It's easier to get all town to agree on one scum than all town to agree on the exact puzzle. Plus we could get a bus today.
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Post Post #1723 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:14 pm

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This is just an arrogance coming to fruition. A wasted game. I get why A50 self hammered. This has just been a show so you two can have another showdown. Except I get launched and it's gg so no showdown.
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Post Post #1724 (ISO) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:17 pm

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In post 1723, Galron wrote:This is just an arrogance coming to fruition. A wasted game. I get why A50 self hammered. This has just been a show so you two can have another showdown. Except I get launched and it's gg so no showdown.
If you think I am town, your best bet is to vote here.

If you think it's Math/Wheme, why is this a wasted game? Wouldn't me sorting Math be good for the game?

If you think Math v me is arrogance, then you'd have to take the position that it's DGB plus Wheme.
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