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[ManateeDude]

pagetop!

i think the fact its just you that drew such a response from him makes it even more telling

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Roden

i think ur getting way too defensive considering the people calling u out r not even full on saying ur wolfy

Is this "caught for the wrong reasons?"

That's the question.

[Roden]

"someone wrote a long read on me early in the game guess im confscum"

ur not quite doing yourself any favours there

This is gross misinterpretation of what I wrote lol.

i think marci was just asking if this is ur normal playstyle? what abt her comment provoked such a strong response from you?

What strong response?

VOTE: Roden

i think ur getting way too defensive considering the people calling u out r not even full on saying ur wolfy

Lmao. Everyone loves to pull the defensive card every time somebody responds to a scum read. This is essentially a non-post. And with the vote attached it's basically a naked vote.

I wonder if you're trying to draw away attention from Marci and Max after all.

VOTE: Roden

i think ur getting way too defensive considering the people calling u out r not even full on saying ur wolfy

Is this "caught for the wrong reasons?"

That's the question.

There's nothing to catch.

[Roden]

Not saying you needed to comment on every post in the spoiler, that would be unreasonable. I did expect to see something different from you from context though - something that matched the context of omo's interactions with Max at least, or a comment on one of the other subjects under discussion.

I'll assume since you're now saying that expecting you to comment on everything was unreasonable that you're no longer saying the push itself is unreasonable and leave it at that for now.

I don't think the push is unreasonable no, I think it's a townie thing to do. Your reasoning makes no sense though because you're ignoring the other two players I was talking with as well. All I wanted was follow up on a question I asked, and I don't think I can contribute too well if I poke into several other concurrent conversations. In bigger groups I prefer to spread out the responsibilities of gathering information and scum hunting. I don't usually look into more than a couple things at a time unless something pings me, which hasn't really happened. Otherwise I get overwhelmed.

[Roden]

Side note but I'd rather avoid the song and dance of taking me to E-1 to get me to claim. I'm telling you now that it's a waste of time and that I don't really want to bother defending myself for the next few days over literally nothing. So if y'all want me to claim now just say the word.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

VOTE: Roden

i think ur getting way too defensive considering the people calling u out r not even full on saying ur wolfy

Who do you mean by "the people calling [Roden] out"

you

Well I am full on scumreading Roden and I thought I made that clear, so unless I'm remembering my own posting wrong this feels like a misrepresentation - not that I disagree that Roden seems defensive.

Tbh I expected you to say "me and marci" as in manatee and Marci, or just Marci, or maybe dwlee as they appear to be sheeping and not directly calling out Roden.

To me it feels like you're taking advantage of the situation here.

Unfortunately when we were scumpartners I dont think you had long to post in the game before T3 bussed you. But I'm going to be checking on that.

Pedit do not claim

[ssbm_Kyouko]

@roden I mean, dont claim

[ssbm_Kyouko]

And my impression on DGB replacing in is that I may have had a sour taste about Looker and will be reconsidering them. If I had to label them rn I'd say nulltown

[ssbm_Kyouko]

And my impression on DGB replacing in is that I may have had a sour taste about Looker and will be reconsidering it. If I had to label it rn I'd say nulltown

EBWOP

[oʍo]

but really like their posting screams "I am uninformed"

Can you elaborate on this? Whose posting? How does it scream "I am uninformed"?

its YOUR own slot, you should be able to answer this for yourself.

Its not something I can articulate that well, its just apparent to me because its the way that there is no end goal with the way they were acting. scum have an agenda when trolling still, you can still feel they are not treating people equally because they are informed vs how an uninformed acts where they are indiscriminate.

[oʍo]

Getting kinda annoyed at the discreds coming at my slot because I crack jokes/play to unsettle occasionally just bc its unorthodox.

[oʍo]

@kyouko do you know who I am yet btw, if so let's townblock here :3

[oʍo]

Also a part of me wants to say that Saudade is town because I intentionally made a clear townread on them to gauge their reaction to it - my memory of scum!Saudade tends to be accepting of people who vocally townread them moreso, although that was in a chat mafia enviroment but I think it still applies here.

[Dwlee99]

I'm mason
VOTE: SSBM_KYOUKO

and your partner is?

Saudade

[marcistar]

I'm down for town reading Kyouko, if only because her reasoning for scum reading me is so bad I don't think scum would try it.

do u usually play like this..?

Like what? Her accusation is completely unreasonable. Let alone hypocritical since she hasn't commented on everything either.

i dont think its unreasonable, you seem a bit held back this game
do you usually play so go-with-the-flow held back type of style?

I've literally never played a game with you before? What are you talking about here?

And haven't you just been memeing all game and brushing off every accusation toward you?

VOTE: Marcistar

i think marci was just asking if this is ur normal playstyle? what abt her comment provoked such a strong response from you?

manatees right here, i was asking if its ur regular playstyle. and then explained how ur play so far looks like to me cuz u said "like what?".
maybe i worded it in a weird way..?

i dont think ive been "memeing all game", i was 100% serious with my vote even if it doesnt look like it. the way i play, i dont throw out random votes. <3
"brushing off every accusation toward you" maybe it seems like that actually, but i havent really seen anything i want to respond to regarding any accusations towards me

[ssbm_Kyouko]

@kyouko do you know who I am yet btw, if so let's townblock here :3

No idk who you are

But I do think saudade is town. You I'm not sure of yet

[oʍo]

@kyouko do you know who I am yet btw, if so let's townblock here :3

No idk who you are

But I do think saudade is town. You I'm not sure of yet

remember a person in your last game called taco.. haha, not the guy who faked a guilty on a townie that would be pretty cringe, but yeah

[ManateeDude]

VOTE: Roden

i think ur getting way too defensive considering the people calling u out r not even full on saying ur wolfy

Who do you mean by "the people calling [Roden] out"

you

Well I am full on scumreading Roden and I thought I made that clear, so unless I'm remembering my own posting wrong this feels like a misrepresentation - not that I disagree that Roden seems defensive.

Tbh I expected you to say "me and marci" as in manatee and Marci, or just Marci, or maybe dwlee as they appear to be sheeping and not directly calling out Roden.

To me it feels like you're taking advantage of the situation here. :nerd:

Unfortunately when we were scumpartners I dont think you had long to post in the game before T3 bussed you. But I'm going to be checking on that.

Pedit do not claim

im just not paying that much attention to the game rn

[ManateeDude]

i can understand your concern im just pretty disengaged atm

[Roden]

VOTE: ManateeDude

So you're saying you're not paying attention and just sheeping the first player to make a detailed scum read? And your own justification for voting me is that I'm "defensive"? You might as well be scum claiming tbh.

[ManateeDude]

thats definitely an interesting perspective

[ManateeDude]

do you not think ur response to kyoukos read on you was defensive?

[T3]

Votecount:

• omo (4): MaxTheFox, Salsabil Faria, DrippingGoofball, Saudade
  Roden (4): ssbm_Kyouko, omo, Dwlee99, ManateeDude
  DrippingGoofball (2): marcistar, Titus
  Salsabil Faria (1): geraintm
  Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia
  ManateeDude (1): Roden

Spoiler: Votes Since Last Votecount

VOTE: dwlee99
why'd you sheepe me bro

Also, VOTE: owo - she's pocketing Not_Mafia, and her and marcistar are being cliquey. Fight the power. End the oppressive regime.

Everything up to 172 is RVS, but in no way does it try to get out of RVS

Hi I'm a miller

Would you happen to be...Informed?

informed of DN

What is DN?

Oh no.

I'm not sure what DN is but why do I feel a sinking feeling shit's going sideways?

A Death Neighborizer!?

Deez Nuts

But yeah it feels like RVS is going on a bit too long.

I think scum's getting restless with RVS and is waiting for someone to make a move they can pounce on

general consensus seems to be a dislike of their entry which i think is pretty nai

translation: stop wagoning my partner for wrong reasons

Hero solve: Max + Manatee + Marci

How serious is this?

Here there is a believable attempt to start solving, but since then, feels like a good amount has happened that Roden could be commenting on, especially given they feel RVS is going on too long

general consensus seems to be a dislike of their entry which i think is pretty nai

translation: stop wagoning my partner for wrong reasons

Hero solve: Max + Manatee + Marci

How serious is this?

Didn't get an answer to this.

But instead of continuing to look for solving info they're making a busy post.

VOTE: Roden

The way Marci reacted to me pushing on them feels towny in retrospect, I was just a bit taken aback at the time when they were not suspicious of me which made me feel like there was TMI at play but at the end of the day scum leans towards actually questioning people who are FoSing them.

I'll sheep you for now kyouko VOTE: Roden

VOTE: omo

VOTE: Rodent
Kyo town?

I am masons with your mum

UNVOTE: Not_Mafia

VOTE: Not_Mafia

UNVOTE: Not_Mafia

He's the only one who is actually trying to play the game.

Scum!Not_Mafia is usually happy to troll.

I'm down for town reading Kyouko, if only because her reasoning for scum reading me is so bad I don't think scum would try it.

do u usually play like this..?

Like what? Her accusation is completely unreasonable. Let alone hypocritical since she hasn't commented on everything either.

i dont think its unreasonable, you seem a bit held back this game
do you usually play so go-with-the-flow held back type of style?

I've literally never played a game with you before? What are you talking about here?

And haven't you just been memeing all game and brushing off every accusation toward you?

VOTE: Marcistar

VOTE: Roden

i think ur getting way too defensive considering the people calling u out r not even full on saying ur wolfy

VOTE: ManateeDude

So you're saying you're not paying attention and just sheeping the first player to make a detailed scum read? And your own justification for voting me is that I'm "defensive"? You might as well be scum claiming tbh.

[Roden]

do you not think ur response to kyoukos read on you was defensive?

Of course it's defensive, I'm not gonna agree with a scum read on me lol. That's why I said your vote post was honestly just a non-post. Saying somebody is defensive means nothing and is more likely to come from scum looking for an easy justification for voting someone.

If defensiveness was AI then Mafia would be a solved game. That obviously isn't true however, yet your vote seems to reflect that kind of thought process.

[ManateeDude]

And your own justification for voting me is that I'm "defensive"? You might as well be scum claiming tbh.

this statement implies you don't think you're being defensive which is why I asked you