Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

[Tanner]

I still think Ydrasse is town but now I think I might want Tanner flipped first.

what's changed your mind?

[clidd]

Ok, back to>

VOTE: Tanner

[Ydrasse]

and like, i still don't get the "scum's gonna scramble to derail tanner *even more*" part, both clidd and chara are voting me right now?

i don't think clidd is thinking much past "let's flip towny people" and chara i think is scum so... yes i think this is a bad idea now and i think tomorrow if i am flipped they're going to scramble to do what they can to discredit you because they can't afford a townflip nearly as much despite it being what flea needs

yeah, and you're saying that scum is trying to derail me today, but chara is obviously pushing me?

i have to go now but i finally get what you're getting at lol

i'll think about it and bbl i think (?)

[Chara]

:<

[Amy Dunne]

@Chara, let’s say you decide Flea is town, based on your Clidd solve, that can only leave Ydrasse who you claim to tr, so I’m confused.

if i became very sure of Flea being town, then yes, i would then think it's Ydrasse/clidd. but that's a big if. if Flea

is

town i'd like to be able to see it, if fae is scum i think that's still apparent after Flea is forced to change faer tune.

if i had to choose between them right now, i'd still say i feel much better about Ydrasse being town than the hypothetical where she isn't and Flea is. hopefully that makes sense.

Yes but I’m finding it hard to believe that Flea is playing the same game as the rest of us and not seeing Tanner’s very obviously town here. Fae has been egregiously misrepping his posts, so fae either has the worst reads or is scum I think.

[Tanner]

amy, wanna vote me for a second?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i can vote tanner here

whats the count?

[Tanner]

it's at y-2

i just wanna do the no hammer thing, not ready to end the day yet

[Amy Dunne]

I still think Ydrasse is town but now I think I might want Tanner flipped first.

what's changed your mind?

I think Flea is very likely scum and there’s pretty much an infinitesimal chance your faer buddy.

[Amy Dunne]

amy, wanna vote me for a second?

VOTE: Tanner

[Tanner]

yeet

[Amy Dunne]

amy, wanna vote me for a second?

VOTE: Tanner

E-1

[Tanner]

ok cool that was fun

uhhh now what

[Amy Dunne]

ok cool that was fun

uhhh now what

I should probably unvote unless we want to rush the day but I think I will stay on this vote.

[Tanner]

i'm assuming nobody will be scumclaiming by hammering that early >_>

[Amy Dunne]

i'm assuming nobody will be scumclaiming by hammering that early >_>

Well, 99.9999999% sure you’re town now and I still think we should never yeet Flea. Fae has some kind of gambit happening.

[Amy Dunne]

i'm assuming nobody will be scumclaiming by hammering that early >_>

Hmmm . . . maybe I shouldn’t unvote then? Maybe we catch scum with that?

[Tanner]

anyway i will probably be going to sleep sometime soon - and i want to reread the interactions with ydrasse and chara with a rested mind tomorrow. ydrasse pinged me wrong a lot of way tonight, and i really don't want my gutping to be right, so here's hoping i'm seeing things that aren't there.

flea definitely has *some* sorta gambit going on, but... i dunno. like at what point does scum keep doing this. like how far would scum!flea go in hopes that someone thinks "no was scum!flea does that"? genuine question, i've no experience.

pedit: that was a semi-joke considering that if someone scumclaims with a hammer, they're literally throwing the game. you're free to leave it up though, if scum wants to throw *now*, that's fine by me.

[clidd]

Ok, take your time.

[Amy Dunne]

I still think Yydra’s probably town but you’re less likely to be faer buddy than her or anyone left unconfirmed in the playerlist.

So, I’m basing off everything on who’s the most and least likely to be paired with Flea. I also think you’re super obviously town now and Flea is clearly misrepping your posting.

[Tanner]

i'm usually against preflip solving like that, but it lead you to the right conclusion this time so i won't complain.

and yeah, i am kind of interested in seeing what flea does now. i'm obviously really not a fan of the way fae's been trying to paint me scum any way possible. but i've seen worse confbias in townies.

[Flea The Magician]

Which is why I want Ydra first, then Tanner because I think scum is planning to take full advantage of the Tanner flip, so making them wait another day to keep the game stable is I think in our best interests.

You have literally gone in circles just to give me roughly what I want and it's funny af.
Even the reasoning is roughly there. Ydrasse going will flip green and kee us "stable".

[Flea The Magician]

i want Tanner first because it's the only way Flea does anything different.

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Flea The Magician]

i want Tanner first because it's the only way Flea does anything different.

And that’s the reason I prefer Ydra first because it keeps the game stable and extra day but I’m hellbent on having both of them flip back to back because I want us in the strongest position possible.

i don't know what you mean by "keeps the game stable". i'm not trying to keep the game stable, i'm trying to figure out if Flea is for sure scum or not, and it's proved to be impossible as long as Tanner isn't flipped. if fae is scum i don't think that becomes harder to see because Tanner is now flipped. but i do think if fae is town it's more useful.

@Tanner that answers your question too i think.

pedit: i think it's Flea/clidd. you can say it's obviously not Ydrasse so maybe it doesn't matter and you're right, but i don't see the problem with Tanner going first to see what Flea does with that.

I mean, the impossible situation of you flipped green also shuts me up.

But you won't, you'll flip red.

[Amy Dunne]

i'm usually against preflip solving like that, but it lead you to the right conclusion this time so i won't complain.

and yeah, i am kind of interested in seeing what flea does now. i'm obviously really not a fan of the way fae's been trying to paint me scum any way possible. but i've seen worse confbias in townies.

It really doesn’t read like confibias to me but a blatantly obvious misrep. Fae hasn’t even pretending to waffle on you in the slightest. I just think faer read on you is fake.