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[MathBlade]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=87020

There’s the link of anyone cares.

The only reason I was able to stage a fake claim on D2 and run it through was because a majority of people had claimed/crumbed but my replace in.

I will reread your ISO but I don’t remember anything resolving a case.

[Dwlee99]

The case is that she is lurking and I don't think has interactions with DGB. Her EoD is saying she will be back to do stuff later and hasn't posted since then.

[Dwlee99]

I just said this

[MathBlade]

That’s not a case.

A case is something like

Max is scum because she in post 123455 and because of this it means Player here is town.

Repeat for all the scummy things she did.

I get you think she is scum but that little is not a case. It’s barely even a thought.

[Dwlee99]

How are you gatekeeping cases right now

[MathBlade]

You really are this close to a policy vote so I better step away and play some Pathfinder kingmaker.

I can’t tell if you’re dense and ridiculously annoying town or if you’re scum trying to sus out information and it’s pissing me off.

[Dwlee99]

How about this: max's day one ISO has content on a variety of slots, but almost all of it is extremely surface level except for her read on omo. 439 and 466 have depth, but posts like 457 are more like active lurking than really solving.

[oʍo]

max being scum is as easy of a read as "just read the damn iso" + looking at how passive they acted around wagons. I'm confident enough to say they scumclaimed with their first post but that's just me hey.

[oʍo]

lol jinx

[oʍo]

Also I'll do yall 1 better. Max's claim should be ignored

[marcistar]

1210 I think makes it clear I scumread max.

Marci may have just not read? Or missed it? That itself is probably NAI/slight lean scummy but her associatives with DGB are good so I think she is town.

i lowkey just have a really bad memory
but what i wanted was for opinions on more people, what ur saying is just opinions on 1 person

Their attitude doesn’t match. It’s more “malaise” like woe is me.

whats malaise mean..?

[MathBlade]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/malaise

A general unease feeling.

[MaxTheFox]

I stand by my meta-read on Dwlee (town, he was more talkative as scum IIRC) and my general SR on omo.

VOTE: omo

[MaxTheFox]

max being scum is as easy of a read as "just read the damn iso" + looking at how passive they acted around wagons. I'm confident enough to say they scumclaimed with their first post but that's just me hey.

You still didn't explain in what way I scumclaimed, and now you're actually serious about it. You're scum, omo.

How about this: max's day one ISO has content on a variety of slots, but almost all of it is extremely surface level except for her read on omo. 439 and 466 have depth, but posts like 457 are more like active lurking than really solving.

omo is just my main scumread and I'm focusing on them more.

[MaxTheFox]

Can max just claim next post btw

I'm a VT. If you kill me, get omo next.

[MaxTheFox]

Why claim lmfao
They need to explain their dayplay, I don't give a shit what they claim, it doens't clear their dayplay up. We already had a self clear role claim so there's 0 chance of that here.

Explain

your

dayplay first, as I and others asked you several times.

[MaxTheFox]

Dwlee is just wrong town I suppose. This is town Dwlee.

@Mod can we get a VC?

[Salsabil Faria]

I hammered dgb bc it flipped scum in another game and i had to force myself to do so here bc it felt the same here
(Just finished game)

But you townread that slot from the very 1st day here?? Even kept saying I know how to read people stuff???

[Salsabil Faria]

Roden asked me a question and I answered it. What's wrong with my response?

Wait, I misread the situation! For some reason I thought you voted

DGB

, then kept telling you're unsure

UNVOTE: Dwlee

VOTE: OMO

[Salsabil Faria]

Roden flipping town should clear me btw lol

[Salsabil Faria]

conftown

voters that were on the end of day DGB wagon and are not confirmed

confscum

Left myself yellow for everyone's convenience

Votecount 1:

DrippingGoofball

(3):

marcistar

,

ManateeDude

,

Titus

Titus

(2):

Roden

,

ssbm_Kyouko

omo

(2):

MathBlade

, MaxTheFox

ssbm_Kyouko

(1): Dwlee99
Salsabil Faria (1): geraintm
geraintm (1): Salsabil Faria
MaxTheFox (1):

omo

Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia

Votecount 2:

DrippingGoofball

(4):

marcistar

,

ManateeDude

,

Titus

,

ssbm_Kyouko

omo

(2): MaxTheFox, Salsabil Faria
MaxTheFox (2):

MathBlade

, Dwlee99

Titus

(1);

Roden

Salsabil Faria (1): geraintm
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia

marcistar

(1):

omo

Votecount 3:

omo

(4): MaxTheFox, Salsabil Faria,

DrippingGoofball

,

MathBlade

Roden

(4):

ssbm_Kyouko

,

omo

, Dwlee99,

ManateeDude

DrippingGoofball

(2):

marcistar

,

Titus

Salsabil Faria (1): geraintm
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia

ManateeDude

(1):

Roden

Votecount 4:

Dwlee99 (4): Salsabil Faria,

ssbm_Kyouko

,

Titus

,

ManateeDude

ManateeDude

(2):

omo

, Dwlee99

omo

(2): MaxTheFox,

DrippingGoofball

DrippingGoofball

(1):

marcistar

Salsabil Faria (1): geraintm
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia

marcistar

(1):

Roden

Votecount 5:

marcistar

(5):

Roden

,

ssbm_Kyouko

, Salsabil Faria,

omo

,

DrippingGoofball

omo

(3): MaxTheFox,

ManateeDude

,

MathBlade

ManateeDude

(1): Dwlee99
Dwlee99 (1):

Titus

DrippingGoofball

(1):

marcistar

Salsabil Faria (1): geraintm
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia

Votecount 6:

marcistar

(4):

Roden

,

ssbm_Kyouko

, Salsabil Faria,

omo

,

MathBlade

(MathBlade added to the Marci wagon in this VC quote because they voted Marci shortly afterward and were on the wagon at its height)

omo

(2): MaxTheFox,

MathBlade

ManateeDude

(1): Dwlee99
Dwlee99 (1):

Titus

DrippingGoofball

(1):

marcistar

Salsabil Faria (1): geraintm

Votecount 7:

DrippingGoofball

(4):

marcistar

,

ssbm_Kyouko

,

ManateeDude

,

Roden

Salsabil Faria (2): geraintm, Salsabil Fariua

marcistar

(1):

MathBlade

omo

(1): MaxTheFox

ManateeDude

(1): Dwlee99
Dwlee99 (1):

Titus

Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia

Roden

(1):

DrippingGoofball

Votecount 8:

DrippingGoofball

(7):

marcistar

,

ssbm_Kyouko

,

ManateeDude

,

Roden

,

Titus

,

MathBlade

,

omo

Roden

(2):

DrippingGoofball

, Dwlee99
Salsabil Faria (2): geraintm, Salsabil Faria

omo

(1): MaxTheFox
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia

Key notes I take from this are that Titus and Marci were on DGB slot early in the day and that when Marci was a wagon, Titus was not on board. I think if there was a bus on D1, it was in omo/MathBlade. Titus was also on the dwlee wagon, and although this is pre-flip, I do think this points further toward town!Titus. MathBlade's reason to vote DGB was "Ditto" that of Titus'. Titus states she TRs everyone on the wagon. This is in line with her play throughout the day. MathBlade, however, was on the Marcistar wagon so I'm going to look back at how he got off of that wagon, because he did pile on to the Marci wagon late and with little reasoning iirc.

I'm locking Marci and Titus for now. Killing Roden could be trying to frame dwlee. Max, geraintm, Salsabil, and Not_Mafia all have weak voting histories D1 and should be inspected toMorrow at the latest. And the points against omo/dwlee/DGB voting patterns still stand.

I've no problem, what do you want to know?
I was pissed of and wanted to replace out but also I didn’t want to take any decision out of rage, so to cool myself off, I took a break. And my self-vote meant f*** y'all.

Nothing in particular right now, but you, geraintm, and Not_Mafia were notably distanced from the DGB wagon by a lack of interaction, and either of your self-votes, or geraintm's vote against you for self-voting, could be construed as ways to keep yourselves off of the DGB wagon because you hoped it would disband like the other wagons of the day.

As scum, I usually look for towncred.
Do you really think me and the decorating guy are scums???

[Salsabil Faria]

Math buried DGB they were town anyways, math is anti d1 bussing iirc

What are you trying to say??

[Salsabil Faria]

Math buried DGB they were town anyways, math is anti d1 bussing iirc

Slight correction:
As scum (which I am not) don’t bus unless I get something out of it. Very rarely do you get something from bussing a buddy D1.

This makes me think possible Marci+DGB+early voter on DGB to save Marci possibly.

I asked for no fast night to try to make sense of the vote patterns and couldn’t which is indicative of a deep wolf.

But I think

Marci

is town, but I'm not sure about

Max

rn,

OMO

also vote her, which is also weird for scum!

OMO

ig.

UNVOTE: OMO

[Salsabil Faria]

I babysat ManateeDude last night. Got work. Will try to post tonight.

Ditto with work.

I have like 0.002% doubt of Titus’s claim and imho she should be treated as conf town even though she is not dead. I think she saw what I was trying to tell her and why Roden probably died. I am not sure how to explain it though without outing really nice snuggly PRs that you bring sugar and spice to.

I think Titus’s babysit was a really good move.

Btw I see what you’re getting at ssbm but as scum I 100% tunnel a certain player for cred here who is pretty much an open PR and force them to claim and then put Titus in a dilemma of if they protect the PR or not.

I had known that this other player was a PR for a while and had been trying not to talk about them.

I'm not sure I agree with Titus's babysit. Not that it's scummy to defend manatee but I would be afraid that i would get shot because a) I'm a claimed babysitter and b) the target I was looking at babysitting was essentially a claimed FN. I would expect scum to shoot me and i wouldn't want to let scum kill 2 PRs with 1 shot.

I guess the idea is if manatee was lying she's scum and if I get shot I take scum with me, but its risky when manatee can clear herself the next morning anyways. If anything, I would wait to babysit manatee until N2, if the person manatee claims to have FNed N1 died N1, or if they FNed a possible buddy like marcistar.

What is FN?

[Salsabil Faria]

manatee was in that game, but as scum. they got turbolimmed d1 and that was what gave me the confidence this game to continue that because I also had scumread them there and in our last normal together so I thought I was on a roll FWIW - I just didn't think I had the votes for it and then settled for DGB at the end.

I want to understand you properly, you scumread

Manatee

because of meta only?