Newbie 2071: The Sandwich Debate - End!

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 2-6

In the general scheme of hot sandwich making, "seal it and slice it" sandwich makers are somewhat niche. The vast majority of sandwich appliances press down on the sandwich and its fillings and grill the bread. Many are multi-function with grill plates for waffles, too.

Looker

(2): HockeyFan, T3

Not Voting

(5): Looker, Clasko, Lady Lambdadelta, GrandpaMo, petapan

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

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[T3]

mine

[Looker]

Is that not the whole scum team on my wagon

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Clasko has given me what I was looking for, I don't see a reason in progressing further today.

Vote: T3

[T3]

Clasko has given me what I was looking for, I don't see a reason in progressing further today.

Vote: T3

[T3]

I'm mason with fferryllt

[petapan]

Progress the game? This is why I say this game is subjective - I don't see how beleaguering a point with walls of text (which can be easily misinterpreted and spun to agenda like most things on this site are) is progressing the game any more than stating your sentiments concisely and directly. Not saying I hate walls of text, just saying that most of these "cases" (i.e. HockeyFan saying I haven't tried to progress the game) come down to personality and playstyle differences. You end up with two jobs as town - find the mafia and win a popularity contest.

i mean

do you think hockeyfan really believes that or is he making a generic sounding accusation to eliminate you

[petapan]

dont gotta answer that now of course

VOTE: T3


fwiw i did a check on t3's meta and he's not as consistently bus-y in newbie games so i guess that evidence doesn't work, still think him and hockeyfans stances on each other are very telling. i can go into the cows nk for a bit though.

[T3]

dont gotta answer that now of course

VOTE: T3


fwiw i did a check on t3's meta and he's not as consistently bus-y in newbie games so i guess that evidence doesn't work, still think him and hockeyfans stances on each other are very telling. i can go into the cows nk for a bit though.

He scumread my partner.

[T3]

VOTE: t3

[Looker]

VOTE: T3

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[fferyllt]

Vote Count 2-7

Bahn mi is a Vietnamese hot sandwich made with chicken and lots of pickled vegetables, typically carrots, daikon, onion, pickled or fresh hot chilies, cilantro and a squeeze of lime.

T3

(4): Lady Lambdadelta, petapan, T3, Looker

Looker

(1): HockeyFan

Not Voting

(2): Clasko, GrandpaMo

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An Elimination Has Been Achieved!

[fferyllt]

T3 was a

Mafia Goon

.

Night 2 begins now. Night actions are due on Monday, July 26, Midnight US Eastern Time.

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[fferyllt]

Clasko died last night. He was a

Town Cop

.

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 3-1

Day 3 Begins!

Most countries have a -- or several -- hot sandwiches for which they are famous. Portugal's Francesinha features ham and sausage as the filling, is topped with melted cheese and a fried egg, and is smothered with tomato-and-beer gravy.

Not Voting

(5): looker, Lady Lambdadelta, HockeyFan, GrandpaMo, petapan

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[petapan]

hi

i intend to give this game a full read for the sake of due diligence (although in my looking at ISOs it seems exceptionally dense for a newbie game), but my inclination is still to think that it's hockeyfan because in newbie games typically the surface level reading of the game ends up being the correct one

[HockeyFan]

Some thoughts start of d3

Looker- About post 1047, what i meant specifically is I hadn't seen much content from u. The only things I could see were (940 and 971). Like this is the only real content I saw from u on d2. The rest was just observing things. Even out of the 2 posts of 940 and 971, I can only give u “town-points” for 971 even though I dont agree with it(for obvious reasons ). Your post 940 makes no sense? “Im only town if Clakso has a result on me”. like ??

LLD- I’ve been mentally drained the past week or so, so I haven't had the chance to re-read the game, but I think slot is towny. The only thing I dont really like is 1015. They were trying too hard to discredit my read when it was based of smth as simple as POE. The majority of that post was WIFOM too

Peta- Im too dumb to get a read on this slot. I know for a fact that they are able to do their mini analysis as either alignment so im mind fucked on how to read this slot cuz the rest of their posts are neither towny or scummy

Gpa- At least for the beginning of d3, I am still willing to TR this.

[petapan]

I know for a fact that they are able to do their mini analysis as either alignment

er, how do you know this? it's correct, but i'm not sure how you'd have a way of knowing


truthfully, almost nothing i do this game is going to be alignment-indicative, because when i replaced in, one mafia was already outed. the reads i gave were largely the ones i had prior to getting my role, so they'd be "honest" even had i replaced a scum slot. i'm not saying this to create uncertainty around me, i just want the newbies in the game to understand - the only real way to read my slot is going to be through reading the actions of VFP and deciding whether they make sense as coming from mafia

[HockeyFan]

I know for a fact that they are able to do their mini analysis as either alignment

er, how do you know this? it's correct, but i'm not sure how you'd have a way of knowing

Its more of that fact that you've been on this site since 2012 X.X. u also seem like an experienced player

truthfully, almost nothing i do this game is going to be alignment-indicative, because when i replaced in, one mafia was already outed. the reads i gave were largely the ones i had prior to getting my role, so they'd be "honest" even had i replaced a scum slot. i'm not saying this to create uncertainty around me, i just want the newbies in the game to understand - the only real way to read my slot is going to be through reading the actions of VFP and deciding whether they make sense as coming from mafia

Yea, about "reading" the actions VFP did, I did TR them a abit start of d2, but I havent read over it in a long time so not sure

[Looker]

I responded to GrandpaMo the way I did because I'm old - instead of trying to feed him some subjective pandering nonsense, I tried to speak objectively: the only way he would concretely see me as town was if Clasko had a result on me. Everything else comes across as wishy-washy beggy bullshit or WIFOM.

[Looker]

With that being said, am I allowed to question VFP replacing out as soon as T3 was caught? Or how the 1v1 between T3 and VFP didn't move to VFP but instead went to James?

[petapan]

With that being said, am I allowed to question VFP replacing out as soon as T3 was caught? Or how the 1v1 between T3 and VFP didn't move to VFP but instead went to James?

you're allowed to speculate on it but VFP replaced out of all of his games sitewide and this is verifiable fact, so should be taken as non alignment indicative

[HockeyFan]

I responded to GrandpaMo the way I did because I'm old - instead of trying to feed him some subjective pandering nonsense, I tried to speak objectively: the only way he would concretely see me as town was if Clasko had a result on me. Everything else comes across as wishy-washy beggy bullshit or WIFOM.

I think we both have different interpretations on what "towncasing" yourself means. I think it means showing all the town things u've done and then other people can decide if you are town/interpret it however they want to

[Looker]

Maybe. I just feel it's obvious. I didn't kill James and I hammered T3. Look at the actions of other players - I don't know what more there is to say. I think people just want to post because that's what they find fun about the game.

[petapan]

Maybe. I just feel it's obvious. I didn't kill James and I hammered T3. Look at the actions of other players - I don't know what more there is to say. I think people just want to post because that's what they find fun about the game.

i mean, yea

don't know what you get out of the game tbh