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[ssbm_Kyouko]

Because I think the reasoning has never been there for you to TR them unless it is based on our fight being TvT, in which case i am also town in your eyes, and that I make a compelling case for scum!S&M, but they dont do the same for scum!me.

Why do you think I'm scum?
(Going to bed soon)

[Something_Smart]

What do you mean the reasoning has never been there? I summed it up in 1614.

I think you're scum because I am confident S&M is town and they are confident marci is town (and I mostly agree with their reasoning).

[ssbm_Kyouko]

What do you mean the reasoning has never been there? I summed it up in 1614.

I think you're scum because I am confident S&M is town and they are confident marci is town (and I mostly agree with their reasoning).

POE isn't enough today, if you were going to vote me for POE reasons and you were town you would have done it at daystart. As scum you'd be afraid to move too early.

S&M's reason to think Marci is town is the cop crumb that you posted. And just moments ago you were saying you don't buy into that crumb necessarily. So now when it is convenient for your POE you do?

Nancy tends to play pretty agenda-based when she's scum and she's not afraid to get into shitfights with people.

You dont think the Distance NK is an agenda-driven kill that discredits my double bus theory? Yoi dont think that what I and S&M have been doing most of toDay and all of D2 was shitfighting? I read your reasoning to TR Nancy for not doing what scum!Nancy does, but her play this game fits with your own description of scum!Nancy's meta. I think your TR on her is faked and your/Gamma's long term plan was to tow townblock with the S&M hydra and use Nancy's loud voice as cover so you didnt have to do any of your own mislimming

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Going to bed

[Something_Smart]

POE isn't enough today, if you were going to vote me for POE reasons and you were town you would have done it at daystart. As scum you'd be afraid to move too early.

If only there were a progression making it clear that I wasn't aware that Nancy had marci as locktown at the beginning of the day (if she even did, I feel like she probably didn't).

[Gypyx]

votecount 6.3

Smoke and Mirrors (0)
ssbm_Kyouko (1) - Something_Smart
Something_Smart (0)
marcistar (0)
No elimination (2) - ssbm_Kyouko - Smoke And Mirrors

not voting (1) - Marcistar

day 6 ends in (expired on 2021-07-20 14:35:14)

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Progression is a stretch - you've changed your stance, yes, but it seems like it's only because you've been forced to. No new information or interpretation of information has come out - but you're clearing her now because S&M is. It doesn't look like a progression, but a flip-flop

[Something_Smart]

I mean, it's a sheep...

[marcistar]

hmm i do remember thinking it was weird how gamma claimed the gf bid.. maybe something_smart is scum..?
i dont know how either ssbm_kyouko or something_smart plays as scum tho what if im geting played aa

[Something_Smart]

I mean... I'm obviously biased, but it seems pretty clear from this side of the pond. For me to be scum I would have had to do XYZ weird and suboptimal plays (and while I do love weird plays as scum, I would never do a suboptimal one like trading claims with AD's unaccounted for without any tangible benefit in mind) and also decide it's a good idea to guilty my partner for shits and giggles.

Whereas, for ssbm to be scum she has to... not have made the kill on one night.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

me and nancy talked a lot and now we think its SS

VOTE: SS

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Basically she thinks there's no way Town!SS blindly sheeps us no matter what.

and she thinks his recent posts feel super scummy

[marcistar]

VOTE: something_smart

[Smoke and Mirrors]

votecount 6.3

Smoke and Mirrors (0)
ssbm_Kyouko (1) - Something_Smart
Something_Smart (0)
marcistar (0)
No elimination (2) - ssbm_Kyouko - Smoke And Mirrors

not voting (1) - Marcistar

day 6 ends in (expired on 2021-07-20 14:35:14)

We might be too late but lim SS tomorrow.

[Something_Smart]

Basically she thinks there's no way Town!SS blindly sheeps us no matter what.

In what context? Before my V/LA, or after?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Basically she thinks there's no way Town!SS blindly sheeps us no matter what.

In what context? Before my V/LA, or after?

You were extremely opinionated in micro game. I don’t recall you sheeping anyone.

And Mastina would have only tracked you and Gamma - either of you she believed to be a buddy with VFP.

And when I initially tried to flip the votes to save you, your first choice was Distance.

[Something_Smart]

Sorry, I just typed something I would probably regret saying and then backspaced it. But that's incredibly stupid. Sheeping people I trust is my MO as town, especially since I hate making decisions and will go to great lengths to abdicate responsibility for them.

[Something_Smart]

You were extremely opinionated in micro game. I don’t recall you sheeping anyone.

That's a one game sample size, and there was really nobody to be sheeping there...

[Something_Smart]

Like what is your basis for saying that. I can either continue to argue with you over a menial detail that probably doesn't matter when deadline is looming, or I can accept that if marci is scum she fooled you and take the highest probability course to win. You really think I would do the former as town?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Pedit: I think it's weird to point it out as town if you don't put stock into it originally. I remember feeling on rereading you that it felt like you wanted to contribute something by pointing it out, but at the same time didnt want Marci absolutely cleared by it.

You don't remember the context under which I brought it up? We were talking about marci gravedigging Distance, so it was a highly relevant conditional. I always put 100% stock into the statement "If Distance had the cop, then they had an inno on marci" but there was no reason then to believe that Distance had the cop.

Well we would know for sure had he either not died or had Marci been able to gravedig him. Why wasn’t there? Marci said Kitty didn’t have it and then he softs an inno on her, then is the next nk.

[Something_Smart]

And when I initially tried to flip the votes to save you, your first choice was Distance.

Yes and what? Why do you think scum me would try to kill Distance and then tell everyone that they had inno'd Marci?

[Something_Smart]

Why wasn’t there?

Because jumping to conclusions is bad??

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Sorry, I just typed something I would probably regret saying and then backspaced it. But that's incredibly stupid. Sheeping people I trust is my MO as town, especially since I hate making decisions and will go to great lengths to abdicate responsibility for them.

When did you ever do that in micro? I recall you had very strong opinions on reads.

[Something_Smart]

Like if you want to talk about things I would or wouldn't do as whatever alignment

Why do I spend 499 on godfather when I know the cop is dead and then get my partner to claim it (opening us BOTH up to AD)? In what world is THAT a smart play? I'm better than that as scum.

[Something_Smart]

When did you ever do that in micro? I recall you had very strong opinions on reads.

I literally said "if Pooky is town he's never going to change his mind on me so I might as well assume he's scum"

Exact same logic as "if marci is scum S&M are never going to change their minds on her so I might as well assume she's town"

It's the exact same thing, and I use this kind of logic all the time.