Newbie 2071: The Sandwich Debate - End!

[Looker]

Guessing who the scum are and being right lol. It's inconsequential gambling.

[Looker]

Also, pagetops

[petapan]

acceptable

so do you have a guess for who the scum is right now?

[HockeyFan]

Maybe. I just feel it's obvious. I didn't kill James and I hammered T3. Look at the actions of other players - I don't know what more there is to say. I think people just want to post because that's what they find fun about the game.

Fair enough

[GrandpaMo]

you're allowed to speculate on it but VFP replaced out of all of his games sitewide and this is verifiable fact, so should be taken as non alignment indicative

You aren't allowed to speculate on replacements -- that's a like a norm rule known site wide, however, it can differ with mods.

But angleshooting / or replacement speculation is usually not allowed.

[GrandpaMo]

Also I am not in favor of a quick hammer in the pervious day just because we had scum confirmed, I still wanted to use the day to get more info from the confirmed cop, and others to see more interactions with other people.

A short day only benefits scum.

[GrandpaMo]

truthfully, almost nothing i do this game is going to be alignment-indicative, because when i replaced in, one mafia was already outed. the reads i gave were largely the ones i had prior to getting my role, so they'd be "honest" even had i replaced a scum slot. i'm not saying this to create uncertainty around me, i just want the newbies in the game to understand - the only real way to read my slot is going to be through reading the actions of VFP and deciding whether they make sense as coming from mafia

I highly and respecfully disagree.

There is many many things that could be allignment indicitve, but to you it may seem NAI because you have had a history of your own knowledgeable meta that "hey, I know I am town because of this and this and I know I am scum when I also do this so its NAI" but once you get to get into more newbie games or even more games, you will realize you may see a pattern, you should know this. There is things that may seem NAI to you but AI to us etc etc.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also I am not in favor of a quick hammer in the pervious day just because we had scum confirmed, I still wanted to use the day to get more info from the confirmed cop, and others to see more interactions with other people.

A short day only benefits scum.

Not true, as it happens. At a certain point, longer days begin to turn into Apathy. Town apathy loses games. You need to move on from a stagnant position, at some point. Clasko made their final words, they are headed. We had to move forward.

I have no intention of rushing this day, however. I think I know where I want to vote, but that doesn't mean there's nothing to be done.

[petapan]

agree with that, when we had confirmed scum decided as the day's elimination and clasko had said all he wanted, it was time for the day to end

[Looker]

What questions did you want answered? Were you V/LA?

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 3-2

Is this a sandwich?

Not Voting

(5): Looker, Lady Lambdadelta, HockeyFan, GrandpaMo, petapan

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to eliminate.

Deadline: August 2, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-08-01 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- fferyllt-Cabd combined ISO for vote counts
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[HockeyFan]

Hey @gpa, whos your top kill today

[HockeyFan]

Okay, so I looked back through VFP's interactions with t3 and I can confidently say that this slot is not paired with t3, therefore town. VFP spent all of d1 pushing T3 which I dont think thats scum/scum. Also, vfp started pushign t3 right as d1 satrted which once again makes VFP slot town(petapan in this case).

Posts like 243,266,399,443 are town and makes me think they are not paired

Me tring VFP means I'm probably wrong on Gpa and I'm going to move them back to null. The people I still SR(LLD/looker) stay the same atm

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Okay, so I looked back through VFP's interactions with t3 and I can confidently say that this slot is not paired with t3, therefore town. VFP spent all of d1 pushing T3 which I dont think thats scum/scum. Also, vfp started pushign t3 right as d1 satrted which once again makes VFP slot town(petapan in this case).

Posts like 243,266,399,443 are town and makes me think they are not paired

Me tring VFP means I'm probably wrong on Gpa and I'm going to move them back to null. The people I still SR(LLD/looker) stay the same atm

Explain why GPA is higher on your townlist than I am, using examples from the game of why you think I'm scum and they are town.

[HockeyFan]

Okay, so I looked back through VFP's interactions with t3 and I can confidently say that this slot is not paired with t3, therefore town. VFP spent all of d1 pushing T3 which I dont think thats scum/scum. Also, vfp started pushign t3 right as d1 satrted which once again makes VFP slot town(petapan in this case).

Posts like 243,266,399,443 are town and makes me think they are not paired

Me tring VFP means I'm probably wrong on Gpa and I'm going to move them back to null. The people I still SR(LLD/looker) stay the same atm

Explain why GPA is higher on your townlist than I am, using examples from the game of why you think I'm scum and they are town.

You being scum(668,693,856,1015)

668

- I still don't get the intention of Tring someone page 4 when they had like 5 words. I’m aware this is a tonal read from you, but i still find it scummy

693

- Once again,I respect that you use tones for your reads but like what is this? You made this comment just so you can set up future reads BASED on “tonal”.+scum points

856

- Dont get why this is the case? Why does it have to flow through you? I don't know if this is necessarily /scum/ leaning but like it doesn't make sense

1015

- I mentioned it earlier, but this whole post was WIFOMY trying to discredit my POE. There is some merit to it, but I don't like how the entire post was WIFOM

Grandpa being town(Posts 269,329,942)

269

- I dont think their first /semi/ serious vote is on their partner

329

- Grandpa specifically said that he thought it was a bad post but did not continue to tunnel me and possibly get me /mcd/. Why? Because he's town.

942

- I mostly think this post is town because it has the same thoughts as me about looker needing to towncase themselves through their action

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Anyone else see the problem with this from Hockey?

I have gone from about 80/20 to 95/5 Hockey being scum from that response. Mostly because I kind of see what the path is for him now.

[HockeyFan]

Anyone else see the problem with this from Hockey?

I have gone from about 80/20 to 95/5 Hockey being scum from that response. Mostly because I kind of see what the path is for him now.

You just moved it from 80/20 to 95/5 because my "path" has you as scum in it right?

[Looker]

Are we waiting for prods or can I vote already? I think I have a good guess of who it is. Don't want to end the day early, though, since, apparently, that was a big deal last time.

[fferyllt]

GrandpaMo and petapan have been prodded.

[HockeyFan]

Are we waiting for prods or can I vote already? I think I have a good guess of who it is. Don't want to end the day early, though, since, apparently, that was a big deal last time.

I mean, u can give the guess now, it doesnt end the day early at all.

[petapan]

sorry for being inactive, forgot newbie times are on a shorter timer, have been busy with other things, will try to get my reading in today

[petapan]

i'm actually reading from the beginning now and i can't believe people voted james on day 1

[petapan]

Are we waiting for prods or can I vote already? I think I have a good guess of who it is. Don't want to end the day early, though, since, apparently, that was a big deal last time.

just vote there's no need to be such a snarky jerk in a newbie game

[petapan]

why do u want to have a Universval tr 5 pages in? Are you trying to get your mafia teamamate Utr'd? Also I dont see the appeal for Tr'ing James, so what makes u TR james?

seems like you dont want the POE to be shrunk
it would be a good strategy if we were not in newd3 and if i was actually charismatic
neither of which are really the case
post #111 was my reasoning. since you started out in the same community i think, i'm wondering about your two cents on what i said

eh I think its mostly NAI, i think ppl who say they're VT appear as they're town to not get sussed later

i do not like this post!

[petapan]

Anyone else see the problem with this from Hockey?

I have gone from about 80/20 to 95/5 Hockey being scum from that response. Mostly because I kind of see what the path is for him now.

you're going to have to explain it to me because i don't see it