Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

Hectic · Post Post #4075 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:27 am

Searching for a replacement for clidd.

Disregard. clidd's ban does not affect his ongoing games.

Tanner · Post Post #4076 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:29 am

In post 3964, Morning Tweet wrote:You have to be trolling if you think Tanner as scum will refuse to self hammer on X-1 and proceed to somehow get Chara eliminated, and then SOMEHOW get eliminated himself

this

i don't think there is any universe where i manage to get myself on y-1 to not hammer myself, then decide to stick around to "solve", "accidentally" send chara to heaven (or like, anyone really), and then *still* manage to get myself spared after that. like, even if you think that was my original mastermind plan from the start, i have kiiind of blown it by constantly going "fuck you fuck me fuck this game i want out", don't you think? after throwing multiple fits how i hate this game and don't know how to solve it, you think nobody would bat an eye if i then went "achkhually now i want to stay in the game and solve it, oopsie did i just spare scum :3"?

pedit: oh my god.

Tanner · Post Post #4077 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:30 am

also i had this one bomb ass threory on why clidd/pooky are never ever scum/scum, so in the case that pooky flipped scum we could just insta-spare clidd, but i guess that's pointless now

Flea The Magician · Post Post #4078 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:51 am

In post 4076, Tanner wrote:
In post 3964, Morning Tweet wrote:You have to be trolling if you think Tanner as scum will refuse to self hammer on X-1 and proceed to somehow get Chara eliminated, and then SOMEHOW get eliminated himself
this

i don't think there is any universe where i manage to get myself on y-1 to not hammer myself, then decide to stick around to "solve", "accidentally" send chara to heaven (or like, anyone really), and then *still* manage to get myself spared after that. like, even if you think that was my original mastermind plan from the start, i have kiiind of blown it by constantly going "fuck you fuck me fuck this game i want out", don't you think? after throwing multiple fits how i hate this game and don't know how to solve it, you think nobody would bat an eye if i then went "achkhually now i want to stay in the game and solve it, oopsie did i just spare scum :3"?

pedit: oh my god.

Alternatively, you can just not bait me.

Ydrasse today.

VOTE: Ydrasse

Tanner · Post Post #4079 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:06 am

funnily enough as i was reading what i missed, i got the feeling of "hey, wouldn't it be funny if this were a ydra/flea team", though i think that regardless of faer alignment, flea pushes for ydra today so the post above this one isn't that helpful

what did occur to me - flea spent a good amount of time yelling yesterday how it doesn't matter if fae is scum bc fae is never leaving the pit, etc, etc. now this was making me doubt scum!flea because scum!fae *has* to ascend, and it's gonna be really really difficult for fae to suddenly start arguing for faer own spare. since, it seemed like one townie was gonna be able to stay behind.

however, with the reveal that there is another "nightkill" and that we need to spare *all* townies if we wanna win - that gives scum!flea a very easy and natural opening onto pushing faerself (is that the correct form?) as a spare later on. because all town needs to be spared now. if i were to assume that scum knew that they were gonna have another "nightkill" tonight and that the town will have to spare every town member if they wanna win... it's making one of my main doubts on scum!flea kind of disappear right now.

ydra feels like the most likely partner for flea, since chara/flea would be kind of a meme, and clidd/flea would require scum!clidd to blatantly push a pro!town wincon without even trying to grab towncred. i don't think ether are necessarily *impossible*, but gun-to-head that's what i would say.

aaand now that i type that out, i do start thinking how there's been much fewer flea/chara interactions that flea/tanner interactions, and how that's weird if we're both lockscum to fae, but it could be that i'm a much more reactive player to that type of thing than chara. will think about this should it become relevant.

Ydrasse · Post Post #4080 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:09 am

Ydrasse · Post Post #4081 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:10 am

sorry @pooky

Flea The Magician · Post Post #4082 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:14 am

Spoiler: Trolooololololllolololol lololollllll

Grouplist

MIN 1 ->
Chara
/
Norwee
/
Pooky
MIN 1 -> Ydrasse /
Morning Tweet
/
Tanner
/
Chara
MAX 1 ->
Tanner
/
Amy
/
Robert
MIN 1 ->
Nakata
/
Infinity
/
Ircher
MIN 2 ->
Chara
/
Ircher
/
Nakata
/
Infinity
MIN 1 -> Ydrasse /
Amy Dunne
/ clidd /
Infinity
/
Morning Tweet
MIN 1 ->
Tanner
/ Ydrasse /
Norwee
MIN 2 ->
Tanner
/
Amy
/
Robert
/ Ydrasse /
Chara
MIN 1 -> Flea /
Nakata
/
Pooky
HAS 0 ->
Morning Tweet
/ Clidd /
Pooky
MIN 1? ->
Amy
/ Ydrasse /
Nakata

Clearlist

Ircher
- 1656
Ydrasse - 1656
Amy
- 1656 / D3 Start
Robert
- PoE bias-clear / D2 flip
Norwee
- N1 Flip
Flea - 2642

In post 3744, Flea The Magician wrote:8 in game. 5+1 vs 2
Mislim. 5+1 vs 1
Kill. 4+2 vs 1
Elim. 3+2 vs 1.
Kill. 3+3 vs 1.
Elim 2+3 vs 1.
Kill 1+4 vs 1
Coinflip.

Tanner · Post Post #4083 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:15 am

In post 4079, Tanner wrote:and clidd/flea would require scum!clidd to blatantly push a pro!town wincon without even trying to grab towncred.

actually is this true? clidd was pushing tweetie/tanner/ydra/pooky at some points in some order - he'd know (assuming all town) that at max town can spare of those is 3, and even then he wasn't pushing all 4 at the same time (removed ydra, added pooky), which would mean he knew that max two of the people he was pushing at any given time could be spared... i guess it makes clidd!scum more plausible than before? god fuckin

Ydrasse · Post Post #4084 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:15 am

i think we have to figure out flea Now, which is obvious but it didn't feel as urgent to me before we had a bit more breathing room, but i don't know if fae is going to like... cooperate? like

@flea this is very much a plea for you to, at least for a bit, play 'traditional mafia' to sort you because all i have right now are speculations on your motivations and like, "oh would flea do this as town or scum?" and no reads or actions to judge you off of and if youre town that fucking sucks!! i can look at everyone else here and see they have tried to solve and figure out something and i go back if i want to and read these things and draw conclusions but with you you've dug your heels in so much like, do you actually /townread me/ or does it just fit within the yin thing?

Flea The Magician · Post Post #4085 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:15 am

Spoiler: Oops didn't do the whole thing.

Ydrasse · Post Post #4086 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:17 am

like genuinely my impression at this point is that you want to be RIGHT about things more than you want to actually solve and that doesn't help anyone except scum which if you are, kudos to you i guess?

Flea The Magician · Post Post #4087 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:17 am

I saw something about me having to be cooperative, denied.

I'm pulling a N_M. I'm just here to troll. This game has taken too much out of me already, I've had to deal with transphobes over the weekend on another site, and this game isn't worth my effort.

You have my solve, i'm done trying to convince you.

Ydrasse · Post Post #4088 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:17 am

Ydrasse · Post Post #4089 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:17 am

okay i guess. lol.

Ydrasse · Post Post #4090 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:18 am

part of me really wants to go "flea doesnt say That as scum" but i dont fucking know

Tanner · Post Post #4091 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:19 am

VOTE: tanner

Tanner · Post Post #4092 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:20 am

ydra, you feeling any better?

Ydrasse · Post Post #4093 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:20 am

ehhh

physically yes emotionally... getting there?

Flea The Magician · Post Post #4094 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:22 am

Ydrasse first tanner, or are you scared?

Tanner · Post Post #4095 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:25 am

you mean the person whom my townread on has kind of fallen off in the last day phase? i'll pass, thanks.

@ydra, i feel like we had ~unfinished conversations~ on your read/mindmeld on me throughout the game, which is why i asked - don't wanna be making you push yourself (god knows this game is a headache) but i feel like that might be useful to talk about in more detail.

Ydrasse · Post Post #4096 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:26 am

In post 4095, Tanner wrote:you mean the person whom my townread on has kind of fallen off in the last day phase? i'll pass, thanks.

@ydra, i feel like we had ~unfinished conversations~ on your read/mindmeld on me throughout the game, which is why i asked - don't wanna be making you push yourself (god knows this game is a headache) but i feel like that might be useful to talk about in more detail.

idk how long ill be sticking around this afternoon but i'm here now so what's the most like, important to answer immediately?

Flea The Magician · Post Post #4097 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:27 am

That's remarkably convenient, Tanner. :3c

Flea The Magician · Post Post #4098 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:28 am

oh and for the record ydrasse, you are obvious town here for me.
Your approach this game just has the purest townie vibes.

Ydrasse · Post Post #4099 (ISO) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:30 am

In post 4098, Flea The Magician wrote:oh and for the record ydrasse, you are obvious town here for me.
Your approach this game just has the purest townie vibes.

...okay like, if you think im town

you should assume im asking you in good faith to explain why so i can sort /you/? because if youre town i cant read your mind and figure that out from the yin stuff, it doesnt work for me