Except Yin detonated Ircher which clearly helped scum wincon.In post 3948, Flea The Magician wrote:Yin is not scum...
Yin and Yang are the 3rd faction. They can't win, they can't lose. They have direct influence on the game.
Yin is darkness, hoping to help darkness spread.
Without Yang, Yin is nothing.
As darkness spreads, so does light, and the value of light grows.
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its starting to feel that wayIn post 3943, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:are we just being trolled here
Yes. I'd like to conftown him to see what Flea does.In post 3920, Amy Dunne wrote:You mean put him to E - 1 and see if he self-hammers?
Aside from having a strong belief in Tanner/Pooky/Ydrasse/Flea?...In post 3860, Amy Dunne wrote:Or Flea and Clidd? Idk but I’m asking you why is Chara scum? I want to understand why it’s being scumread.
Chara feels like it's looking for a chink in the town's armour rather than solving. I think its posts are towny in a way that is expected for someone as good as scum as it -- but considering how it originally scumread me this phase, is keeping Flea on the table as long as possible.. but at the same time -- fairly hard defending clidd at the start of this phase! I think the defense on clidd was necessary for a Chara/clidd team -- Chara gave reasoning why clidd never does something as scum and hoped it would work, I think. It's necessary that the clidd townread spreads for those two to win, so naturally Chara has to hard defend clidd at this point....
Of course, there's a possibility in my mind that I fucked up on Ydrasse or Flea -- i think that'd make Chara town
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Yes my scum game is immense. yes my scum game has no limits.
Neither does my town game.
That you're all wigging out on me, means I'm doing something right when I get a red PM.
Nobody at any stage is allowed to vote for me
I will openly challenge that, I have maintained that, I will continue to maintain that in apparently what is becoming a silent star tradition.
I'm not even asking for blind trust.
My theory is backed so far. and I'll drop my notes here again for you to look over yourself. I even have post numbers for the bulk of it.
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Flea your theory is that criminals = scum
The thing is, all your reasoning proves is that Yin is consistent with who is a criminal. I am well aware of this, I figured out the criminals before you did and Norwe also kept track before me
The only evidence for what you believe is that Infy and Nakata flipped scum. However, they also WANTED TO DIE. They did not die because they were criminals, they died because they were scum jesters.
If you want me to believe Tanner or Chara are scum, show me why they're scum, don't point to Nakata and Infy flipping scum or the list of criminals. I am extremely aware of who the criminals are and it hasnt done a thing for me thus far- Flea The Magician
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Which is a single minded effort to help scum win.In post 3950, Amy Dunne wrote:
Except Yin detonated Ircher which clearly helped scum wincon.In post 3948, Flea The Magician wrote:Yin is not scum...
Yin and Yang are the 3rd faction. They can't win, they can't lose. They have direct influence on the game.
Yin is darkness, hoping to help darkness spread.
Without Yang, Yin is nothing.
As darkness spreads, so does light, and the value of light grows.
Ever go and star gaze? You need to find as dark an area as you can get so you can see each and every speck of light.
Scum could not detonate Ircher without claiming, which destroys their wincon.
Yin or Yang absolutely had to be the ones mechanically to do that.XenoSkulk was processed by Crushing Wheels
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Put Tanner to E1, tanner does not self hammer and clears.In post 3949, Morning Tweet wrote:
??????In post 3918, Flea The Magician wrote:This is actually painful at this point...
First scum will not self hammer. The cred is needed to secure their other being yeet.
You realize our alignments are shown upon being eliminated right??
This makes no sense at all
Tanner is now bias-clear town to the majoriy of people.
Tanner works on getting Chara yeet.
"oh no drama!"
Tanner gets yeet because he's townier than the alternatives and he's clear.
GG.XenoSkulk was processed by Crushing Wheels
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In what universe does Chara get eliminated before Tanner.In post 3956, Flea The Magician wrote:
Put Tanner to E1, tanner does not self hammer and clears.In post 3949, Morning Tweet wrote:
??????In post 3918, Flea The Magician wrote:This is actually painful at this point...
First scum will not self hammer. The cred is needed to secure their other being yeet.
You realize our alignments are shown upon being eliminated right??
This makes no sense at all
Tanner is now bias-clear town to the majoriy of people.
Tanner works on getting Chara yeet.
"oh no drama!"
Tanner gets yeet because he's townier than the alternatives and he's clear.
GG.
Tanner would come first.
If he flips scum, Chara is locked out of the game, GG
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In post 2, Hectic wrote:AWAKEN,VILLAGERSOF THE PIT!
A harsh cry jolts you from your sleep, and you awaken to unfamiliar surroundings inside a stone house of sorts. The last thing you remember is being captured and knocked out by the Royal Guard...
You leave your makeshift house to investigate. Others follow from similar houses, seeming to arise with expressions matching your own.
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A man wearing a top hat greets you all.
Welcome to your new home, friends - the pit. You're all here for crimes of treason, murder, theft, arson... you name it. However, there is a slight problem; I'm fairly certain aBut no matter! I'm sure if you spend some time together, you will become very good judges of each other's character. Sentence someone between yourselves to death by nightfall, good luck. Oh, and one last thing!good amount of you are innocent and wrongfully convicted.
He points to a man and a woman standing a little apart from the main group.
This is Yin and Yang; they'll be accompanying you here in the pit. Yin may have vital information for you and will answer any question you ask. Yang may or may not have information for you and may or may not answer any questions you ask.
The man transforms into a bat and flies out of the pit, the 100 metre stone walls powerless in stopping him. The Menagerie sure did have a toll on this world...
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You look around at your newly acquaintedfriends.In post 2885, Hectic wrote:In the early hours of the morning, you find a small piece of parchment lying on the ground of the pit. You read it aloud as the other villagers gather around you.
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You have all been deceived. The Imperials have no interest in justice, they only have interest in finding the most exceptionalto recruit to their Royal Army, and to make use of theircriminalsskills. You've been under the impression that you've been sentencing people to death. In reality, being sentenced means freedom from the pit.criminal
You do not know who I am, but I ask that you please heed my words and do not let the Mayor find out. Sentence those amongst you who you think are the most good and deserving to leave, and then perhaps... we can break this system from the inside.
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That moment when you lightbulb the thing thats been annoying you at the back of your head.
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Thing is, as much as that ties in with what we have, it's still going to get hand waved away...XenoSkulk was processed by Crushing Wheels
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Eeeey right on time.In post 3961, Morning Tweet wrote:I dont see anything that says criminals have to be mafia, have you considered the possibility of town criminals?XenoSkulk was processed by Crushing Wheels
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You have to concede that if the team is Tanner/Chara they always lose.In post 3960, Flea The Magician wrote:That moment when you lightbulb the thing thats been annoying you at the back of your head.
I'm the only one getting trolled here Tweetie.. I keep thinking people are actually going to listen and it reinvigorates me to try and win...
We eliminate Tanner -> he flips scum -> we never eliminate Chara
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No but seriously, what point are you making with the flavourIn post 3963, Flea The Magician wrote:
Eeeey right on time.In post 3961, Morning Tweet wrote:I dont see anything that says criminals have to be mafia, have you considered the possibility of town criminals?- Amy Dunne
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Yes, that’s why my tr on him dramatically plummeted. I see, maybe?In post 3952, Morning Tweet wrote:
its starting to feel that wayIn post 3943, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:are we just being trolled here
Yes. I'd like to conftown him to see what Flea does.In post 3920, Amy Dunne wrote:You mean put him to E - 1 and see if he self-hammers?
Aside from having a strong belief in Tanner/Pooky/Ydrasse/Flea?...In post 3860, Amy Dunne wrote:Or Flea and Clidd? Idk but I’m asking you why is Chara scum? I want to understand why it’s being scumread.
Chara feels like it's looking for a chink in the town's armour rather than solving. I think its posts are towny in a way that is expected for someone as good as scum as it -- but considering how it originally scumread me this phase, is keeping Flea on the table as long as possible.. but at the same time -- fairly hard defending clidd at the start of this phase! I think the defense on clidd was necessary for a Chara/clidd team -- Chara gave reasoning why clidd never does something as scum and hoped it would work, I think. It's necessary that the clidd townread spreads for those two to win, so naturally Chara has to hard defend clidd at this point....
Of course, there's a possibility in my mind that I fucked up on Ydrasse or Flea -- i think that'd make Chara town
clidd's early game pushes align with scum interests + he's demotivated to solve lategame = he's probably scum
Well I’m okay with Tanner being limmed if you want to wait until tomorrow? Personally, this back and forth with Flea and Tanner is just stalling the game atp.- Flea The Magician
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That is the play I would make, that is the play AMYIn post 3964, Morning Tweet wrote:
You have to concede that if the team is Tanner/Chara they always lose.In post 3960, Flea The Magician wrote:That moment when you lightbulb the thing thats been annoying you at the back of your head.
I'm the only one getting trolled here Tweetie.. I keep thinking people are actually going to listen and it reinvigorates me to try and win...
We eliminate Tanner -> he flips scum -> we never eliminate Chara
You have to be trolling if you think Tanner as scum will refuse to self hammer on X-1 and proceed to somehow get Chara eliminated, and then SOMEHOW get eliminated himselfhasmade.
Tanner doomed himself. That's the funniest thing here.
It was down to asking the right questions and the right people.
We got fucking lucky.XenoSkulk was processed by Crushing Wheels
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Read it tweetie. I'm not going to lead the charge here because nobody will follow me. Hell I even made it easy.In post 3965, Morning Tweet wrote:
No but seriously, what point are you making with the flavourIn post 3963, Flea The Magician wrote:
Eeeey right on time.In post 3961, Morning Tweet wrote:I dont see anything that says criminals have to be mafia, have you considered the possibility of town criminals?XenoSkulk was processed by Crushing Wheels
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So is Robert actually alive then?In post 2885, Hectic wrote:In the early hours of the morning, you find a small piece of parchment lying on the ground of the pit. You read it aloud as the other villagers gather around you.
Spoiler:
You have all been deceived. The Imperials have no interest in justice, they only have interest in finding the most exceptional criminals to recruit to their Royal Army, and to make use of their criminal skills. You've been under the impression that you've been sentencing people to death. In reality, being sentenced means freedom from the pit.
You do not know who I am, but I ask that you please heed my words and do not let the Mayor find out. Sentence those amongst you who you think are the most good and deserving to leave, and then perhaps... we can break this system from the inside.
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????????????????????????In post 3967, Flea The Magician wrote:
That is the play I would make, that is the play AMYIn post 3964, Morning Tweet wrote:
You have to concede that if the team is Tanner/Chara they always lose.In post 3960, Flea The Magician wrote:That moment when you lightbulb the thing thats been annoying you at the back of your head.
I'm the only one getting trolled here Tweetie.. I keep thinking people are actually going to listen and it reinvigorates me to try and win...
We eliminate Tanner -> he flips scum -> we never eliminate Chara
You have to be trolling if you think Tanner as scum will refuse to self hammer on X-1 and proceed to somehow get Chara eliminated, and then SOMEHOW get eliminated himselfhasmade.
Tanner doomed himself. That's the funniest thing here.
It was down to asking the right questions and the right people.
We got fucking lucky.
Nowhere does it say vote for criminals or that we need to get rid of criminals or that criminals are scum... so? It's flavour. I'm going to read the game insteadIn post 3968, Flea The Magician wrote:
Read it tweetie. I'm not going to lead the charge here because nobody will follow me. Hell I even made it easy.In post 3965, Morning Tweet wrote:
No but seriously, what point are you making with the flavourIn post 3963, Flea The Magician wrote:
Eeeey right on time.In post 3961, Morning Tweet wrote:I dont see anything that says criminals have to be mafia, have you considered the possibility of town criminals?
If Hectic actually gave us the names of the entire scumteam on a silver platter because we ASKED, I will concede you were right. And also that this game was designed terribly- Flea The Magician
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Kudos to both NPCs for playing this out so well btw.In post 3959, Flea The Magician wrote:Yin may have vital information for you and will answer any question you ask. Yang may or may not have information for you and may or may not answer any questions you ask.
and according to the flavour, yes, just not in the pit in which the context of the game is set in.XenoSkulk was processed by Crushing Wheels
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LMAO i think Norwe and Ircher are the only dead people in flavourIn post 3969, Amy Dunne wrote:
So is Robert actually alive then? :lol:In post 2885, Hectic wrote:In the early hours of the morning, you find a small piece of parchment lying on the ground of the pit. You read it aloud as the other villagers gather around you.
Spoiler:
You have all been deceived. The Imperials have no interest in justice, they only have interest in finding the most exceptional criminals to recruit to their Royal Army, and to make use of their criminal skills. You've been under the impression that you've been sentencing people to death. In reality, being sentenced means freedom from the pit.
You do not know who I am, but I ask that you please heed my words and do not let the Mayor find out. Sentence those amongst you who you think are the most good and deserving to leave, and then perhaps... we can break this system from the inside.
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Is it though?In post 3970, Morning Tweet wrote:If Hectic actually gave us the names of the entire scumteam on a silver platter because we ASKED, I will concede you were right. And also that this game was designed terribly
Is it really that badly designed?
You cannot account for human stupidity.
Anyone who has ever been a Games Master, Dungeon Master, Storyteller, Narrator, etc will tell you this is the most important lesson you need to learn.
We had to work for those names tweetie. We had to work out which questions to ask, and even then who to ask about.XenoSkulk was processed by Crushing Wheels
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And even then, some of them are PoE because some of us kept notes. we both kepts notes.
How many games mechanically fall apart because someone doesn't take notes?XenoSkulk was processed by Crushing Wheels
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