Mini Normal 2223 | Town Wins!

[DrippingGoofball]

To pull a T3,

I don't think T3 is ever living that down. Poor guy.

What did I miss?

In a recently ended mini normal t3 claimed a guilty on his scum buddy while he was traitor. Promptly got nightkilled.

Site history!

[Roden]

Except based on context it's very clearly who I'm scum reading.

I don't even remember why you voted me so I don't know. They probably weren't good reasons if I had to bet based on our conversations.

That's the issue then. You can't just scum read everyone who votes in a way you don't like. By your logic, there should be at least four scum in the game, and you've played long to know that just isn't true. You should know better than that by now

[MathBlade]

Manateegal is also scum ty for making that obvious

i think ur just susing anyone who votes u and thats kinda weird

I'm mason

urge to make a dad joke

Serious question: What dad joke?

Word wolf warning: I am known for some of the cringiest of dad jokes so spare no expense.

its prob obvious wht its was gonna be, im like the worst at dad jokes its not even funny

Kinda disappointed.

Was hoping to lock town you depending on the joke to see if it matched your vibe. You not telling it after telling you it’s okay to be cringey is pretty sus but the rest of your posting is okay.

Null with the lightest of scum leans here.

[DrippingGoofball]

What dad joke?

When does a joke become a dad joke?

Spoiler:

When it becomes apparent.

[Dwlee99]

Except based on context it's very clearly who I'm scum reading.

I don't even remember why you voted me so I don't know. They probably weren't good reasons if I had to bet based on our conversations.

That's the issue then. You can't just scum read everyone who votes in a way you don't like. By your logic, there should be at least four scum in the game, and you've played long to know that just isn't true. You should know better than that by now

I feel like you just aren't understanding my posts if you still think I scumread people solely for voting where I don't like.

[MathBlade]

What dad joke?

When does a joke become a dad joke?

Spoiler:

When it becomes apparent.

Heheheheh.

Gonna produce some content?

Also Roden’s post sucks. FoS’s can be on more players than scum. It’s also possible there’s four scum we don’t know

VOTE: Roden

[DrippingGoofball]

FTR I'm never trusting Titus' MB read ever again.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: oʍo

[marcistar]

Kinda disappointed.

Was hoping to lock town you depending on the joke to see if it matched your vibe. You not telling it after telling you it’s okay to be cringey is pretty sus but the rest of your posting is okay.

Null with the lightest of scum leans here.

i dont like being lockedtown anyways since that makes the game boring for me

but i dont like disappointing people; it was just the basic "hi mason im marci" type joke, my friend makes those kinds of jokes so often so ive been picking it up

[ManateeDude]

VOTE: oʍo

im super happy 2 jump back here btw

[Titus]

VOTE: Titus

Serial killer hero solve.

Why are you hunting 3P?

Serial killers are not allowed in Mini normals.

Welcome!

[Roden]

Except based on context it's very clearly who I'm scum reading.

I don't even remember why you voted me so I don't know. They probably weren't good reasons if I had to bet based on our conversations.

That's the issue then. You can't just scum read everyone who votes in a way you don't like. By your logic, there should be at least four scum in the game, and you've played long to know that just isn't true. You should know better than that by now

I feel like you just aren't understanding my posts if you still think I scumread people solely for voting where I don't like.

You keep saying this but you've refused to clarify or explain any of your reads for the past few pages now. I've even asked you to but you've ignored my requests.

What dad joke?

When does a joke become a dad joke?

Spoiler:

When it becomes apparent.

Heheheheh.

Gonna produce some content?

Also Roden’s post sucks. FoS’s can be on more players than scum. It’s also possible there’s four scum we don’t know

VOTE: Roden

Terrible vote and reasoning. Thanks for claiming scum.

[Titus]

What dad joke?

When does a joke become a dad joke?

Spoiler:

When it becomes apparent.

Hahaha.

I'm still the Godmother.

I detest all the dad jokes. He walked out and left me with these kids. Mom left too. Just me.

[Roden]

VOTE: Titus

Serial killer hero solve.

Why are you hunting 3P?

You're literally reading RVS. This can't be a genuine question...

[Titus]

FTR I'm never trusting Titus' MB read ever again.

Fair enough, at least for awhile.

[Roden]

TOWN READS

Kyouko- Probably the closest we have to obvtown.

DGB- Looker spewed town before they replaced in.

TOWN LEANS

Not_Mafia- He's been inactive the past couple days but he was actually trying to solve early on.

Titus- She's not trying too hard to look town, she's actively trying to gain information, and her responses feel genuine.

Salsabil- She only has one read that I disagree with, which actually helps make me think her reads are authentic and not just following general consensus.

NULL

OMO and Saudade (not Math)- Both are Null for the same reason. Both have been fairly chaotic, which helps generate content, but they're not doing a whole lot of actual solving themselves.

Geraintm- Not much content to look at. He's done this as town before but it's ultimately NAI.

Dwlee- Idk why they're making such a conscious effort to look scummy. It makes me think possibly just confused town, but they've played long enough to know better.

SCUM LEANS

ManateeDude- I feel like she has scum equity with Max and Marci after we had our back and forth. She occasionally gives town vibes with her posts though, so not a definite scum read.

Math (not Saudade)- Terrible entrance, terrible vote, and fake sounding questions all make him sound incredibly scummy in a short amount of time. Combined with my read on Saudade, this slot doesnt feel good at all to me.

SCUM READS

Marci- Same reason I suspect her that I do Manatee. However, I feel like Marci more blatantly tried to distance herself. Possibly scum trying to associate herself with a town!Manatee in order to build fake scum equity. Also don't think Marci has been doing much solving or scum hunting, mainly just chatting with everyone and being friendly.

Max- The root of most of my scum reads. She took a lot of heat early on then laid low ever since. Posts occasionally to avoid prod dodge accusations, but she isn't really doing anything. Most likely just trying to avoid attention, to the point it's becoming obvious.

All things considered, I'm interested in voting out either Marci or Max unless someone can come up with a compelling enough case for somebody else.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Titus

Serial killer hero solve.

Why are you hunting 3P?

Serial killers are not allowed in Mini normals.

Welcome!

Rip. I keep forgetting SK’s got removed from normals.

[MathBlade]

Except based on context it's very clearly who I'm scum reading.

I don't even remember why you voted me so I don't know. They probably weren't good reasons if I had to bet based on our conversations.

That's the issue then. You can't just scum read everyone who votes in a way you don't like. By your logic, there should be at least four scum in the game, and you've played long to know that just isn't true. You should know better than that by now

I feel like you just aren't understanding my posts if you still think I scumread people solely for voting where I don't like.

You keep saying this but you've refused to clarify or explain any of your reads for the past few pages now. I've even asked you to but you've ignored my requests.

What dad joke?

When does a joke become a dad joke?

Spoiler:

When it becomes apparent.

Heheheheh.

Gonna produce some content?

Also Roden’s post sucks. FoS’s can be on more players than scum. It’s also possible there’s four scum we don’t know

VOTE: Roden

Terrible vote and reasoning. Thanks for claiming scum.

Ooh yay! Just “terrible” no explanation. If I had claimed scum you’d be able to explain it. This reeks of OMGUS. You seem like a really experienced newbie and I can’t place why.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Titus

Serial killer hero solve.

Why are you hunting 3P?

You're literally reading RVS. This can't be a genuine question...

It was. I am an old foagie who plays games from time to time and I keep forgetting normals changed. I like replacing in and reading RVS and poking at tone and seeing initial thoughts and seeing how they vibe. Scum have a hard time being emotionally and logically consistent. They’re usually one or the other.

[marcistar]

Marci- Same reason I suspect her that I do Manatee. However, I feel like Marci more blatantly tried to distance herself. Possibly scum trying to associate herself with a town!Manatee in order to build fake scum equity.

Also don't think Marci has been doing much solving or scum hunting, mainly just chatting with everyone and being friendly.

having trouble with my reads, though that isn't too much of a valid excuse. I have townreads mostly, and "they dont seem scummy enough to vote" reads, but im not really too confident in anything.

All things considered, I'm interested in voting out either Marci or Max unless someone can come up with a compelling enough case for somebody else.

whatchu waiting for? why didnt u vote in this post if ur willing to vote out either of me/max?

[MathBlade]

TOWN READS

Kyouko- Probably the closest we have to obvtown.

DGB- Looker spewed town before they replaced in.

TOWN LEANS

Not_Mafia- He's been inactive the past couple days but he was actually trying to solve early on.

Titus- She's not trying too hard to look town, she's actively trying to gain information, and her responses feel genuine.

Salsabil- She only has one read that I disagree with, which actually helps make me think her reads are authentic and not just following general consensus.

NULL

OMO and Saudade (not Math)- Both are Null for the same reason. Both have been fairly chaotic, which helps generate content, but they're not doing a whole lot of actual solving themselves.

Geraintm- Not much content to look at. He's done this as town before but it's ultimately NAI.

Dwlee- Idk why they're making such a conscious effort to look scummy. It makes me think possibly just confused town, but they've played long enough to know better.

SCUM LEANS

ManateeDude- I feel like she has scum equity with Max and Marci after we had our back and forth. She occasionally gives town vibes with her posts though, so not a definite scum read.

Math (not Saudade)- Terrible entrance, terrible vote, and fake sounding questions all make him sound incredibly scummy in a short amount of time. Combined with my read on Saudade, this slot doesnt feel good at all to me.

SCUM READS

Marci- Same reason I suspect her that I do Manatee. However, I feel like Marci more blatantly tried to distance herself. Possibly scum trying to associate herself with a town!Manatee in order to build fake scum equity. Also don't think Marci has been doing much solving or scum hunting, mainly just chatting with everyone and being friendly.

Max- The root of most of my scum reads. She took a lot of heat early on then laid low ever since. Posts occasionally to avoid prod dodge accusations, but she isn't really doing anything. Most likely just trying to avoid attention, to the point it's becoming obvious.

All things considered, I'm interested in voting out either Marci or Max unless someone can come up with a compelling enough case for somebody else.

Look! I am town! Look at this readwall! I am so town! This is me “solving”

Read walls don’t help solve. You think Max and Marci are scum? Push them. Say why they are scum. Repeat it.

Spreading a wide net like this without following anything is really fake.

[MathBlade]

Spoiler: The wordy words

I'm down for town reading Kyouko, if only because her reasoning for scum reading me is so bad I don't think scum would try it.

do u usually play like this..?

Like what? Her accusation is completely unreasonable. Let alone hypocritical since she hasn't commented on everything either.

Let me take you through the reasoning again since you seem to not follow, based on you a) saying my read is unreasonable and b) calling my read hypocritical.

1. Roden's ISO up to 172 seems content to participate in RVS.
2. Roden, in 172, complains that RVS is going on too long. Conclusion: Roden wants to move the game out of RVS. Up to this point, the thought process tracks. You

were

fine to participate in RVS, but now you are tiring of it.
3. In 173, immediately afterward, you ask omo how serious their hero solve is. In good faith, this can be seen as an attempt to get the conversation moving

away

from RVS. To this point, your purported stance on RVS and your actions still track with one another.
4. Things of interest that could be commented on occur while you are offline

Spoiler: The things that happened, raw quotes, no context

Is Not_Mafia trolling or what?

VOTE: omo for being the only other one not to confirm.

VOTE: MaxTheFox
This is a nervous scumclaim right here

In what way is it a scumclaim? I think I'm keeping the vote then...

In what way isn't it?

on a serious note i dont like lookers passivity in regards to being asked about voting

I think Looker's behavior is pretty town indicative in thought process, if very chaotic in nature.

Mention the post(s) you find town indicative please.

Which ones are scum indicative?

on a serious note i dont like lookers passivity in regards to being asked about voting

I think Looker's behavior is pretty town indicative in thought process, if very chaotic in nature.

Mention the post(s) you find town indicative please.

Which ones are scum indicative?

This isn't the answer of my question and their posts are either NAI or fluff so far.

UNVOTE: geraintm

VOTE: OMO

Is Not_Mafia trolling or what?

VOTE: omo for being the only other one not to confirm.

VOTE: MaxTheFox
This is a nervous scumclaim right here

In what way is it a scumclaim? I think I'm keeping the vote then...

In what way isn't it?

The burden of proof is on you, you accused me first.

omo is either scum or just trying to cause chaos. None of their posts make much sense as town, they're either baseless accusations or dodging questions.

omo is either scum or just trying to cause chaos. None of their posts make much sense as town, they're either baseless accusations or dodging questions.

Yes I am causing chaos. Why is that scummy?

omo is either scum or just trying to cause chaos. None of their posts make much sense as town, they're either baseless accusations or dodging questions.

Yes I am causing chaos. Why is that scummy?

It's scummy because it gets in the way of town's discussion. Especially since RVS is pretty much over.

And answer my question, with how you're dodging people's questions I'm happy to lock my vote onto you.

Weird bc I've been doing more discussion than you have. Sounds like youre your own obstacle to getting into discussion and you're projecting that onto me

Also what you claim isnt proof that is my intent nor does your analysis look at intent. Happy to dunk you if you keep this up.

Also VOTE: Marcistar masons unite on this

spoilered image removed from quote by ssbm_Kyouko

I want to change my vote, who should I vote and why?

vote whoever.
im voting looker because i felt like the whole "waiting on max" thing was just them making excuses to not post. and my vote kept, because i don't really like his posting following manatees questioning them.

omo is either scum or just trying to cause chaos. None of their posts make much sense as town, they're either baseless accusations or dodging questions.

don't think what they've been doing is really scummy rn, the game was not really serious and they seem to have been trying to drive it into serious zone.

Max has reacted alright to the few votes thrown at him actually

[color=8040FF]I want to change my vote, who should I vote and why?[/color]

hate this post.
+1 on my scum index

Also, VOTE: owo - she's pocketing Not_Mafia, and her and marcistar are being cliquey. Fight the power. End the oppressive regime.

looker looking like a good policy lim on top of the fact i dont really dont TR them at all

Don't like how quickly Saudade has let go of his hate boner

Why are Women voting Titus? Is she a misogynist?

tbh, i remember reading the vote count.. and i was just confused who women was because i dont remember there being someone named that.. am i remembering wrong?

Also, VOTE: owo - she's pocketing Not_Mafia, and her and marcistar are being cliquey. Fight the power. End the oppressive regime.

I confused owo with Manatee - it's all pink and blue

"cliquey" are u saying thats scummy..? whats making you want to use that to go after her instead of me..?
and, if ur confusing owo with manatee, why did u not switch onto manatee once u realized this mistake?

5. In 218, when you return, your immediate post is "Didn't get an answer to this." Your question was directed at omo, and if you had read to know he didnt answer you, you would have also seen he was husy engaging with one of the scumreads in his hero solve. A more appropriate follow up for town that was tring to sort omo would be to comment on his interaction with Max, or follow up with a question asking him to explain his read on Marci or Manatee, as it seems clear that he is serious about Max, and by extension, should be serious about the others.

In my opinion, you should have been commenting on the action from 4. 218 is the kind of post that scum makes to give the appearance they are genuinely scumhunting: "look everyone, when he didn't answer my question, I didnt forget about it. Call me town because I'm following through with this" - I used to do this as scum all the time. I would re-iso myself constantly and make sure everyone had answered my questions and if they had not, I would get loud about it. Because a lot of people will form scumreads because "this person is asking questions but isn't drawing meaningful conclusions", or "... but doesn't seem to care when they go unanswered"

There is the reasoning.

a) My read on you is not unreasonable.
b) The basis of my read is that you did not comment on things that could take the game out of RVS when you purport to be tiring of it. There is nothing hypocritical about my read, because I did not say I was tiring of RVS (though I was, and was having difficulty forming reads), and am bringing something that gets the ball rolling instead of doing very little about it and trying to make it look like I am doing more than I am.

To say my read is hypocritical is to show that you are not trying to understand my thought process. If you had tried to understand it, you would have known what my issue with you was, and you would not accuse me of being hypocritical. It shows you are thinking at a shallow level by reducing my read on you to "Roden didnt comment on everything so he is scum" and trying to flip that reduction around on me and call me hypocritical for not commenting on everything.

Conciseness is a gift please. There’s like a happy middle ground somewhere. Gonna need to see if you do PBPA as scum but I am okay townbinning you for today.

[MathBlade]

did you know that orthogonal states of the spin half quantum sub space are 180 degrees instead of your conventional 90

I'd love to see the mathematical proof of this

NOT

This is word salad anyway.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Manatee

sorry kyouko i think roden prob town here

Okay, saudade, manatee are 2 town down I think. I was ready to vote manatee earlier too. Are scum not posting? Dwlee/Titus/?

? Could be max but i was in both her previous games and i can say with certainty that entrance is nai.

VOTE: titus

I am kinda love hate this vote. Not sure if I should say more.

[MathBlade]

responding prematurely and snarkily to a single scumread meets my definition of "too defensive"

Why haven't you accused Marci then? She got accused multiple times and just responded with GIFs. She even admitted she doesn't feel like responding to them, which is honestly worse than getting defensive. Not even IMO, just objectively that is worse to ignore accusations and drown them out with memes.

yea i just think its suuuper weird with how u responded to the push given at the time of that post you had like 3-4 votes on you at that point

your response to the scumread on you is overly worried and i feel it echoes someone elses statement abt u possibly feeling "scumread for the wrong reason"

Worried how? You literally just said my response was premature and snarky. But now I waited until I was getting wagon'd and got overly worried? This is a pretty blatant contradiction.

to be fair there hasn't been a single obvtown in this game so far and that's a bit worrying

Looker slot kind of. But not really for the right reasons. You're feeling very townie too though I wouldn't call you obvtown.

VOTE: omo
i like this more and more

i dont really want to vote roden rn esp considering the weird "i'll claim now" post that i'll need to revisit now

You gave up on me really quickly.

There's not a lot to read into with my claim post. It's pretty obvious scum bait because only scum has reason to encourage me to claim. I also just don't want to waste time building up a wagon just to dissolve it a couple IRL days from now, we're better off just scum hunting.

I hate this post. It reeks of things I have done as scum. It feels like you’re a scum me. I can’t explain it but you are pinging me hard.