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[oʍo]

Dwlee, Roden is just trying to sow discord among people who are towny here because they are probably scum. They are specifically targeting people who are townreading eachother and using weak logic to do so, something that was brought to my attention at Roden's accusation against me.

[Roden]

Because if you can't figure out how to read my posts this is going to be terrible as long as we are both alive.

Refusing to cooperate is a scum tell then. Enjoy your likely Babysitter visit.

[oʍo]

Women = Roden, and I'm not switching because I like owo more. The cliqueyness was half-assed. It can be re-attacked later.

We get it, you're either scum claiming or you're a PR trying to hide yourself with scumminess so you don't get NK'd. Whatever, moving on.

{Looker, Roden, ???}

I'm sorry, what?

Everything up to 172 is RVS, but in no way does it try to get out of RVS

Hi I'm a miller

Would you happen to be...Informed?

informed of DN

What is DN?

Oh no.

I'm not sure what DN is but why do I feel a sinking feeling shit's going sideways?

A Death Neighborizer!?

Deez Nuts

But yeah it feels like RVS is going on a bit too long.

I think scum's getting restless with RVS and is waiting for someone to make a move they can pounce on

general consensus seems to be a dislike of their entry which i think is pretty nai

translation: stop wagoning my partner for wrong reasons

Hero solve: Max + Manatee + Marci

How serious is this?

Here there is a believable attempt to start solving, but since then, feels like a good amount has happened that Roden could be commenting on, especially given they feel RVS is going on too long

general consensus seems to be a dislike of their entry which i think is pretty nai

translation: stop wagoning my partner for wrong reasons

Hero solve: Max + Manatee + Marci

How serious is this?

Didn't get an answer to this.

But instead of continuing to look for solving info they're making a busy post.

VOTE: Roden

Because I didn't comment on everything and instead want to know how serious an accusation is, I'm scum?

It's not so much about what you did, but what you didn't do.

As for you and looker I had individual SRs on you both but then your response to his 220 could be an SvS interaction so it makes me feel better about both reads, especially so for early game

[oʍo]

I think after reconsideration that Max is likely town just based on the fact that I don't think he fits into a solve anymore.

[Roden - MathBlade - Manatee]

[oʍo]

Nevermind. Manatee doesn't fit..........

back to the drawing board, but Roden still scum. I dissipated their wagon in a way that made me the leading one - just some context - and their response to me saying from their POV i should be unlikely scum, they doubled down and said i *could* have done it as scum which is like ???

[Roden]

VOTE: Roden after some thought I think Roden TMId in their response to me regarding my assertion that it is unrealistic from their POV that I helped shut down a wagon on them that I initiated and am scum to them. The motivations for me as scum to do that are dubious at best considering the gamestate at the time.


I thought they were town but perhaps I am threatening their other 2 partners ergo that's dangerous to them - or they need to dismantle a townblock that's formed in a way. I'm still trying to wrap my head around this, as I've been rereading my own ISO and noticed some things I had forgotten about.


The fact this isn't the first time this day phase Roden has made very questionable play in terms of not bad play but like .. dunno how to explain it its just weird/not town motivated.

I'm hungover as shit so not in the mood to really ellaborate but I'll quote Kyouko's case in my next post.

OMO this looks really bad to do just as EoD approaches and we're trying to solidify a DGB elim. You're accusing me of trying to protect my scum buddies but it honestly looks like you're doing the same for DGB. Who exactly am I protecting? Because I literally only trust Kyouko.

I'm not even sure how saying I think you could be scum would somehow disrupt a town block or even threaten you. You're not today's elim and possibly not even tomorrow's depending on the Day and Night flips.

[Dwlee99]

Omo I'm already on Roden lol

[Roden]

Nevermind. Manatee doesn't fit..........

back to the drawing board, but Roden still scum. I dissipated their wagon in a way that made me the leading one - just some context - and their response to me saying from their POV i should be unlikely scum, they doubled down and said i *could* have done it as scum which is like ???

By your own logic against me, it's possible since I helped start and dismantle wagons on Manatee and Marci as well. If you think your actions make you unlikely scum, then why is it not the same for me when I've done the same?

[Roden]

Omo I'm already on Roden lol

State a town reason for refusing to clarify scum reads.

[Dwlee99]

Roden I'm sorry but I think this is literally just you not able to understand what my point was there.

[Roden]

OMO do you think DGB is town?

[Roden]

Roden I'm sorry but I think this is literally just you not able to understand what my point was there.

Then why the fuck won't you just dumb it down for me? Holy shit.

[Dwlee99]

I also think I explained it already and you were still confused and like at that point idk man

[Dwlee99]

[ManateeGal], Titus, and Kyo

@roden

I feel like you keep asking me questions I've already answered or saying things about things I've posted that aren't true.

Why are you editing your own post to make your quote look more credible...?

So if I understand correctly, you told me I was misinterpreting your accusation. You aren't suspecting Kyouko just because she voted you. But here you're directly saying you suspect Manatee and Titus because they voted for you. You even throw in Kyouko

again

and say her vote is terrible.

What exactly am I misinterpreting?

Manateegal is also scum ty for making that obvious

i think ur just susing anyone who votes u and thats kinda weird

I'm mason

urge to make a dad joke

Serious question: What dad joke?

Word wolf warning: I am known for some of the cringiest of dad jokes so spare no expense.

its prob obvious wht its was gonna be, im like the worst at dad jokes its not even funny

I edited "you" to Manatee for readability... Dude what

And it isn't that they're voting me alone. It's that they're voting me for terrible reasons. That's scummy

[Dwlee99]

I edited "you" to Manatee for readability... Dude what

You changed the content and formatting completely. The original post didn't look like the hero solve you tried to make it look like afterwards at all.

And it isn't that they're voting me alone. It's that they're voting me for terrible reasons. That's scummy

What terrible reasons? Were my reasons good then?

Except based on context it's very clearly who I'm scum reading.

I don't even remember why you voted me so I don't know. They probably weren't good reasons if I had to bet based on our conversations.

Except based on context it's very clearly who I'm scum reading.

I don't even remember why you voted me so I don't know. They probably weren't good reasons if I had to bet based on our conversations.

That's the issue then. You can't just scum read everyone who votes in a way you don't like. By your logic, there should be at least four scum in the game, and you've played long to know that just isn't true. You should know better than that by now

Except based on context it's very clearly who I'm scum reading.

I don't even remember why you voted me so I don't know. They probably weren't good reasons if I had to bet based on our conversations.

That's the issue then. You can't just scum read everyone who votes in a way you don't like. By your logic, there should be at least four scum in the game, and you've played long to know that just isn't true. You should know better than that by now

I feel like you just aren't understanding my posts if you still think I scumread people solely for voting where I don't like.

[Roden]

I still think DGB is the correct choice here but I'll consider it a blessing if I get mis-elim'd instead at this point. Dwlee is actually driving me insane.

[Dwlee99]

Okay, let's try this.

I say Kyo is pushing me for a bad and what feels made up reason.

You say "you think people are scummy for pushing you."

Do you see the incongruency?

[Roden]

Okay, let's try this.

I say Kyo is pushing me for a bad and what feels made up reason.

You say "you think people are scummy for pushing you."

Do you see the incongruency?

Technically, yes. Practically speaking, not really. You still think the push itself is scummy, and your reasoning doesnt mean much because of how vague it is. If I said your push on me is bad and has what feels like a made up reason, I don't doubt I would be easily disregarded.

But you did finally clarify what you meant, and that's all I wanted. I think the misunderstanding here is that we both weren't necessarily wrong here but our miscommunication put us at odds. I'm sorry for blowing up at you, I genuinely got frustrated.

[oʍo]

VOTE: Roden after some thought I think Roden TMId in their response to me regarding my assertion that it is unrealistic from their POV that I helped shut down a wagon on them that I initiated and am scum to them. The motivations for me as scum to do that are dubious at best considering the gamestate at the time.


I thought they were town but perhaps I am threatening their other 2 partners ergo that's dangerous to them - or they need to dismantle a townblock that's formed in a way. I'm still trying to wrap my head around this, as I've been rereading my own ISO and noticed some things I had forgotten about.


The fact this isn't the first time this day phase Roden has made very questionable play in terms of not bad play but like .. dunno how to explain it its just weird/not town motivated.

I'm hungover as shit so not in the mood to really ellaborate but I'll quote Kyouko's case in my next post.

OMO this looks really bad to do just as EoD approaches and we're trying to solidify a DGB elim. You're accusing me of trying to protect my scum buddies but it honestly looks like you're doing the same for DGB. Who exactly am I protecting? Because I literally only trust Kyouko.

I'm not even sure how saying I think you could be scum would somehow disrupt a town block or even threaten you. You're not today's elim and possibly not even tomorrow's depending on the Day and Night flips.

For a good portion of the day I was very much looking like I could be a viable lim in the gamestate based on long I was a leading wagon.

[Roden]

@Dwlee:

If you still want to scum read me that's fine. If you think I'm scum though then I highly recommend making a push on me and getting the votes before today ends. A no-elim is 100% worse than a mis-elim.

[Roden]

VOTE: Roden after some thought I think Roden TMId in their response to me regarding my assertion that it is unrealistic from their POV that I helped shut down a wagon on them that I initiated and am scum to them. The motivations for me as scum to do that are dubious at best considering the gamestate at the time.


I thought they were town but perhaps I am threatening their other 2 partners ergo that's dangerous to them - or they need to dismantle a townblock that's formed in a way. I'm still trying to wrap my head around this, as I've been rereading my own ISO and noticed some things I had forgotten about.


The fact this isn't the first time this day phase Roden has made very questionable play in terms of not bad play but like .. dunno how to explain it its just weird/not town motivated.

I'm hungover as shit so not in the mood to really ellaborate but I'll quote Kyouko's case in my next post.

OMO this looks really bad to do just as EoD approaches and we're trying to solidify a DGB elim. You're accusing me of trying to protect my scum buddies but it honestly looks like you're doing the same for DGB. Who exactly am I protecting? Because I literally only trust Kyouko.

I'm not even sure how saying I think you could be scum would somehow disrupt a town block or even threaten you. You're not today's elim and possibly not even tomorrow's depending on the Day and Night flips.

For a good portion of the day I was very much looking like I could be a viable lim in the gamestate based on long I was a leading wagon.

While true, I didn't offer any suspicion towards you until after your wagon died off. If I wanted to mis-elim you I would've just pushed you while there was actual momentum to do so.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I think omo doesnt want to hammer his buddy tbh. Someone hammer DGB and we can look at omo on a red flip. I don't think he has any reason to TR Looker or DGB in his iso on a quick skim, and they are arbitrarily "right above" his poe along with Titus. He was content to compromise with his townreads on Marci or manatee but is now suddenly scrambling to get a wagon somewhere else so close to deadline.

I think it's just the opposite of what hes saying about Roden as well. Omo is the one sowing the discord. We need to stand strong on DGB and flip omo tomorrow if DGB flips red.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

What funny is omo has been with me in voting Roden, manatee, and Marci, but did not vote dwlee when he was a strong wagon and is now not hammering DGB, nor does Dwlee hammer DGB. In fact they are both counterwagoning DGB by trying to push Roden.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I dont think normally that scum commits this hard to grouping together in wagons, but in this game it does make sense, if you are perceived as part of the townblock. I just think the places where omo has wavered are pretty telling and it doesnt feel like a coincidence that Dwlee, the notorious sheep he is, is also unwilling to hammer DGB.

Cut and dry hero solve - owo, dwlee, DGB/Looker

[Dwlee99]

I can vote DGB but fmpov it'd be more of a meta thing than a this game thing which makes me feel uncomfortable because I don't know if <thing that I want to know if DGB justifies its play with>

My thoughts remain this. Convince me homie.