Newbie 2072: All Guns Blazing!! - Ended

[Zyla]

I've got to head out for a bit though, so I'll make more in depth posts when I can

[marcistar]

I'm a little more sus of Marci than I was for taking what look like "easy" votes,

whats ur definition of easy votes wth

[alstroemerial]

Interesting thing here is they vote Val in 293 but make it clear they don't want to wagon/lim the slot. Shortly after, they plant on Portia/Shrek and stay there.

Yeah, my thinking in 293 was roughly a sort of "throw my hands up in the air cause I don't really want to vote Pav anymore but want to vote somewhere", and putting a recorded stake in the Val v Luke thing felt like it could be productive. But by 319 I was really picking up the PR softs from Val which is why I started claiming it was TvT even harder and moved to Portia/Shrek.

Also, I agree with Pav that Marci's votes could be read as "easy", though I'll let Pav answer the question Marci asked.

If NM flipped town it could be worth taking a look at Umlaut -- lots of "middle wagon votes" and fits the mold of trying to get an easy NM miselim out of the way early D1 (I think the justification was on principle). For clarification on Middle wagon votes, I have the following: vote on NM brought him to E-2, on Zyla to E-3, on Shrek to E-2, and then again to E-1.

[alstroemerial]

I will say, I forget which of Val or Luke or both said it, but it was correct that having one of them out made the game a lot quieter

[Pavowski]

I'm a little more sus of Marci than I was for taking what look like "easy" votes,

whats ur definition of easy votes wth

Not a hard-and-fast term, but given that the prospect of a NM elimination was pretty much "meh" on d1 and Zyla was never really in serious danger of getting eliminated -- especially when you voted her -- I would consider those easy votes

[Pavowski]

Marci is Null still, but townier than yesterday

Why is Marci townier today?

[Zyla]

Not a hard-and-fast term, but given that the prospect of a NM elimination was pretty much "meh" on d1 and Zyla was never really in serious danger of getting eliminated -- especially when you voted her -- I would consider those easy votes

So easy as in easy to throw around more than easy as in LHF?

Marci is Null still, but townier than yesterday

Why is Marci townier today?

Less

today

really, and more just since I last posted my reads list, bad wording on my part. Her posts after that point were looking townier to me than the ones before it, so she's just not one of my major suspects atm

[Pavowski]

I'd say it's "easier" to vote somebody to e-3 than to e-1 for example, yeah.

[marcistar]

I'm a little more sus of Marci than I was for taking what look like "easy" votes,

whats ur definition of easy votes wth

Not a hard-and-fast term, but given that the prospect of a NM elimination was pretty much "meh" on d1 and Zyla was never really in serious danger of getting eliminated -- especially when you voted her -- I would consider those easy votes

i agree, my not_mafia was totally just an easy vote. i dont remember if i said around the timebut i wasn't confident at all in that vote, but i didn't want to vote shrek at all.

for the zyla thing, i voted her pretty early on. of course she wouldn't be serious danger of getting elimed.

[marcistar]

oh oop i totally should've put this in that same post

pavowski, so whats ur order rn of least scummiest to scummiest?

[Umlaut]

Really not a fan of Zyla and Alstro lining me up to be the next launch after N_M if he flips town.

(This is mostly a prodge, I'll try to do a reread this weekend though)

[Pavowski]

I'm a little more sus of Marci than I was for taking what look like "easy" votes,

whats ur definition of easy votes wth

Not a hard-and-fast term, but given that the prospect of a NM elimination was pretty much "meh" on d1 and Zyla was never really in serious danger of getting eliminated -- especially when you voted her -- I would consider those easy votes

i agree, my not_mafia was totally just an easy vote. i dont remember if i said around the timebut i wasn't confident at all in that vote, but i didn't want to vote shrek at all.

for the zyla thing, i voted her pretty early on. of course she wouldn't be serious danger of getting elimed.

Kinda my point exactly here, I have yet to see a strong read from you one way or another.

oh oop i totally should've put this in that same post

pavowski, so whats ur order rn of least scummiest to scummiest?

Kinda thought I gave it in my post after looking at d1 votes but I'll make it more explicit, I guess right now my POE looks something like

Luke

Alstro

Umlaut
Marci
Zyla

NM

I think on d1 I was townreading too many folks and now it feels like I am scumreading too many. I am really having a hard time getting a read on Umlaut especially and I don't like it, but he says he'll post more soon and I guess I'll wait on that

[Pavowski]

Meanwhile the day is ticking away

VOTE: Not_Mafia

The push he wants for Luke is opportunistic and doesn't make sense

[Pavowski]

That's e-1 btw.

[Lukewarm]

The urge to lolhammer Not_Mafia is strong, because, well, he is Not_Mafia lol

[Lukewarm]

I've got to head out for a bit though, so I'll make more in depth posts when I can

But I think Zyla has something to say?

So, I will wait for that

[Pavowski]

Would absolutely blow my mind to see a Luke lolhammer in any situation, ever

This is probably your best opportunity

[alstroemerial]

Umlaut, do you not like it because it's you, or because you disagree with my logic?

[Umlaut]

I don't like lining up launches like that in general, but it does make it worse given that I know I'm town.

[Not_Mafia]

Scum team is Heatstroke and Doggoslope

[alstroemerial]

Fair enough on the playstyle thing Umlaut -- from what I've heard, pre-flip associations can be a little wobbly but since one is the leading vote and not many have given you a super hard look I thought I might as well make the observation.

As for Not_Mafia, I'm assuming Heatstroke=Lukewarm but I'm having a hard time figuring out Doggoslope.

[marcistar]

Kinda my point exactly here, I have yet to see a strong read from you one way or another.

having hard time in all my lately games

its been easier to do townreads

[Not_Mafia]

Meanwhile the day is ticking away

VOTE: Not_Mafia

The push he wants for Luke is opportunistic and doesn't make sense

This is a very scummy E-1

[Umlaut]

Meanwhile the day is ticking away

VOTE: Not_Mafia

The push he wants for Luke is opportunistic and doesn't make sense

This is a very scummy E-1

How do you distinguish it from a towny E-1?

I'm ready to hear you out on this but you have to say something.

[Lukewarm]

Just to be clear, I have plan on hammering after Zyla has gotten a chance to check in.

@Not_Mafia, are you gonna claim?