Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

Ydrasse · Post Post #3375 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:27 pm

also if you were actually paranoid about me this would have been closer to the reveal of the wincon

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3376 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:27 pm

In post 3372, Ydrasse wrote:i've started getting this sinking feeling that you are because you're going after me and given the fact that amy townreads you the second most and puts a lot of stock in you not doing things as scum (which i do still disagree with) it feels like the best chance you have is to go after me right now because if you're scum your partner couldn't do it. and taking out me who i think is pretty solidly a confirmed slot to leave in the moment does wonders for you to win. that and i think the things that you're saying about my game making me bad are things that aren't actually bad

if you think scum me tries to get you left behind you don't have any idea how I play trust fall type games as scum.

I usually try to get townies out and target down LHFs. I don't go after the highest townread player.

Ydrasse · Post Post #3377 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:28 pm

and also the fact that you literally watched me play a setup where the goal was to be the towniest player and you haven’t seemed phased by that or like..: done anything with the knowledge of it

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3378 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:29 pm

In post 3375, Ydrasse wrote:also if you were actually paranoid about me this would have been closer to the reveal of the wincon

?

what do you mean?

I had no reason to be paranoid of you until the wincon was revealed.

The reasons I'm using right now are all counter intuitive based on D1 play with the knowledge of what the scum wincon truly was.

I wouldn't have any reason to suspect you prior to this wincon reveal.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3379 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:29 pm

In post 3377, Ydrasse wrote:and also the fact that you literally watched me play a setup where the goal was to be the towniest player and you haven’t seemed phased by that or like..: done anything with the knowledge of it

?

I don't understand this line, what's your reasoning?

Ydrasse · Post Post #3380 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:30 pm

In post 3376, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3372, Ydrasse wrote:i've started getting this sinking feeling that you are because you're going after me and given the fact that amy townreads you the second most and puts a lot of stock in you not doing things as scum (which i do still disagree with) it feels like the best chance you have is to go after me right now because if you're scum your partner couldn't do it. and taking out me who i think is pretty solidly a confirmed slot to leave in the moment does wonders for you to win. that and i think the things that you're saying about my game making me bad are things that aren't actually bad
if you think scum me tries to get you left behind you don't have any idea how I play trust fall type games as scum.

I usually try to get townies out and target down LHFs. I don't go after the highest townread player.

you only need one person to trust you in trust fall

in this game you’re trying to get everyone to trust you and your partner more than the towniest people, and i’m gonna assume you’re not partnered with mt/tanner, so like of course you don’t get to play this setup like trust fall? what?

Ydrasse · Post Post #3381 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:30 pm

In post 3378, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3375, Ydrasse wrote:also if you were actually paranoid about me this would have been closer to the reveal of the wincon
?

what do you mean?

I had no reason to be paranoid of you until the wincon was revealed.

The reasons I'm using right now are all counter intuitive based on D1 play with the knowledge of what the scum wincon truly was.

I wouldn't have any reason to suspect you prior to this wincon reveal.

yes i’m saying the start of day would’ve been like, an oh god moment for you not before it

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3382 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:31 pm

In post 3374, Ydrasse wrote:i’m going to be the first to admit i don’t remember what you were doing early game pooky but i also have the sense you’re only now kicking it into gear by going after everyone

I am not going after everyone.

I am going over the D1 wagons on Robert/Ircher which fizzled out and reading what happened, who was for, and who was against.

You and Clidd feel very bad to me based on my re-read whereas Datisi/Tweet feel very town to me. I've cited the screenshots that show my line of thinking.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3383 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:32 pm

In post 3381, Ydrasse wrote:yes i’m saying the start of day would’ve been like, an oh god moment for you not before it

?

You mean yesterday(Sunday) ?

I was at the beach and I didn't have access to a computer, that's why I said repeatedly that you guys shouldn't rush and should let me get a chance to re-read.

I got back home and as very tired so I slept. Then I had time this evening for my re-read.

Ydrasse · Post Post #3384 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:32 pm

In post 3379, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3377, Ydrasse wrote:and also the fact that you literally watched me play a setup where the goal was to be the towniest player and you haven’t seemed phased by that or like..: done anything with the knowledge of it
?

I don't understand this line, what's your reasoning?

“huh, a setup where scum are trying to look town. i got bodied in this game by someone who i suspect whose goal in that game was to be... a scum who looks town”

there’s a disconnect between your experiences with me and what you’re suggesting to the thread and given that no one else in this game was in that idk why you don’t recall this

Ydrasse · Post Post #3385 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:33 pm

In post 3382, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3374, Ydrasse wrote:i’m going to be the first to admit i don’t remember what you were doing early game pooky but i also have the sense you’re only now kicking it into gear by going after everyone
I am not going after everyone.

I am going over the D1 wagons on Robert/Ircher which fizzled out and reading what happened, who was for, and who was against.

You and Clidd feel very bad to me based on my re-read whereas Datisi/Tweet feel very town to me. I've cited the screenshots that show my line of thinking.

mt + me + clidd so far, even if you were being silly about it with the former

Ydrasse · Post Post #3386 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:34 pm

In post 3383, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3381, Ydrasse wrote:yes i’m saying the start of day would’ve been like, an oh god moment for you not before it
?

You mean yesterday(Sunday) ?

I was at the beach and I didn't have access to a computer, that's why I said repeatedly that you guys shouldn't rush and should let me get a chance to re-read.

I got back home and as very tired so I slept. Then I had time this evening for my re-read.

okay it’s just that you were actually around so i feel like you would have had some mental connection between point a and b but that’s just how i react even if i’m out i think about stuff

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3387 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:34 pm

In post 3380, Ydrasse wrote:you only need one person to trust you in trust fall

in this game you’re trying to get everyone to trust you and your partner more than the towniest people, and i’m gonna assume you’re not partnered with mt/tanner, so like of course you don’t get to play this setup like trust fall? what?

In Trust Fall as well as this game, the only thing the scum have to do is make sure the bottom 2 least trusted people are town.

I don't have to make anyone doubt you to win, I can just target the LHFs in this town if I am scum. For example, Clidd/Chara/Flea are all easier targets for scum!me than you. Even if you assume one of them is my partner, I can simply target the other two.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3388 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:36 pm

In post 3386, Ydrasse wrote:okay it’s just that you were actually around so i feel like you would have had some mental connection between point a and b but that’s just how i react even if i’m out i think about stuff

Day 1 was a long time ago and my mind was not focused on looking for this type of thing so I would have no reason to mentally note it.

That's why I said I needed time to reset and do a full re-read of everything that's happened in this game since now I know what the actual win condition the bad guys have is.

The fact that nobody else is doing a reset and seem to be ok just rushing this day through is kind of ringing alarm bells in my ears.

The entire game just changed yesterday and im like the only one curious about what we missed.

People are just trying to rush for the exits instead of actually playing the game.

Ydrasse · Post Post #3389 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:37 pm

In post 3387, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3380, Ydrasse wrote:you only need one person to trust you in trust fall

in this game you’re trying to get everyone to trust you and your partner more than the towniest people, and i’m gonna assume you’re not partnered with mt/tanner, so like of course you don’t get to play this setup like trust fall? what?
In Trust Fall as well as this game, the only thing the scum have to do is make sure the bottom 2 least trusted people are town.

I don't have to make anyone doubt you to win, I can just target the LHFs in this town if I am scum. For example, Clidd/Chara/Flea are all easier targets for scum!me than you. Even if you assume one of them is my partner, I can simply target the other two.

oh your partner is chara

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3390 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:38 pm

In post 3385, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 3382, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3374, Ydrasse wrote:i’m going to be the first to admit i don’t remember what you were doing early game pooky but i also have the sense you’re only now kicking it into gear by going after everyone
I am not going after everyone.

I am going over the D1 wagons on Robert/Ircher which fizzled out and reading what happened, who was for, and who was against.

You and Clidd feel very bad to me based on my re-read whereas Datisi/Tweet feel very town to me. I've cited the screenshots that show my line of thinking.
mt + me + clidd so far, even if you were being silly about it with the former

no I am not going after MT.

I in fact said in my re-read that she was +++town for moving her vote from the (4)-vote Nakata wagon to the (3)-vote Ircher wagon and making Ircher the lead wagon, this caused Ircher to go to 6 and was the first real threat the scum faced all game after Robert hit 4.

Amy Dunne · Post Post #3391 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:38 pm

UNVOTE:

I’m torn between voting Pooky and wanting to keep him around to help solve this game.

Ydrasse · Post Post #3392 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:39 pm

if nobody else is resetting that majority is still nobody and people /are/ reconsidering. it’s just that we’re coming to the same conclusions because they’re what’s obvious

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3393 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:39 pm

In post 3389, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 3387, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3380, Ydrasse wrote:you only need one person to trust you in trust fall

in this game you’re trying to get everyone to trust you and your partner more than the towniest people, and i’m gonna assume you’re not partnered with mt/tanner, so like of course you don’t get to play this setup like trust fall? what?
In Trust Fall as well as this game, the only thing the scum have to do is make sure the bottom 2 least trusted people are town.

I don't have to make anyone doubt you to win, I can just target the LHFs in this town if I am scum. For example, Clidd/Chara/Flea are all easier targets for scum!me than you. Even if you assume one of them is my partner, I can simply target the other two.
oh your partner is chara

Kind of having trouble believing you believe any of what you're saying to me at this point.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3394 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:40 pm

In post 3392, Ydrasse wrote:if nobody else is resetting that majority is still nobody and people /are/ reconsidering. it’s just that we’re coming to the same conclusions because they’re what’s obvious

who else is re-reading?

I feel like I'm the only one going through what happened D1 ?

Everyone else feels like they just want to stay static in their views and just get out of the game?

Ydrasse · Post Post #3395 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:40 pm

In post 3393, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3389, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 3387, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3380, Ydrasse wrote:you only need one person to trust you in trust fall

in this game you’re trying to get everyone to trust you and your partner more than the towniest people, and i’m gonna assume you’re not partnered with mt/tanner, so like of course you don’t get to play this setup like trust fall? what?
In Trust Fall as well as this game, the only thing the scum have to do is make sure the bottom 2 least trusted people are town.

I don't have to make anyone doubt you to win, I can just target the LHFs in this town if I am scum. For example, Clidd/Chara/Flea are all easier targets for scum!me than you. Even if you assume one of them is my partner, I can simply target the other two.
oh your partner is chara
Kind of having trouble believing you believe any of what you're saying to me at this point.

i don’t believe that it’s tanner/mt/probably not flea

you don’t bus anyways and you can’t at this point so clidds out

i think that it’s an easy conclusion to reach

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3396 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:40 pm

In post 3391, Amy Dunne wrote:UNVOTE:

I’m torn between voting Pooky and wanting to keep him around to help solve this game.

I'm fine being last townie out, I'm here to play not to leave.

Ydrasse · Post Post #3397 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:41 pm

In post 3394, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3392, Ydrasse wrote:if nobody else is resetting that majority is still nobody and people /are/ reconsidering. it’s just that we’re coming to the same conclusions because they’re what’s obvious
who else is re-reading?

I feel like I'm the only one going through what happened D1 ?

Everyone else feels like they just want to stay static in their views and just get out of the game?

mt wants to but hasn’t yet / is busy
i want to but haven’t yet / is busy
tanner has been

like you keep saying that everyone’s staying static like it’s a bad thing that their minds aren’t changing to include you 100% of the time

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3398 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:42 pm

In post 3395, Ydrasse wrote:i don’t believe that it’s tanner/mt/probably not flea

you don’t bus anyways and you can’t at this point so clidds out

i think that it’s an easy conclusion to reach

You don't think I try to get my partner out of the game?

Ydrasse · Post Post #3399 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:43 pm

In post 3390, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3385, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 3382, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3374, Ydrasse wrote:i’m going to be the first to admit i don’t remember what you were doing early game pooky but i also have the sense you’re only now kicking it into gear by going after everyone
I am not going after everyone.

I am going over the D1 wagons on Robert/Ircher which fizzled out and reading what happened, who was for, and who was against.

You and Clidd feel very bad to me based on my re-read whereas Datisi/Tweet feel very town to me. I've cited the screenshots that show my line of thinking.
mt + me + clidd so far, even if you were being silly about it with the former
no I am not going after MT.

I in fact said in my re-read that she was +++town for moving her vote from the (4)-vote Nakata wagon to the (3)-vote Ircher wagon and making Ircher the lead wagon, this caused Ircher to go to 6 and was the first real threat the scum faced all game after Robert hit 4.

you literally did an entire spiel towards her yesterday going ARE YOU SCUM hello?