Open 821 | Fall With Your Friends | Endgame

[humaneatingmonkey]

we'll grow old together, baby

[humaneatingmonkey]

S_S being universally townread is not obvious to me

[Prism]

What pairings would you be comfortable with HEM?

[humaneatingmonkey]

nothing yet

[humaneatingmonkey]

maybe you're town for not trusting ydrasse when it was inconsequential to do that and you'd have scum motivation to offer yourself there, but maybe you're smarter than that idk

[Something_Smart]

my prediction is murdercat is scum and i'd gladly stay with him.

Elaborate?

[humaneatingmonkey]

My prediction is that prism will trust SS and I will trust infinity and that will be GG
The scum team of Dann and HEM will lose

how murdercat has reads this early points towards scum.

also putting inutile as never voting when he hasn't had the opportunity to interact or read through the slot.

[Prism]

If I didn't want to speedgame I would be trusting HEM at this point. Arguably he should be more worried about my scumgame but he hasn't seen it.

[Prism]

If I didn't want to avoid speegaming*

[Infinity 324]

how murdercat has reads this early points towards scum.

How about meeee

[humaneatingmonkey]

if murdercat is scum, then dannflor isn't scum with him unless they agreed to bus each other right from the get go.

concluding that scum team is hem and dannflor is also not obvious to me. my play has been in your face, so i would understand if he would interpret it as scummy. but dannflor hasn't done anything i would say is ai vs the other people who have posted. so his reads are very very questionable

[humaneatingmonkey]

How about meeee

dont have anything on you yet

[Infinity 324]

Oh but I have reads too

[Prism]

I am very, very comfortable with HEM as town. My question was meant to put pressure to come up with something very good; he knows that tone/townreading me isn't enough as scum and would take the time to create something really cohesive.

I think this would be compounded by a more general problem he has as scum, which was overexplanation of reads.

Assuming he returns it one more pairing should win this very cleanly.

[humaneatingmonkey]

tell me the following:
1. who are the top 4 people who you won't be trusting?
2. who are the scum team?
3. who do you predict would be trusting who?

absurd, right? you might have reads, but to have reads in this level of detail would usually need a lot of content in-thread. but i don't think the content doesn't really exist in this game yet. so murdercat is pulling all these out of thin air points towards fake reads = scum.

[Prism]

Sorry to rope you in again so soon cat, but I'm curious if you agree with me on HEM.

[Something_Smart]

For what it's worth, I townread Prism pretty solidly now.

[Something_Smart]

So if you really are confident in HEM being town, then I'm in support of that pairing.

[MURDERCAT]

so murdercat is pulling all these out of thin air

check my meta

[humaneatingmonkey]

i'll do you one better; explain your meta

[Infinity 324]

1. who are the top 4 people who you won't be trusting?
2. who are the scum team?
3. who do you predict would be trusting who?

I could answer these questions if I wanted to (though I'd be tentative on 2/3) but it doesn't matter much, I have murder as basically locktown anyway.

[humaneatingmonkey]

okay then answer it please would you

[Dannflor]

I have murder as basically locktown anyway.

elaborate?

[MURDERCAT]

i'll do you one better; explain your meta

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12861663
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12612853

I often try to hero solve for style points

[Prism]

Given that there is another avenue towards winning the game rather than pairing off yourself, I think going strictly for a Murder-yourself (Infinity) pairing is not a great idea.

You've also made it clear in other games that your ability to be obviously town is very hit/miss and have demonstrated a lot more interest in the solving side of things-Taking a lot of pride in both making and being correct in reads-than you are here.