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[Esooa]

I think its weird you start getting defensive after I out my reads list with you at the bottom while I'm pushing someone else mainly rather than when I had actually pushed you with a vote.

I didn't think your read was real, almost at all. I figured it was just a RT, especially with how bad the reasons were. Now that you've said nothing to continue it but still hold the read though I don't think that anymore

like how're you comparing this game to a wolf game where I was in wolf chat saying "this game sucks, I want to die and I'm just gonna slank tbh"

You think that's just how I wolf every game? Really?

[T3]

UNVOTE: Esooa

[Ich Troje]

I think its weird you start getting defensive after I out my reads list with you at the bottom while I'm pushing someone else mainly rather than when I had actually pushed you with a vote.

I didn't think your read was real, almost at all. I figured it was just a RT, especially with how bad the reasons were. Now that you've said nothing to continue it but still hold the read though I don't think that anymore

like how're you comparing this game to a wolf game where I was in wolf chat saying "this game sucks, I want to die and I'm just gonna slank tbh"

You think that's just how I wolf every game? Really?

That isn't what I thought was similar.

[Esooa]

shrug, maybe that's just how I see it cause saying my preferred way of wolfing is sitting back is just... pretty ridiculous to everyone who actually knows me

My biggest wolf tell is legitimately that I will go after the strongest towns in a lobby and perpetually PoE them, though I don't always play like that obviously it's my preferred way of wolfing

And you're here saying "I know Esooa's meta and she is quiet as a wolf"

[Dannflor]

Esooa can you elaborate on your nsg read

[Esooa]

like I don't expect people to read all these at all but it's really annoying so here

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/31166

Town game I was very active/did a lot of analysis (was champs so obv)

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ountainous

Town game I slanked all game except some random reads, pretty much @'d my top town and asked them who to vote most days

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/30240

wolf game I barely posted and got yeeted p early

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/29813

wolf game I top posted, did a ton of analysis, end gamed

Like, if you want to read me off some meta stuff fine, but reading my activity/how subdued I am is 100% not AI and it just gets annoying

[Esooa]

Esooa can you elaborate on your nsg read

sure

[T3]

Esooa is way townier. I think her linking to MU meta is +town and I think her reaction is genuine.

[T3]

The genuine reaction is mostly gut.

[Esooa]

North has said nothing scummy idk why there's a wagon on them

i think that if i were RC i would kill you for this post alone

I town read NSG pretty early for actually calling out this post. Not that important in my read now but

how well do you think you can wolf?

i'm unsure. i sort of wanted to roll scum this game because it's been quite a long time since i've played scum and i have a somewhat poor reputation for it, so i was interested in sort of testing my skills. unfortunately that did not happen.

people say a lot of different things about me and how good or bad i am at things. few, i think, are accurate.

town.

also meh, maybe i'm overthinking dannflor's play with regards to me.

Maybe. But it was pretty villagery regardless, so that's cool

glad to know.

VOTE: esooa

I think NSG's play around my slot after the fact is towny. I think it's less likely she'd see me town read her and then wolf read me, especially subtly in the way she did

flow trap it would be helpful if you would take this game a bit more seriously

also, @flow trap, what is your actual read on esooa? do you actually scumread her?

also interested to hear dann's opinion on esooa's ISO up until this point.

and her engagement with the read is good imo, these read like genuinely having the read and trying to explore it, more than for show. Especially considering if it was for show I'd expect her to put more out there on

why

she wolf reads me at this point, not trying to explore slots in relation to me

would you agree that there's something a little unbelievable about the idea that this seems to be your reaction only when prompted for reads instead of your immediate reaction to seeing that post?

would you further agree that, if you think that that is the wolfiest post in the thread, the fact that your initial reaction to what troje said about your meta was to imply that they were not up to date on it rather than to think that they were scum simply lying to push you somewhat indicates that you actually believe (or are informed) that troje is town?

and like I've said I think these posts have good depth of thought. I think one of the, more difficult reads to make as a wolf? is accusing townies of TMI--it's hard to see that when you do yourself

[Esooa]

I don't really know what to think about T3's posts recently. I have a headache and need to get ready for hanging out with a friend though so I'm not going to be thinking about it rn lol

[Esooa]

VOTE: redtea I dunno where this guy is and I want him back lol

[Esooa]

VOTE: redtea I dunno where this guy is and I want him back lol

[Farren]

Ich
flow trap
Enchant
Dannflor
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redtea
northsidegal
Esooa
T3

T3's at the bottom of the list. I don't think I've ever seen anybody do that before.

Given the reads, everything else appears to line up with top=Town, bottom=scum.

That seems too weird to be a slip. I'd say maybe +Town in a vacuum?

[Dannflor]

t3 faking a scum slip for a joke?

hm never seen that one before

[Farren]

because you're being pocketed. Get some better reads. Maybe reading glasses

Who's pocketing them, and why?

[Farren]

you mean the same game I literally coasted the entirety of day 2 without doing anything?

Stop fucking using meta. This is unbelievable. It's so bad.

Nothing wrong with using meta. It's a tool like any other.

Unless you're arguing that this is a *scummy* use of meta. I don't think you are - but are you?

[Farren]

This reaction reads to me as genuine?

It reads to me as somewhere between annoyed and angry. Being annoyed and/or angry that one is being scumread for what one thinks are bad reasons isn't alignment indicative. It's natural for Town, but "caught for the wrong reasons" is a thing for scum.

Do you see anything that can differentiate between the two?

[Farren]

and like I've said I think these posts have good depth of thought. I think one of the, more difficult reads to make as a wolf? is accusing townies of TMI--it's hard to see that when you do yourself

This I like.

[Esooa]

@Dann did you answer what your read on t3/red is? Also how seriously do you scum read nsg?

[Esooa]

you mean the same game I literally coasted the entirety of day 2 without doing anything?

Stop fucking using meta. This is unbelievable. It's so bad.

Nothing wrong with using meta. It's a tool like any other.

Unless you're arguing that this is a *scummy* use of meta. I don't think you are - but are you?

It's just really annoying when people try to meta me and 95% of the time it's wrong. I play differently a ton, some of it intentionally to make it harder to meta me, some of it because I'm multitabling pretty much always, etc.

[Dannflor]

@enchant, do you have any thoughts on the game not related to T3?

@esooa sorry I'll get to that when I get to a computer

[T3]

This reaction reads to me as genuine?

It reads to me as somewhere between annoyed and angry. Being annoyed and/or angry that one is being scumread for what one thinks are bad reasons isn't alignment indicative. It's natural for Town, but "caught for the wrong reasons" is a thing for scum.

Do you see anything that can differentiate between the two?

Hm yeah that makes sense. My reactiin to terrible pushes on my as either alignment is usually something of a blank stare.

[Ich Troje]

oh i typed soemthing up but i forgot but i was like "it can't be that easy that its just redtea cal04 t3"

[Ich Troje]

enchant*