Open 821 | Fall With Your Friends | Endgame

[MURDERCAT]

Why inutile, murdercat?

null for not posting

[humaneatingmonkey]

You had her as never trusting. Thats not nai.

[catboi]

Yeah.

Mmm, want to give myself a chance to get reads on other people first before I make that move but probably still going to go through with it

[Prism]

It is worth elaborating why part of me wants a slower pace. This is a table of players with wide familiarity, where it is incredibly hard to miss with meta provide we take our time. The chance of Hectic as scum fooling Ydrasse for 30 minutes off of tone is a lot better than for two weeks.

I was also explicitly worried about a similar tactic to petapan's in Nightless Exploder Pandemonium, where the amount of town directed kills/leashing means that taking the game seriously tanks the scum's chance of winning. He was very direct about wanting a fast-paced, lighthearted game not for the fun of it but for advancing his own win condition, and I think similar mechanics play out here.

[MURDERCAT]

It's my top ~4 of 8 lol

[MURDERCAT]

tbqh I don't think any combination of scum ever wins this setup

[MURDERCAT]

(with this plist)

[Infinity 324]

Murder if you want we could abandon the whole endgaming thing and trust fall right now

I'm half joking

[Prism]

tbqh I don't think any combination of scum ever wins this setup

(with this plist)

I am incredibly sad that I will not get the chance to personally prove you wrong and that the ball lies with others.

[catboi]

Went to cross-reference something_smart in the 9p trust fall game and this one, thoughts feel more natural here, still ok with calling him town

[MURDERCAT]

I'd rather help win first, but I believe we are both town Infinity

[catboi]

tbqh I don't think any combination of scum ever wins this setup

(with this plist)

meh, pride comes before the fall. I do think the game favoring being the *most* towny tilts the advantage hard toward town, though.

[catboi]

Hectic easily could've thrown the game tho, we're at an advantage purely by a stroke of luck

[Prism]

I don't really have any solid reads at the moment other than a catboi scumlean so it's a good time to once again try to pry myself from my computer and go outside.

Yeah.

Mmm, want to give myself a chance to get reads on other people first before I make that move but probably still going to go through with it

My point with this was to call this bluff. I am deeply skeptical that he had a hard townread on me in the early pages, let alone actually be willing to trust me over more directly just calling it off. I expected him as town not to do it, and the time it took to make this post helped a bit, but I still think this is overconfident. I really wanted him to do it to restrict what he could do as scum moving forward.

[catboi]

I do really have that gut vibe still, reading your ISO has not diminished it. I agree we should take our time to play this out and will wait before making any move, though. (=^‥^=)

[Prism]

We discussed during signups that shit like Page 1 was our hypothetical worst nightmare as scum. The fact you didn't show up until after is a big redflag, as is your eagerness both to sprint straight into a loss with me and the bizarre "no speedgame" reasoning afterwards. You also know how much stronger my tone is as scum than as town. I don't buy this.

[catboi]

We discussed during signups that shit like Page 1 was our hypothetical worst nightmare as scum. The fact you didn't show up until after is a big redflag, as is your eagerness both to sprint straight into a loss with me and the bizarre "no speedgame" reasoning afterwards. You also know how much stronger my tone is as scum than as town. I don't buy this.

Of course you don't.

[Prism]

(To be more clear: We discussed the absolute pain of trying to get in the way of two town destined to find each other/maintain control of the game in light of it; I think we both agree that speedgaming/it specifically happening on page 1 is advantageous for scum)

[catboi]

I did not notice the start of the game, I don't see how that specifically is a red flag for you. That'd be factually true even if I were scum, it's not like I'd lurk it out for funzies, the value of first impressions is incredibly strong and missing out potentially puts you in a hole that's hard to recover from.


However, I really, really, absolutely do not want this to be us arguing about each other, with each other, because I think it's unproductive regardless of whether I'm right on your alignment or not, so I'm going to break this off here. You are welcome to continue saying that I am lock scum if you want, I'm going to turn my attention to other people.

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[Prism]

You are welcome to continue saying that I am lock scum if you want, I'm going to turn my attention to other people.

I don't really have any solid reads at the moment other than a

catboi scumlean

so it's a good time to once again try to pry myself from my computer and go outside.

Bad faith but sure, last I'll post on it.

[catboi]

I'm sorry, I exaggerated because I couldn't resist sassing you.

[Dannflor]

I kinda take the opposite approach, where I frame "paranoia" as "I actually just can't read this person as well as I would like". But I'm not exactly the model of self-confidence.

I take the eternal optimism approach of "one day I'm gonna get better at reading this person / reads in general"

it's not necessarily realistic but makes the game more fun overall for me

[MURDERCAT]

My prediction is that prism will trust SS and I will trust infinity and that will be GG
The scum team of Dann and HEM will lose

[Dannflor]

"im gonna do this plan" it's a little more lamisty

Well there was a whole discussion about why scum might do it so I figured it was worth mentioning

yeah it was a very slight ping, but it just struck me as out of place

like saying "I'm gonna solve" instead of like, actually solving

I have no doubt if you're town you be solving throughout the late game but I can also see scum wanting to optically look like they're trying to do that

[humaneatingmonkey]

my prediction is murdercat is scum and i'd gladly stay with him.