Open 821 | Fall With Your Friends | Endgame

[humaneatingmonkey]

5 CONTESTANTS VIE FOR THE HEART OF ONE YOUNG MAN

[catboi]

Actually, if I may be permitted a brief moment of self-indulgence:

EAT SHIT PRISM, I HAD YOU RIGHT ALL ALONG AND YOU HAD ME WRONG, I WARNED YOU NOT TO AND YOU PAIRED WITH SCUM ANYWAY

凸ಠ益ಠ)凸

Where have you tried to discourage it

Here:

I actually lack for strong scumreads at this point, the early call on something_smart has dimished for me while others have gotten better in my eyes. I harbor doubts on HEM still but part of that is my innate tendency to reflexively OMGUS. I want to clear Prism so they can take their hero trust on HEM, if they're right everything is happy and we have a good shot at winning, if either is scum I presumably end up playing minseweeper with everyone else. Those are acceptable outcomes.

Would anyone scream out in terror if I were to propose the trust now? o(=´∇｀=)o

I am strongly considering accepting Infinity later in the day, mostly when I get home and can really focus again

That would be preferable for me to s_s at this point, but I would actually be fine with you trusting HEM now despite his protestations because I feel like he keeps getting townier, if you would like to print a joint

DO NOT TRUST

on me as your last will, I wouldn't even mind.

S_S and prism should pair today

What makes you have continued confidence on something_smart?

well what about it do you not understand

Why do you want it? What does me trusting you achieve?

You can claim I did not protest loudly or strongly enough, but I had no actual reason to believe a pairing was imminent. I was explicit enough that he was no longer a top townread for me.

[catboi]

I need to catch up fully to actually survey the damage and see what went down.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Where's my trust catboi

[catboi]

I'm an inpatient lad and there's actually no point in slowrolling here. Best of luck partner.

Pretty sure catboi just went out so he gets to mald when he gets back

The upshot of you doing this now is it's no longer possible for you to hard throw the game. Suck me from the back, nerd.

[catboi]

Where's my trust catboi

You blew that chance already, I'm unlikely to give it to you, at least right now. If you're scum it's likely that someone will hand you the game anyway, you don't need to bully me into doing it.

[catboi]

HEM your town equity is way up in my mind now

Can you explain why? I don't see how it follows from S_S scum.

[humaneatingmonkey]

lame

[catboi]

Also Dann I'm more than a bit curious why you townlean me, given that you were trepidatious to townread me last time we played and you still did it and it ended up being a mistake.

I've been deliberately trying to lay "paranoia" as having a strong effect on my reads aside, because it annoys me to no end when applied to me

This makes a lot of sense.

I kinda take the opposite approach, where I frame "paranoia" as "I actually just can't read this person as well as I would like". But I'm not exactly the model of self-confidence.

Dann/S_S possible, this is their only interaction

Not true, actually, there was this sequence as well:

sorry for absence, I keep reading and just feel like I have nothing to worthwhile to add, maybe because I'm a somewhat consensus scum read

I do vibe with catboi's inability to get any strong scum reads. I'm sort of failing to get strong town reads as well though. I feel like i've come close and then something comes along to undermine them immediately everytime, which is a bit demotivating

I will be back tomorrow for a full reread

See, I like this setup, because I never have strong scumreads, and I don't have to be annoyed about that this time

it's just awkward because I don't even know who I would trust at this point

I'm not particularly sure it's meaningful in any way, but it exists and stuck in my mind. My gut wants to say +town on pure feeling but I don't think it'd actually be difficult to do at all.

[catboi]

pretty clearly the blame falls on me, but my desire to hero solve is quite high

Like I said before, the game is now minesweeper: the thing to do is identify town one by one by initiating trusts. If you want to be the hero you're welcome to initiate, but I'm also very motivated to show Prism up here. Correctly identifying the exact remaining final mafia might be a tall order, but I think I can get two, maybe three right. Hopefully.

I've liked your play and approach, although of course the read on something_smart troubles me, and asking for infinity's trust in 659 is kind of odd, to hero solve here you don't really need anyone's trust. I don't know that you'd try to be so bold as to attempt to towncase your partner like that, but it makes me hesitant.

[catboi]

Also Dann I'm more than a bit curious why you townlean me, given that you were trepidatious to townread me last time we played and you still did it and it ended up being a mistake.

Thinking emoji

[MURDERCAT]

Can you explain why? I don't see how it follows from S_S scum.

Prism is confirmed town and there's 1 less scum in the game, plus I was shown to be wrong about the gamestate

[MURDERCAT]

to hero solve here you don't really need anyone's trust

The opportunity for a hero solve is gone, I took my 1 shot per game

[humaneatingmonkey]

inutile is my top townread, and i want to leave the game with her in the last 4 players.

[MURDERCAT]

Whoever is leaving should claim the pair they think should happen next and the two they want to leave

[catboi]

Can you explain why? I don't see how it follows from S_S scum.

Prism is confirmed town and there's 1 less scum in the game, plus I was shown to be wrong about the gamestate

But why does that lead to the conclusion of HEM's town equity being way up? I don't follow what the logic is supposed to be here.

to hero solve here you don't really need anyone's trust

The opportunity for a hero solve is gone, I took my 1 shot per game

Not true, someone should be the person trusting people and clearing them here. If you want to be the one taking charge, you trust your townreads and clear them. But I would advise holding off on that.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Can you explain why? I don't see how it follows from S_S scum.

Prism is confirmed town and there's 1 less scum in the game, plus I was shown to be wrong about the gamestate

But why does that lead to the conclusion of HEM's town equity being way up? I don't follow what the logic is supposed to be here.

to hero solve here you don't really need anyone's trust

The opportunity for a hero solve is gone, I took my 1 shot per game

Not true, someone should be the person trusting people and clearing them here. If you want to be the one taking charge, you trust your townreads and clear them. But I would advise holding off on that.

T R U S T

[catboi]

I think I already have in mind the person I most want to clear, but need to give them a reread first.

[MURDERCAT]

But why does that lead to the conclusion of HEM's town equity being way up? I don't follow what the logic is supposed to be here.

Prism had a strong town read on HEM which is now confirmed, my reads were proven to be not great so I'm doubting them, and 1 less scum means it can't be both Dann and HEM so the likelihood that it's HEM must go down as a result.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I like catboi as town

[MURDERCAT]

I'm waiting for infinity to check in before even thinking about trusts and I hope everyone else does the same

[Infinity 324]

I feel like I should've known in retrospect, given how much of s_s's content was not relevant to solving at all but sigh

This does make me more ok with trusting anyone but catboi or Dann.

[humaneatingmonkey]

trust me infinity

[MURDERCAT]

Infinity what pair do you think should happen next / can you trust me

[humaneatingmonkey]

i like murdercat as town