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[Dwlee99]

If I was scum who played this bad up to this point and got myself here, I would have self-hammered already

[DkKoba]

I'm vetoing this wagon.

[Dwlee99]

Do you have any points against my case?

[Gypyx]

votecount 5.3

ChaosOmega (4) :

Save The Dragons - ssbm_Kyouko - Dwlee99 - Dragon Of The West

Dislike - 1

Gamma Emerald (1) :

DkKoba

Dwlee99 (1) :

ChaosOmega

Not voting (2) :

Gamma Emerald - Andresvmb

Day 55 ends in (expired on 2021-08-02 14:49:18)

, with 8 alive, it takes 5 to dislike someone

annoncements

Prodding Andresvmb

flavor

summary : Historic history (yeah idk how to summarize it)
would recommend? - Pretty neat story

[Gamma Emerald]

intent to hammer

[Dragon of the West]

Gamma are you targeting Kyo tonight?

[DkKoba]

I'd rather no lim than get chaos.
Dragon, unvote.

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: DW

[Andresvmb]

Also hey Koba.

[Dragon of the West]

VOTE: unvote

[Dragon of the West]

I'd rather no lim than get chaos.
Dragon, unvote.

Why would we no lim -> lim chaos? The whole point of the no lim would be so we can flip gamma after one more investigate

[Dragon of the West]

Oh, thAn. Lol

[Dragon of the West]

DotW - off-brand mason w/ DGB
Gamma - odd-night PT cop
Chaos - VT
Dwlee - VT
ssbm - VT
StD - VT
VFP/DkKoba - ?
Andres - ?

Hey Koba, what's your role?

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma are you targeting Kyo tonight?

if we vote off chaos, yeah

[Dwlee99]

I'd rather no lim than get chaos.
Dragon, unvote.

Do you have any points against my case?

[Dwlee99]

I think funniest timeline is there is a traitor and it's VFP and he was trying to tell you not to get into it with me yesterday with his "barking up the wrong tree" comment.

My tinfoil hat grows stronger with every passing minute.

[DkKoba]

DotW - off-brand mason w/ DGB
Gamma - odd-night PT cop
Chaos - VT
Dwlee - VT
ssbm - VT
StD - VT
VFP/DkKoba - ?
Andres - ?

Hey Koba, what's your role?

No.

[DkKoba]

I noticed that the site meta has changed over time.

It used to be that power roles were helpful to the town, and that claims helped solve the game. This is no longer true.

I just finished playing Sybil's Elegy which was a great example of the role distribution being designed to confuse at best, and F up at worse, the town. I have played others with similar anti-town mod shenanigans.

Here's the deal.

We should not claim, ever.

Treating the game as mountainous will increase our chances of winning.

What we should do (and I include vanilla townies) is to crumb our night choices somehow BEFORE the night. Vanilla townies must crumb fake targets.

When you're dead, and we know your role and alignment, we can go back and use the crumbs for the solve.

Solving games by way of RESULTS and CLAIMED ROLES will not work. It just doesn't work anymore.

DGB speaking wisdom as to why I don't care about claims ever ^

[Dwlee99]

Hey Koba what role are you?

[Dwlee99]

If you have 4 nights of results I think that's important to share?

[Dragon of the West]

DotW - off-brand mason w/ DGB
Gamma - odd-night PT cop
Chaos - VT
Dwlee - VT
ssbm - VT
StD - VT
VFP/DkKoba - ?
Andres - ?

Hey Koba, what's your role?

No.

Just claim
VOTE: Koba

[DkKoba]

DotW - off-brand mason w/ DGB
Gamma - odd-night PT cop
Chaos - VT
Dwlee - VT
ssbm - VT
StD - VT
VFP/DkKoba - ?
Andres - ?

Hey Koba, what's your role?

No.

Just claim
VOTE: Koba

Why?

[DkKoba]

Do you think I'm scum?6

[Dragon of the West]

Just do it. It's worth it

[DkKoba]

Don't care. I replaced in here as a favor to whatever alignment I rolled since its the endgame. I rolled town so I particularly don't care to appease people, especially since apparently my slot is fairly clear from interactions with scum!