Open 821 | Fall With Your Friends | Endgame

[Dannflor]

holy shit Prism is town

where's the trust

[humaneatingmonkey]

well, Prism always hypes her scum game, so it's silly for me to trust my gut here.

[Something_Smart]

I'm pretty close to trusting Prism. Would you want me to do it first?

[Something_Smart]

I guess really catboi should do it first, though I can't imagine scum-Prism ever takes that.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Are you sure? What about the fact that Prism always hypes her scum game? Do you think as scum, she wouldn't take the easy way out here before she successfully escorts her buddy out?

[Something_Smart]

Am I sure about what? Prism being town?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I guess really catboi should do it first, though I can't imagine scum-Prism ever takes that.

Yes. catboi should do it to Prism. That's the plan. We don't start with townreads trusting other townreads. we should start with scumread trusting townread.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Am I sure about what? Prism being town?

yah

[Something_Smart]

I mean, no, I'm not

sure

, but they're my strongest townread by a large margin, and at some point you just have to put your paranoia aside.

I recall a very strong scum-Prism game from the distant past, and I don't think it was strong in this way. Pretty much everything they've done has resonated with a real desire to advance solving.

That said I'm content to let some other people trust them first, but I highly doubt it will matter much, as even if scum they are probably only leaving with me or you.

[Infinity 324]

I guess really catboi should do it first, though I can't imagine scum-Prism ever takes that.

Yes. catboi should do it to Prism. That's the plan. We don't start with townreads trusting other townreads. we should start with scumread trusting townread.

This probably doesn't help us much because scum can just refuse in this scenario but ok.

[Something_Smart]

Also btw Prism, how town is "definitely town" for HEM? Because it seems like you do still have some paranoia of him (specifically of me/him, despite us being your strongest townreads).

[humaneatingmonkey]

what point would there be to stay in the game? it's still too early to make associatives and this PL is not a push-over anyhow.

[humaneatingmonkey]

catboitrustsprism@gmail.com

[Something_Smart]

Well scum-Prism would rather leave with a universal townread than a universal scumread, because it makes our job harder; e.g. if they leave with catboi then you and I can just go together, but if they leave with you then I don't have an easy partner and catboi is still alive and a problem.

[Prism]

Also btw Prism, how town is "definitely town" for HEM? Because it seems like you do still have some paranoia of him (specifically of me/him, despite us being your strongest townreads).

I would like to answer this more specifically after catboi checks, if you don't mind.

More broadly, for paranoia I can always be wrong, and you can take advantage of biases in order to exacerbate misplaced confidence (my fear with cat), while you two is just straightforward insurance. I lost no sleep over it and it gives a good backup pairing if people don't want me out.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Well scum-Prism would rather leave with a universal townread than a universal scumread, because it makes our job harder; e.g. if they leave with catboi then you and I can just go together, but if they leave with you then I don't have an easy partner and catboi is still alive and a problem.

what you said was

something smart

[Prism]

I don't think metaing me is a great use of time but if you have an academic interest, my last scumgame I start out null intentionally but then decide to just end the game and become a universal TR halfway through. Some non-Newbie games were Owner's Market and The Thaw where I rolled MoI/GreyICE despite being drunk for half of it. The game S_S is referencing is Miss List where town effectively had 6 guesses to get me with only 6 town players.

[Prism]

In contrast, if anyone is interested in those there is an extensive history of me leading town straight off the cliff into like 7 losses and a sub 50 winrate

[Dannflor]

what is the point of the self-meta showcase?

[Prism]

My own ego, nothing to do with the current page at all, feel free to ignore it.

[Dannflor]

no that's perfectly fine I was just wondering there was some ulterior motive

[humaneatingmonkey]

Prism is so badass.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Chuck Norris looks under his bed for Prism.

[Prism]

And I check under my bed for a 73 year old man way too into anime, WWE, and fake cat ears but that's just the circle of life

I don't think I missed any questions for me but I won't be around tonight/tomorrow unless I have downtime on trains, feel free to @ me if I missed anything or you want thoughts

[Infinity 324]

Would it benefit anyone if I trusted monkey here? I don't see the advantage, but I'd be comfortable doing that if it was useful.