Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

[Chara]

not really a glee. it's more that there's a lot town Flea could be doing here that fae isn't. i think fae is perfectly aware of faer town meta.

[Flea The Magician]

i feel like if Flea actually wanted faer solve to go through fae would be doing something besides scumcase Tanner. scumcasing me, or towncasing clidd, because clidd also needs to be town for faer solve to be right.

My solve has error room allowing for that, so why don't me, clidd, you and Tanner have a YOLO party with Amy?

[Flea The Magician]

not really a glee. it's more that there's a lot town Flea could be doing here that fae isn't. i think fae is perfectly aware of faer town meta.

I'm aware of my meta enough to know my scum game is a lot stronger than my town game.

[Chara]

i'm more confident in Tanner being town than Ydrasse right now.

also if you're trying to say that scum you wouldn't be being scumread like you are now, i'm not buying it at all. Yggdrasil just happened.

[Flea The Magician]

i'm more confident in Tanner being town than Ydrasse right now.

also if you're trying to say that scum you wouldn't be being scumread like you are now, i'm not buying it at all. Yggdrasil just happened.

Scum me would play this entirely different.
Scum me also wouldn't care about being scumread.

[Chara]

it doesn't seem like you care here.

[Flea The Magician]

I know I'm right, I know my credibility is shot.

What else can I do?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't think it's possible for a town player to

know

they are right.

[Flea The Magician]

All I'm asking is literally to be humoured because so far the evidence supports my theory.

The moment I'm wrong, I'll shut up and be a double voter for Amy.

[Flea The Magician]

I don't think it's possible for a town player to

know

they are right.

Theoretically no.

Reality is it happens often.

[Flea The Magician]

Amusingly I love how Tweetie is being allowed escape first and shes the one who was willing to hear me out

[Chara]

I know I'm right, I know my credibility is shot.

What else can I do?

talk about why clidd is town at all? talk about why i'm scum? if you're sure of that theory, you know these things are correct. the fact that you only say you could be wrong after i point this out tells me enough.

[Flea The Magician]

I really don't want to put effort into town casing someone right now, I'm tired, cranky and FUCK THIS HEAT and I'm meant to be part of a tabletop game on Twitch and I have no effort for any of that.

There is always margin for error. That margin lies at <1% currently.

[Chara]

have fun with your game. :>

[Chara]

i do think Flea is scum here, 3801 looks like a deflection because Flea doesn't actually have a reason for me to be scum but is trying to pretend fae is sure up until the moment fae can't.

[Flea The Magician]

i do think Flea is scum here, 3801 looks like a deflection because Flea doesn't actually have a reason for me to be scum but is trying to pretend fae is sure up until the moment fae can't.

Thing is I'm high suspicious of you anyway, because your scum game scares me.

knowing mentally I'm nowhere near even 25% capacity, I'm going to bias myself if I try and case you.

[Flea The Magician]

you know the best thing about all this?

All I'm asking for, at the moment, is tweetie, pooky and ydrasee get sentenced.

Because there's no red flips there.

[Flea The Magician]

I've already condemned myself, and you both have jumped at condemning me further too

[Amy Dunne]

I’ll be honest Flea, remember when you strongly towncased Titus in Happy Face? You gave a good solid argument for it and you were super obvious town in that game from the getgo, so I know you’re capable of making reads that are not based in mech.

Being suspicious of Chara’s scumgame isn’t a good reason to sr it in THIS one. Your play sounds very similar to Royalty when you illogically tunnelled Pooky and Ydrasse. You also professed conviction in that but it didn’t sound at all like your conviction in Titus!town in Happy Face where it was beyond obvious you believed in that read.

Also if you were on D1 apparently so opposed to Infinty wagon, why didn’t you try to derail it? Had you tried hard to swing the wagon even to Nakata instead of vanity voting Tanner, I would tr you. Why? Because scum buddies generally don’t work so hard to be at extreme cross purposes.

You knew Tanner had 0 chance of being yeeted and that at some point Nakata absolutely did but you only switched to him when Infinty was already at 6 votes. That reads like you were onboard with that wagon, despite your claims to the contrary and we know at least one scum bussed her and that’s why you look like whomever’s the bussing scum’s buddy.

[Amy Dunne]

P.edit wrongly tunnelled. You did have a logical argument that was dead wrong.

[Amy Dunne]

P.edit wrongly tunnelled. You did have a logical argument that was dead wrong.

But you dug in your heels and pushed it hard and Pooky got really angry about being wrongly tunnelled. Ydrasse was super obvious town in that and there were plenty of anti-associatives that cleared her.

So my point in bringing that up, is you’re extremely capable of faking conviction but when you’re town, you just seem to do it very differently.

And even if Ydra flips town, it still doesn’t make you any less scummy. Because we know one scum bussed and you’re play d1 doesn’t make sense as town.

If I’m hard opposed to Infinity wagon like you claimed to be, you actually try to derail it but instead you just sat on Tanner and only moved to Nakata when the deal was already sealed.

[Flea The Magician]

I’ll be honest Flea, remember when you strongly towncased Titus in Happy Face? You gave a good solid argument for it and you were super obvious town in that game from the getgo, so I know you’re capable of making reads that are not based in mech.

Being suspicious of Chara’s scumgame isn’t a good reason to sr it in THIS one. Your play sounds very similar to Royalty when you illogically tunnelled Pooky and Ydrasse. You also professed conviction in that but it didn’t sound at all like your conviction in Titus!town in Happy Face where it was beyond obvious you believed in that read.

Also if you were on D1 apparently so opposed to Infinty wagon, why didn’t you try to derail it? Had you tried hard to swing the wagon even to Nakata instead of vanity voting Tanner, I would tr you. Why? Because scum buddies generally don’t work so hard to be at extreme cross purposes.

You knew Tanner had 0 chance of being yeeted and that at some point Nakata absolutely did but you only switched to him when Infinty was already at 6 votes. That reads like you were onboard with that wagon, despite your claims to the contrary and we know at least one scum bussed her and that’s why you look like whomever’s the bussing scum’s buddy.

I can give you a game of mine matching any meta you want, town or scum.
Happy Face mafia was genuinely a blip in my capability, I have no idea how I did that AND LIVED.

I believed in infinitown D1, I honestly did. I didn't like the tells being used against her. Still don't, honestly.
Nakata I was also sure of being scum D1.

I am actually really happy with my reads this game, beyond the mech stuff.

There happens a thing where occasionally I'll pick up a read D1, and I'll tunnel on it, and I'll fight for that read to the bitter end. This is one of those games I guess.

[Flea The Magician]

oh and fwiw, i believed in infinitown, but I couldn't shift the nagging that there was something off about her.

I wasn't for, I wasn't opposed.

[Flea The Magician]

And lets face it...
This is just you looking to affirm your towncred.
and I'll be blamed when you and tanner get ejected and win.

[Amy Dunne]

i'm more confident in Tanner being town than Ydrasse right now.

also if you're trying to say that scum you wouldn't be being scumread like you are now, i'm not buying it at all. Yggdrasil just happened.

Tbf Chara, I tried to read fae’s ISO in that and just gave up with a splitting headache. Faer almost entire ISO in that game was spam and nonsense.

I think Royalty is a much better comparison.

IOW, Flea was flaming obvscum in Yggdrasil but definitely not in Royalty.