Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

[pj harvey dent]

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Votecount 4.4

[2] Tanner:

Ydrasse, Morning Tweet

[2] Ydrasse:

clidd, Flea The Magician

[4] Not Voting:

Amy Dunne, PookyTheMagicalBear, Chara, Tanner

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to sentence. If there is no majority by the deadline, plurality will decide.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-07-25 12:06:58).

Joint moderator ISO.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

there's a lot of despondency in this thread for a game that is winnable if we just identify one scumbag correctly.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also shiki is like unbeatable wow

[Flea The Magician]

Genuinely if there's any red flip outside of Tanner and Chara then we know.

Following green PoE gives us the best chance than giving a red a go.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[i wrote the following the morning after the flip. the norwee and ircher parts are kinda moot now, but i'm posting it anyway. will look at norwee's iso when it's not 2am. also uhhh, ircher buddy you okay there?]

i cannot stop thinking about this game, so i will make some notes. if i live to see day two, i will post this in the main thread. if not, i will post this in the dead thread. the order within tiers is kinda town>scum but also kind of not, idk.

town:

- tanner. don't @ me.

most likely town unless we're living in a fucked up world:

- ydrasse. while i was thinking her posts are pretty townie on its own, i don't think scum!her decides to bus infinity in 1744 after i made two (2) shitposts asking for infinity votes. she could've made some bullshit up about nakata. or about ircher. or about literally anyone. like, i *think* ydrasse is sometimes slightly bus happy, but lmfao what the fuck would this be. nah fam.

- norwee. similar story to ydrasse, i think his general solviness and energy are decently +town on their own, i similarly don't think he busses infinity in 1745 like that. town.

- amy. this one is not as strong as ydra/norwee because i don't have like, a *general* townread on her slot, but i still think that that infinity bus was not in any way necessary, especially as she was already angling to vote either nakata or ircher. so i don't think scum!amy does it.

- ircher. now this is not really based on his play (though that one wallpost was Decent i guess), but i believe the way infinity played around him *strongly* implies that he's town. so i already called out infinity for this in 1380, but look at this sequence. in 1218, ircher is at 5 votes, and infinity is egging his wagon on, but not voting him herself. ~18 hours later, ircher is at y-1, with it seeming like there's not way he's not getting yeeted. infinity jumps out of the void to suddenly defend ircher and say that she actually wants to kill nakata (1357, 1359). this is not scum defending their partner (unless they were going for the ultimate wifom defense). this is scum weakly defending a townie they thought was a lost cause for the towncred the next day. and then on page 70 she's magically fine with an ircher wagon again? if this truly was a 9000 iq distance that infinity knew i was gonna fall for, then mad props.

probably(?) town but like, i could be wrong:

- clidd. this one kinda pains me. he's here solely based on his play/wim, and the fact that i am very aware that town!clidd gets tunnelled on unimportant things and misses sort-of-obvious scum signs. like, his defense of infinity is Not Good, and that hammer makes me slightly anxious. but as said, on play he's town, so i'm just gonna hope he's town for now.

- pooky. now i am not that solid on this one because he did want ircher and shit, but i don't think he lets partner!infinity die like that. idk, i'm invoking the chara's folly tell again. i don't think pooky sits on the sidelines like that when his partner is going down like that.

- nakata. ctrl+f'ing "nakata" in infinity's iso, i don't think those are s/s. like, infinity was kind of continuously pushing nakata, and the posts i called infinity out for in 1380 imply to me that they're not aligned. also, i don't think that nakata not wanting to vote infinity because infinity will be readable later is actually scummy, as opposed to a townie caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. *however*, i'm putting it out there immediately that i have been fooled by a distance like the one i called out in 1380, so take this with a grain of salt. also, if i wake up to see ydrasse dead, i'm heavily looking at nakata and trying to sort him asap. (i'll be doing that if i'm alive regardless, because i feel like a decent amount of the game could be different depending on if nakata is scum or town, but you feel).

the poe:

- morning tweet. man, i want tweetie to be town, i really do. i'm not yet feeling the "tweetie is obvtown" feeling. and her interactions / play around infinity are... iffy at best. and i don't like the sit on ircher.

- chara. i'm not very certain on this, and it's mostly a nullread coupled with "its infinity vote made me raise an eyebrow" and some posts around her feeling "hmm". i haven't yet put too much thought into this, since sorting chara is probably Not Easy, and i don't like using up effort if i don't know if i'm gonna see tomorrow to present that effort. and i know "this person have stronk scumgaem so null" is an extremely annoying thing to hear (i lose my shit every time innocentvillager does it to me, even though more often than not it's a joke), so in advance i'm apologizing for doing that, but. yeah.

- flea. yikes, okay, what the fuck was that vote on me lmfao. anyway, something rings scummy-wrong about fae having infinity in faer scumpool for a long period of time but never voting her? however, something also rings townie-wrong in fae being utterly disinterested in voting ircher, and on grounds fae could easily ignore if needed (yin clear). and voting me, when it was blatantly obvious it won't go through? so like, i don't know, this slot confuses me.

- robert. i know i said his interactions with infinity are kinda -partner but my god this slot looks scummy as shit. i don't think there's a single genuine thought about solving the game anywhere in his iso. and the constant lurk-if-no-pressure / post-if-pressure pattern is Not Good.

I don't think Tanner writes this ^

if he's scum tbh

[Tanner]

i am ready to scream at any two of clidd/pooky/chara/amy that i need so that they vote for me, i write a "not hammering myself" post so that we can see flea's head explode. and theni'm hammering myself and getting out of here.

[Flea The Magician]

i am ready to scream at any two of clidd/pooky/chara/amy that i need so that they vote for me, i write a "not hammering myself" post so that we can see flea's head explode. and theni'm hammering myself and getting out of here.

I smell desperation.

[Tanner]

correct.

[Chara]

i am ready to scream at any two of clidd/pooky/chara/amy that i need so that they vote for me, i write a "not hammering myself" post so that we can see flea's head explode. and theni'm hammering myself and getting out of here.

i'll vote for you, but you'll need to suffer for a while longer because that's what i have to do and it's only fair.

and because i'm still doing work.

[Ydrasse]

i’m gonna kill your wagon by voting for myself tanner

[Flea The Magician]

[i wrote the following the morning after the flip. the norwee and ircher parts are kinda moot now, but i'm posting it anyway. will look at norwee's iso when it's not 2am. also uhhh, ircher buddy you okay there?]

i cannot stop thinking about this game, so i will make some notes. if i live to see day two, i will post this in the main thread. if not, i will post this in the dead thread. the order within tiers is kinda town>scum but also kind of not, idk.

town:

- tanner. don't @ me.

most likely town unless we're living in a fucked up world:

- ydrasse. while i was thinking her posts are pretty townie on its own, i don't think scum!her decides to bus infinity in 1744 after i made two (2) shitposts asking for infinity votes. she could've made some bullshit up about nakata. or about ircher. or about literally anyone. like, i *think* ydrasse is sometimes slightly bus happy, but lmfao what the fuck would this be. nah fam.

- norwee. similar story to ydrasse, i think his general solviness and energy are decently +town on their own, i similarly don't think he busses infinity in 1745 like that. town.

- amy. this one is not as strong as ydra/norwee because i don't have like, a *general* townread on her slot, but i still think that that infinity bus was not in any way necessary, especially as she was already angling to vote either nakata or ircher. so i don't think scum!amy does it.

- ircher. now this is not really based on his play (though that one wallpost was Decent i guess), but i believe the way infinity played around him *strongly* implies that he's town. so i already called out infinity for this in 1380, but look at this sequence. in 1218, ircher is at 5 votes, and infinity is egging his wagon on, but not voting him herself. ~18 hours later, ircher is at y-1, with it seeming like there's not way he's not getting yeeted. infinity jumps out of the void to suddenly defend ircher and say that she actually wants to kill nakata (1357, 1359). this is not scum defending their partner (unless they were going for the ultimate wifom defense). this is scum weakly defending a townie they thought was a lost cause for the towncred the next day. and then on page 70 she's magically fine with an ircher wagon again? if this truly was a 9000 iq distance that infinity knew i was gonna fall for, then mad props.

probably(?) town but like, i could be wrong:

- clidd. this one kinda pains me. he's here solely based on his play/wim, and the fact that i am very aware that town!clidd gets tunnelled on unimportant things and misses sort-of-obvious scum signs. like, his defense of infinity is Not Good, and that hammer makes me slightly anxious. but as said, on play he's town, so i'm just gonna hope he's town for now.

- pooky. now i am not that solid on this one because he did want ircher and shit, but i don't think he lets partner!infinity die like that. idk, i'm invoking the chara's folly tell again. i don't think pooky sits on the sidelines like that when his partner is going down like that.

- nakata. ctrl+f'ing "nakata" in infinity's iso, i don't think those are s/s. like, infinity was kind of continuously pushing nakata, and the posts i called infinity out for in 1380 imply to me that they're not aligned. also, i don't think that nakata not wanting to vote infinity because infinity will be readable later is actually scummy, as opposed to a townie caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. *however*, i'm putting it out there immediately that i have been fooled by a distance like the one i called out in 1380, so take this with a grain of salt. also, if i wake up to see ydrasse dead, i'm heavily looking at nakata and trying to sort him asap. (i'll be doing that if i'm alive regardless, because i feel like a decent amount of the game could be different depending on if nakata is scum or town, but you feel).

the poe:

- morning tweet. man, i want tweetie to be town, i really do. i'm not yet feeling the "tweetie is obvtown" feeling. and her interactions / play around infinity are... iffy at best. and i don't like the sit on ircher.

- chara. i'm not very certain on this, and it's mostly a nullread coupled with "its infinity vote made me raise an eyebrow" and some posts around her feeling "hmm". i haven't yet put too much thought into this, since sorting chara is probably Not Easy, and i don't like using up effort if i don't know if i'm gonna see tomorrow to present that effort. and i know "this person have stronk scumgaem so null" is an extremely annoying thing to hear (i lose my shit every time innocentvillager does it to me, even though more often than not it's a joke), so in advance i'm apologizing for doing that, but. yeah.

- flea. yikes, okay, what the fuck was that vote on me lmfao. anyway, something rings scummy-wrong about fae having infinity in faer scumpool for a long period of time but never voting her? however, something also rings townie-wrong in fae being utterly disinterested in voting ircher, and on grounds fae could easily ignore if needed (yin clear). and voting me, when it was blatantly obvious it won't go through? so like, i don't know, this slot confuses me.

- robert. i know i said his interactions with infinity are kinda -partner but my god this slot looks scummy as shit. i don't think there's a single genuine thought about solving the game anywhere in his iso. and the constant lurk-if-no-pressure / post-if-pressure pattern is Not Good.

I don't think Tanner writes this ^

if he's scum tbh

Pooky I've burned you with my high efforts before, and when I've gone deepwolf.
I know a wolf can write that.

[Flea The Magician]

i am ready to scream at any two of clidd/pooky/chara/amy that i need so that they vote for me, i write a "not hammering myself" post so that we can see flea's head explode. and theni'm hammering myself and getting out of here.

i'll vote for you, but you'll need to suffer for a while longer because that's what i have to do and it's only fair.

and because i'm still doing work.

No surprise here that you're willing to vote your PoE buddy.

[Chara]

yeah Tanner's big readlist is top tier, his stances this whole game have pretty much avoided ever pushing or even lowkey pushing scum. +he has been driven insane in real time

pedit: lmao yes that is it for sure. if Tanner is scum everything is fucked though so that is why he needs to be tortured for longer.

hope that's clear as a joke. i only mean it is actually useful.

[Chara]

i’m gonna kill your wagon by voting for myself tanner

and yet she has not!!

actually what are your reads rn Ydrasse?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky I've burned you with my high efforts before, and when I've gone deepwolf.I know a wolf can write that.

I know you can do it

I don't think Datisi can

[Tanner]

yeah Tanner's big readlist is top tier, his stances this whole game have pretty much avoided ever pushing or even lowkey pushing scum. +he has been driven insane in real time

i was the one who strongmanned the infy wagon through?

[Chara]

deep sigh. i used to be so careful about posting more... carefully on mafiascum. now it's just swearing and abbreviations.


pedit: you did??

[Chara]

this is why i need to reread. this is why i can't just make decisions on my memory. oh my god. i thought Infinity was Norwee + Ydrasse and Tanner was against it.

[Tanner]

yes? i had multiple manic fits when people were trsing to wagon ircher while infy was doing things that screamed scum to me??? like that's what made me lose my shit in the first place???

[Tanner]

trying to* this fucking keyboard

i was strongly in favour of both infinity and robert lmfao

[Flea The Magician]

*snerks*

use your PT, it'll be easier to get your stories straight. :3

[Chara]

i don't want to reread this entire game i really do not but i cannot be trusted to play without actually doing it.

pedit: i thought all of that freaking out was about Robert. in my mind that was 100% the reason.

[Morning Tweet]

The sooner we vote out Tanner the sooner flea can start playing and all of the pieces will fall into place for my tanner/ydrasse/pooky/flea town to win

[Chara]

yes? i had multiple manic fits when people were trsing to wagon ircher while infy was doing things that screamed scum to me??? like that's what made me lose my shit in the first place???

i'm sure this is correct and it does make sense, i guess i just... i don't know. i still think you're town but i have zero confidence in my ability to rely on past reads at this point.
clidd i did reread so i can be reasonably sure that one is fine.

pedit: fine, vote him out. it's fine.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

datisi can you do your famous triangle thing