Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

[Tanner]

re 3347: pooky, i did not remember that post at all, and reading past!me talking about how ydra is being very weird in not wanting to vote robert and thinking they're aligned is not doing good things to my mental health right now. i'll check the context, hold on.

ok, it was the fight with nakata, where nakata was like "we should flip robert he's flipping anyway" and ydrasse was like "no you're scum". now that nakata altslipped, i feel like i can add some context here (as i knew who he was at the time) - that mindset is very *very* much within his town!meta. which is why i said that if robert was scum, i'd consider nakata locktown, because i really really do not believe he does that to a partner. of course, it would be unfair to scumread ydrasse over not knowing meta when she potentially didn't know who nakata was (and i say potentially because i know nakata has a habit of revealing his alts to scumbuddies), but. jesus fuck i am actually thinking that that interaction could be fake pooky whaT HAVE YOU DONE

(note i didn't read the huge wall ydra posted while i was typing)

[clidd]

this game is cursed, i'm also very sick suddenly now and it's miserable. i hope you guys feel a little better soon, with the knowledge that depression doesn't just clear up like a stomach bug does.

@Tweetie: i know it's possible he's just scum who made a bad call, that's why i'm not saying i want to sentence him rn, but it's significant to me and felt it like no one was really considering it, Pooky did not even know the number of town we need to sentence now initially.

@clidd why change to Ydrasse now?

I thought a wagon on Pooky wasn't going anywhere, but maybe there's some hope.

[Tanner]

i do think you've expressed certain emotions that you can't fake as scum (or maybe you could actually? the only time i've seen you do it i think was theater in that one normal game)

^^ this is the part i'm most interested in when you're feeling better again. my memory (both of this game and of 2175) is a bit hazy currently, but i really wanna see you elaborate on this, because i do remember 2175 as a game where i lost my nerves a couple of times in the main thread.

and re the last part: you're absolutely right that i would definitely *not* want to be on the deepwolfing side of the scumteam. but like, in all of my scumgames i'm either alive in the endgame with buddies or i'm the last scum standing (and in the two games where that wasn't the case, the game was going wrong in every way possible and the entire team fell apart after my slot died). so uh, this is obviously based on speculation of an alternate universe, but i really don't think that me being here should be a cause to townread me, because i somehow just always end up in that role as scum.

part of me is wondering if this read angle of townreading me is just supposed to be a pocket, considering you didn't really mention it before, and i have fallen off a bit recently (though it's not ai, i'm genuinely feeling like shit, but for the argument) and i'm kinda hmming but maybe i'm tunneling my own paranoia, i'll reread this again tomorrow

[Tanner]

clidd, what's your solve again? you seem willing to vote like, 4 people here.

[Ydrasse]

the emotions i recall vividly from that game are you being very irritated/angry but knowing now that /that/ sort of thing you do fake; i was using it as a a gauge of, "i don't think he does the smaller irritations and petty things"; there was one post it hinka bout voting robert ? or infinity d1 that was what i was using as a good baseline for "things tanner doesn't need to post if scum at all and runs the risk of being seen as fake if he doesn't /actually/ feel those things"

i also do think i have mentioned at least part of this before? the emotional aspect i'm positive i have because that's like, one of the main pins in how i read people

[Ydrasse]

clidd seems apathetic but idk if it's really fun if he's got slim odds of actually getting voted which is worse if he is scum..

[Tanner]

the emotions i recall vividly from that game are you being very irritated/angry but knowing now that /that/ sort of thing you do fake; i was using it as a a gauge of, "i don't think he does the smaller irritations and petty things"; there was one post it hinka bout voting robert ? or infinity d1 that was what i was using as a good baseline for "things tanner doesn't need to post if scum at all and runs the risk of being seen as fake if he doesn't /actually/ feel those things"

i also do think i have mentioned at least part of this before? the emotional aspect i'm positive i have because that's like, one of the main pins in how i read people

i'm gonna need like, actual links. it's fine if you don't feel like it right now, i'm not in the state to process it either.

and yeah, the last part was about the "tanner wouldn't willingly torture himself by going to the Stage Two" read. the more i think about it, the more it sounds like a read you slap on because it sounds cool and fancy, but again, trying not to jump to conclusions here.

[Ydrasse]

ahhh

yeah i haven't mentioned it at all because it doesn't have a lot of ~substance~ but i'm posting the things that don't have as much right now and it does influence my impression of you this game. it's not the thing i'm betting on to win tho

[Ydrasse]

basically me playing mafia is an exercise in 'i think a lot of things and never post them' and then i gamethrow

[Tanner]

i just spent 15 minutes typing up a post about nakata not being destined to be one of the Fallen Wolves and what that meant for the grand scheme of things and then i reread it and realized it made absolutely no sense lmao i wanna die

[Tanner]

What I don’t understand why Tanner is in such a damn hurry to be sentenced here? We have 5 townies to choose from excludng me, so why is Tanner so eager to be eliminated first?

i'm awful town in endgames. i can give links if needed - i have literally never won a town lylo where i was the deciding vote or where i wasn't in a 1v1 with someone. the longer i am alive, the bigger the odds the town loses, it's that simple. especially in a clusterfuck theme game like this where i am very aware that my reads are garbage.

god, reading 3430 is annoying. "i don't think scum!ydrasse rams through an infinity flip because she would know she needs to look good post-reveal... but also tanner is totally scum lol" like have you even seen why infinity wagon ended up being a thing???

I’ve never ever played with scum!Datisi but I’ve never been really suspicious of him in any of my games where he’s been town and at a gut level, I am very suspicious of him here. It’s of course possible I’m wrong but him being so hellbent on being the first one sentenced or not wanting us to lim Ydrasse because she’s tr him, just worry me.

wrong. i am pretty certain you thought i was scum and voted me out in quasi-lylo of krazy's post apoc upick. and i wanna ask what is it that's making you suspicious of me and i have a feeling the only response you'll have is "gut because you were obvtown in [this one town game] and you're not here" and holy fuck i want to headdesk every time i hear that nonsense

[Tanner]

like i'm rereading the above post and i am genuinely annoyed because the main reason why i was considering myself to be obvtown here is because i single handedly turned the wagon onto infinity

and when the infinity flip was gonna get posted, it was the middle of the night for me and i was tired but i stayed up to wait for it and when i saw she was scum i was so happy i couldn't sleep because my mind kept working on the game so when i finally fell asleep the first thing i did when waking up was jot down the wallpost that i posted at the start of day 2

and when clidd was reevaling me or whatever i cited that event as the reason why i am town because again i never ever fucking bus a partner like that

and then hectic said the game is actually backwards which means my towncred for forcing infinity through is just fucking *gone* and

and then amy has the nerve to say "ydrasse is town because she wouldn't have rammed infinity through like that and also i totally think tanner is scum" like the fuck

[Tanner]

and yes before you ask i am aware that pissing off the conftown who doesn't wanna listen to me anyway is stupid but congrats being pushed throughout the whole game on that criminal bullshit is taking its toll

you may all now collectively go "would scum!tanner purposefully piss of the conftown for the wifom" because the answer is probably yes

[Tanner]

flea said fae has a "plan b" for if i flip town or something right? has that been presented yet?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I mean i'm kinda townreading you for the angry way you snapped and robert and the way you were like ripping your hair out when all of us told you no fucking way when you wanted that cat dead on D1.

the wall post also reads too high effort to come from scum you but it's not as big of a factor imo.

[Tanner]

i think scum!me (knowing the wincons) would at some point leave robert be, be like "ok fine but i still think he's scum), and then we get to Stage Two and i can be like "lol we are never ever fucking yeeting robert here" because i love lhf townies bc arguing with them is a good way to eat up thread space and appear like i'm doing something

ofc self meta etc

i think i've done a similarish-ly effort post a few times in my life as scum but eh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Tanner i swear to you if you are town I will get your ass out of this god accursed pit come hell or high water

[Tanner]

There is absolutely no reason for a town tanner to be nervous right now.
If tanners town and knows my read is bad, he dismisses it.

this gives me a headache this read is so surface level it's sad

"tanner is scum because he's survivalistic" "tanner is scum because he is nervous" like this is genuinely such level zero thinking, why the fuck are you pretending like you know anything about me or the way i play?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

starting tonight's re-read from here:



Let's revisit what went wrong with this Ircher wagon

[Tanner]

Tanner i swear to you if you are town I will get your ass out of this god accursed pit come hell or high water

i love you but with (by my count last time i checked) 5 out of 6 non-me non-amy people townreading me, knowing there's at least one scum in there (and my luck would have it two) i know there is scum townreading me which means someone is pocketing me and i have no idea who and it's making me look at every single post @ me with suspicion and agkjdfj i hate this game

at some point i stopped trying to do my tanner-posting-style i am bad at alting

[Tanner]

i'm at the top of page 140 it's 15 past 5am there's light outside and birds are singing i'm going to sleep for a bit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

MINOR DETAILS

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

AHAHAHAHAHA

DO YOU REMEMBER THIS POST TANNER!??!



W I L D

[Tanner]

WHAT THE FUCK

NO

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

9 townies 4 jesters

9 - 5 = 4 = parity

roooooofl