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[DkKoba]

What do you think I'm gonna do in a 4k post game?

Ofc I'm gonna pick out keywords to find key reads/statements from people and compare them to flips you're just howling

[Dwlee99]

Discuss if there are 2 scum left with Koba, who seems most convinced of it.

[DkKoba]

oh this is a 17 player game yah there's def no more scum lol

i thought this was 21p

[DkKoba]

Townslip gang

[Dwlee99]

Koba reminds me of when Menalque pushed me in Dead Silence.

[Andresvmb]

Anyway I’m out of here. I’ll check back at some point tomorrow but I am traveling over the next few days so @Mod I’m VLA until Thursday. Just so I stop getting prodded. I will still post just not often.

[Dwlee99]

Andres if I tell you day 2 I was embarrassed does that help you understand what I was saying earlier?

[Dwlee99]

Okay I'm just going to have to trust two of gamma/Kyo/dotw don't end day before I can continue this conversation with you.

[Gamma Emerald]

oh this is a 17 player game yah there's def no more scum lol

i thought this was 21p

Townslip gang

Honestly that’s probably a legit townslip mostly because I had the same issue where I kept being unsure of whether it was a 17p or 21p
So I can see the thought process behind it

[Dwlee99]

Okay I'm just going to have to trust two of gamma/Kyo/dotw don't end day before I can continue this conversation with you.

@these three for real don't end day before I continue this

[Dwlee99]

And to Koba, if you're town, you have no right to condescend to me about my town play after you faked a guilty on town and never rescinded. That we won that game had everything to do with 1.) T3 fucking up and 2.) Me pushing t3 to investigate Manatee who I thought was evil.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Now, Kyouko’s voting history is horrific. They’ve found ways to avoid every Scum execution I think.

I think I was on Titus, and iirc I was offline around osuka's lim. I remember coming back to the locked thread, not sure if he was a flash wagon or not though.

What I want is for those who are voting for Chaos to explain themselves outside of DW who already has tried to. I just don’t think TMI and vote parking Scum are particularly strong arguments.

I think rathe was town so I'm looking to run through poe. I dont think scum has a traitor so I'm looking at Chaos>Dwlee and game should be over in one of those 2. Limming me is fine as well as long as the check is in chaos, dwlee.

[Dwlee99]

Kyo/Gamma no quick day, agreed?

[Gypyx]

votecount 5.5

Dwlee99 (3) :

ChaosOmega - Andresvmb - DkKoba

ssbm_Kyouko (2) :

Save The Dragons - Gamma Emerald

ChaosOmega (2) :

Dragon Of The West - ssbm_Kyouko

Not voting (1) :

Dwlee99

Day 5 ends in (expired on 2021-08-02 14:49:18)

, with 8 alive, it takes 5 to dislike someone

annoncements

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flavor

summary : cs:go clip
would recommend? - no

[Dragon of the West]

yes that's about what i was getting at - bogging things down in some boring "correct" argument is how i'd expect scum to approach someone coming out with a wacky plan to start the day - it's an easy point to make and offers basically nothing. i hit him with my vote for it and didn't like the response.

nero of course is dead set on trying to misconstrue that i was arguing that no one should claim at all in accordance with dgb, which is not what i was trying to say and i don't think someone making an honest reading could get that (except T3, but he's a special case)

If anything it feels like your vote should be towards Nero more than Dwlee.
With the above it just seems more that players like Dwlee and T3 are mis understanding your view while Nero is using this to push agenda.

I don't think Nero is, and I don't think that this scum read is strong enough to have had Dwlee in the lead votes at this point.
How does Dwlee town react to DGB's plan?

Also, what is the mod information / meta you have?
Assuming this relates to the information you were talking about?

i think both are scummy, i haven't seen anything from dwlee that felt like cause to unvote so i've kept my vote there

don't know dwlee, not going to imagine up some response to dgb that i would read as town because it suits my taste. i

could

see town seeing that post by dgb and arguing against it (i haven't raised that issue with everyone reacting negatively to it), it was a combination of how he chose to respond to it, which felt like he was arguing in a way to score points rather than advance the game + his reaction to my voting him, where he just clumsily pulled the "i know you are but what am i?" card to an early attack. didn't feel natural.

i'll get into the mod meta stuff in a bit, it deserves its own post

oh weird I wonder what happened the next night phase after peta was pushing this

Peta got a replacement before they died...and Cyrus probably got NK'd when they did because they claimed. Honestly Koba I think you're cherry picking shit you aren't reading the context of

[Dragon of the West]

Ironically STD is also a pretty safe vote.

STD is always scummy and scum can always safely sneak their vote through or push for his elimination.

nom sounds like irritated town.

nom and nero are tvt.

Nah, Nero is scum.

I don't want to think about the neighbors right now.

Well I do because they are both scum.

nero is back to fucking howling, huh

He's really slimy and manipulative in this game.

Nomnomnom is Town. If anybody tries to execute there, they’re Scum. Just so we’re clear.

I agree.

DGB if you think anya/ssbm are scum together what do you think of peta saying that's unlikely?

Peta is entitled to his opinion, you manipulative little scum.

VOTE: Nero Cain

The neighbors are still scum.

VOTE: Anya

POE is Rathe, STD, Anya, ChaosOmega and Andres.

@koba, here's just a smorgasbord of DGB takes that kinda shows they just threw scum accusations at everyone...them saying something about Dwlee is pretty meaningless

[Dragon of the West]

Like holy shit that sequence was so fucking bad. Did VFP actually do that bus there?

Lmao I'm getting worried about that especially since they won't claim. They did drop the 1v1 and not go back there at all...

[Dwlee99]

For DGB's sake I hope that 2961 has at least one mafia in it.

[Dragon of the West]

I mean Koba isn’t a traitor unless you want to argue VFP really wanted to sink their buddies repeatedly this game.

Tbf that jump on Titus at the end doesn't really get them any town cred...it was obvious Titus was getting limmed and they just hammered without much added

[Dwlee99]

I still think we should have a pool for Cyrus to visit. There should be no reason to why any of the below names aren't in there.

Me, Osuka, Save The Dragon, Vax, Raithe (can replace 1 if the lim is here or stick to the last 4)
The pool can be edited to match what favours but I think keeping 5 names like this has scum 100% and therefore means they are cautious on the kill.
If they do decide to make 2 kills and take out Cylus then we are losing a potential mis lim anyway.

There is also this post, which with jailkeeper scum!VFP could be assured that they can't die, but they must have used the jailkeeper on Anya that night and they included the jailkeeper in the pool.

Thinking about Koba games, I want to know if this is the same way they approached the person they fake guiltied in FIA WRC. It feels more frustrating right now, but of course it is much more frustrating to be on the receiving end of it than watching it, and so I'm thinking this approach could maybe come from town!koba.

VOTE: Chaos

I'm just going back to this. If neither this or Kyo (or gamma) is evil, MELO is going to be terrible.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Kyo/Gamma no quick day, agreed?

[Gamma Emerald]

Kyo/Gamma no quick day, agreed?

What does this mean

[Dwlee99]

Just that I want to talk to Andre before day ends.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay

[ChaosOmega]

DotW, come out of Dwlee's pocket for air and let's talk a minute.

Think about why T3 was killed over you:

I'm confused why scum killed t3 of all people. Like, even if the PT cop cleared the slot wouldn't killing DotW be better there?

I agree with this. In a vacuum, you're conftown and he's guaranteed not group-scum but could possibly be traitor. From that, it makes sense that you would be the NK. You were kept alive for a reason. You said this at the end of D4:

Who does she make sense as partners with?

Chaos or Kyo

You're confirmed to be town, it's not surprising that you would be the NK. If one of me or ssbm is the last scum, there's no reason you're not killed here. You're expected to die after DGB flips, it would be easy enough to play off you were killed because of that and not due to your reads. But you weren't killed. Since you trust Dwlee so much, here's a quote from him:

T3 was literally doing nothing I wouldn't kill him.

Disagree with the 2nd part (which we'll get to), but I tend to agree with the first. He was really doing nothing but sheeping wagons. I don't think T3 was killed because he was on to something, I think he was killed to keep you alive since your reads are so wrong. You should be having alarm bells going off in your head and re-evaluating your positions, since if you were close to being on the right track here, you would not be alive for me to have this convo with.