Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

[Chara]

Robert's elim was a big deal. if there were 0 town elims we would need to elim 5 town, with Robert still in the game. scum clidd just doing that for towncred would be such an unnecessary risk.

[Tanner]

and this isn't how clidd deepwolves, is it... if he was scum, he's one of the designated deepwolves. and i seem to recall a game modded by schadd where he was scum and was the designated deepwolf and did posted like, a *lot* more (i only skimmed that game and it was really long ago so forgive if i'm off a bit) and this just... doesn't seem like it?

and i'm so confused now because when i was looking at votecounts of day 1 and some of his d1 posts and i was like "ok clidd is scum one down one to go" but now i want to die

my current "this is probably not it, but holy shit i will laugh if this is it" solve is flea/chara

chara, sorry i'm a lazy fuck, but did you go deeper into why tweetie is scum anywhere?

[clidd]

I got discouraged from the game. The change is quite evident if you compare my activity and engagement rn with days gone by.

[Tanner]

yes i know, and originally i thought you were scummy for it, but the placing around the robert wagon just makes no damn sense. and especially if you're scum here, i thinkyour partner would have to be ydra or tweetie because i highly doubt scum!you goes "fuck you fuck this let's spare these three townies" and gets his team into that mess

but if you're not scum who the fuck is

[Chara]

chara, sorry i'm a lazy fuck, but did you go deeper into why tweetie is scum anywhere?

i don't think there's a post where i case her or anything, i've been talking about things i'm not sure about from town!her this game day, but the reason i was worried about Tweetie specifically was her involved Robert defense. which at the time i also did agree with so it's not like i can't see where town Tweet would be coming from.
i also thought her stances this game were in general helpful to scum given the new context, but i'm not putting stock into this until i reread her to be sure where she was actually pushing.

[Tanner]

like my reads on ydra/tweetie weren't even based around on flips, they were moreso based around my prior exp with them, the mindmelds, the way they approached my slot etc and uuuuugh

if the above is right, then it's between pooky/chara/flea and like nothing makes sense there either

maybe i should start talking after i've reviewed pooky i don't have much faith there

[Tanner]

i actually have a crack theory on flea/chara it's that bad

[clidd]

yes i know, and originally i thought you were scummy for it, but the placing around the robert wagon just makes no damn sense. and especially if you're scum here, i thinkyour partner would have to be ydra or tweetie because i highly doubt scum!you goes "fuck you fuck this let's spare these three townies" and gets his team into that mess

but if you're not scum who the fuck is

No idea, lol.

Maybe Flea by PoE + someone who's doing an amazing scum game.

[Chara]

that and she's really happy with the status quo this game day and doesn't seem like she has the curiousity about scum, like i haven't seen anything about why her scumreads are scum besides PoE, and the Pooky push, i believe is in her town meta but the fact she's so aware of it and apparently did that on purpose (?) i don't know, it feels like something she has the ability to have faked. what i don't know if she could fake is the energy she's put into this game. if she is scum i do think her play is higher level than it had been in the past. i don't actually have the games to compare to, this is just the assumption thay Tweetie doesn't blatantly lie about her past games.

[Chara]

i actually have a crack theory on flea/chara it's that bad

and yet in spite of myself i kind of want to hear it.

[Chara]

Tweetie isn't even the only player who's reads haven't changed much, i think that's actually most of the game, barring Pooky iirc who wanted to reset. it caught my attention but i don't know if it's indicative. if i'm completely wrong i feel like i can figure that out, though. i'd just prefer she wasn't the first elim.

[clidd]

Meh, I'm going to make a move to help the game overall.

[Tanner]

i actually have a crack theory on flea/chara it's that bad

and yet in spite of myself i kind of want to hear it.

ok so this is not exactly my current thoughts, more like a universe i am considering, but:

so first of all, flea's play this game didn't make sense to me at all. and i'm not talking the mech stuff, i'm talking the votepark on me on d1 and then votepark on nakata and it's all odd. however i think it makes at least some sense if we assume/guess that flea was one of the people that was destined to fall early rather than infinity or nakata. if it seems like fae was consistently trying to single me out, it's not far fetched that someone thinks of us as psrtners. especially since i wasn't exactly attacking fae in return, which could easily be swept as scum wifom. (i mean almost anything can be but you know what i mean.)

the thing that i found really *really* odd is that flea never voted chara even though chara fit the bill of criminal, *and* chara was lower in faer reads than i was. this was excused by flea saying that fae usually doesn't have much faith in faer reads, but it still feels... backwards??

i can't say that flea refusing to play the game is completely scum!indicative bc apparently they're capable of playing it properly as scum so idk.

(sidenote i just realized, pooky said that no? and yet wasn't he on clidd's ass for not providing reads saying that that is scum!indicative but giving flea a pass for that? idk a note to check that later)

but like, i can kind of see flea's plan here of oppose my yeet, then once it happens anyway, do a 180 and push chara through?

actually as i type that out i'm slightly less convinced that that is the case because if that happened, i'm not sure flea gets out of here, but my earlier points of "flea wanting to murder me for being a criminal but completely ignoring chara in that regard" is still valid i think

somewhere along the way this turned into a "hey maybe the team is pooky/flea" but uh i will think about that later, i'm going for a walk now, enjoy this wordvomit i guess

[Chara]

i think that happened because Flea missed the answers that confirmed me as a criminal, so you were conf and i was just likely. i think that's what fae said when this came up, anyway.

[Chara]

and fae is capable of playing as scum, faer scumgame is good. if this is a scum ploy it means something went very wrong or fae was purposely going for the refuge in audacity angle for some reason.

[clidd]

Meh, I'm going to make a move to help the game overall.

Maybe later. I'm busy now.

[Flea The Magician]

i actually have a crack theory on flea/chara it's that bad

and yet in spite of myself i kind of want to hear it.

ok so this is not exactly my current thoughts, more like a universe i am considering, but:

so first of all, flea's play this game didn't make sense to me at all. and i'm not talking the mech stuff, i'm talking the votepark on me on d1 and then votepark on nakata and it's all odd. however i think it makes at least some sense if we assume/guess that flea was one of the people that was destined to fall early rather than infinity or nakata. if it seems like fae was consistently trying to single me out, it's not far fetched that someone thinks of us as psrtners. especially since i wasn't exactly attacking fae in return, which could easily be swept as scum wifom. (i mean almost anything can be but you know what i mean.)

the thing that i found really *really* odd is that flea never voted chara even though chara fit the bill of criminal, *and* chara was lower in faer reads than i was. this was excused by flea saying that fae usually doesn't have much faith in faer reads, but it still feels... backwards??

i can't say that flea refusing to play the game is completely scum!indicative bc apparently they're capable of playing it properly as scum so idk.

(sidenote i just realized, pooky said that no? and yet wasn't he on clidd's ass for not providing reads saying that that is scum!indicative but giving flea a pass for that? idk a note to check that later)

but like, i can kind of see flea's plan here of oppose my yeet, then once it happens anyway, do a 180 and push chara through?

actually as i type that out i'm slightly less convinced that that is the case because if that happened, i'm not sure flea gets out of here, but my earlier points of "flea wanting to murder me for being a criminal but completely ignoring chara in that regard" is still valid i think

somewhere along the way this turned into a "hey maybe the team is pooky/flea" but uh i will think about that later, i'm going for a walk now, enjoy this wordvomit i guess

Congratulations you made a scumcase on a person who is designated to not be yeet from this.

[Flea The Magician]

and fae is capable of playing as scum, faer scumgame is good. if this is a scum ploy it means something went very wrong or fae was purposely going for the refuge in audacity angle for some reason.

I am a capable, adaptive and reflexive thinker, if I'm scum here and things went sideways, I go ALL OUT and powerwall to recover.

[Morning Tweet]

@Tweetie - you mentioned before about your battery draining much faster as scum. i am inclined to believe you on that.

i don't know how to feel about you doing something because you know it's hard to fake. like i see what you're saying re; actively trying to look town, but are you doing it on purpose or does the rapidfire off the cuff read thing come naturally? i don't see how you could do that purposefully.

Its basically stream of consciousness

I'm posting whatever comes into my head. I could restrain it and I certainly do sometimes, but the point is I cant do it as scum so I let myself go off more as town

the confidence thing (like when I confidently told flea I dont think scum is set up for this phase) is just off of what I'm feeling right now -- it could change eith a reread but I have no issue making takes as they come cause I dont really need to care about consistency, how I come off, or trying to have an agenda

[Flea The Magician]

You'll be eating those words when Tanner flips red

[Morning Tweet]

pretty sure i have brought up clidd's Robert hammer already and something really weird for scum clidd to do there. like, his play has not fit the scum agenda and that is kind of important, Tweetie's ignoring that because it doesn't matter to her solving is why i'm so worried about her slot right now.

idk I kind of forgot about that

I already know scum made one mistake: not having Nakata detonate ircher as he died.

It's easier for me to buy clidd making a mistake or trying to look good in the future (He might not have read the gamestate around the robert wagon the same as we are rn) thqn it is for me to believe like Tanner or Ydrasse contains a wolf

[Morning Tweet]

You'll be eating those words when Tanner flips red

as will you when he flips green

[Morning Tweet]

and this isn't how clidd deepwolves, is it... if he was scum, he's one of the designated deepwolves. and i seem to recall a game modded by schadd where he was scum and was the designated deepwolf and did posted like, a *lot* more (i only skimmed that game and it was really long ago so forgive if i'm off a bit) and this just... doesn't seem like it?

and i'm so confused now because when i was looking at votecounts of day 1 and some of his d1 posts and i was like "ok clidd is scum one down one to go" but now i want to die

my current "this is probably not it, but holy shit i will laugh if this is it" solve is flea/chara

chara, sorry i'm a lazy fuck, but did you go deeper into why tweetie is scum anywhere?

Clidd would definitely be one of the designated late game wolves -- you're correct he was that in the schadd game

I thought clidds effort D1 was really good personally. I townread him a ton

[Morning Tweet]

that and she's really happy with the status quo this game day and doesn't seem like she has the curiousity about scum, like i haven't seen anything about why her scumreads are scum besides PoE, and the Pooky push, i believe is in her town meta but the fact she's so aware of it and apparently did that on purpose (?) i don't know, it feels like something she has the ability to have faked. what i don't know if she could fake is the energy she's put into this game. if she is scum i do think her play is higher level than it had been in the past. i don't actually have the games to compare to, this is just the assumption thay Tweetie doesn't blatantly lie about her past games.

It feels like a game of who is town outside of the top three to me, I suppose that's why I feel decent

Granted, there is still the possibility I'm being fooled. You and Flea have made me pause a ton. I thought Pooky was town pretty hard yesterday. But theres TWO scum left. It's kinda strange

I seriously am going to be stunned if Tanner is scum man

[Morning Tweet]

i think that happened because Flea missed the answers that confirmed me as a criminal, so you were conf and i was just likely. i think that's what fae said when this came up, anyway.

That's correct I asked abt that earlier I believe