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[Titus]

The fact we still don’t have a cohesive town block despite getting scum d1 is troubling.

We do. Just some people are objecting to it.

[Titus]

I'd put Max in the townblock based on the composition of the wagon on him.

[Dwlee99]

Titus do you actually believe pre-flip VCA works?

[geraintm]

Roles which are explicitly Normal for any alignment include:
Alien, Babysitter, Bodyguard, Checker, Commuter, Sane Cop, Detective, Doctor, Encryptor, Finder, Follower, Fruit Vendor, Gunsmith, Hider, Jack-of-all-trades, Jailkeeper, Motion Detector, Mailman, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Psychologist, PT Cop, Roleblocker, Role Cop, Rolestopper, Role Watcher, Tracker, Traffic Analyst, Universal Backup, Vanilla Cop, Visitor, Voyeur, Watcher

Yeah I double checked scum babysitter is possible. So why do you exclude Titus scum babysitter Owo?

i read this list and got really confused until i reread it and saw it was for any alignment.

So, known claims are

Titus - babysitter
Manatee - friendly neighbour
ssbm_Kyouko- received visit from manatee

are there any others?

I think Titus, Marci, Manatee, Me is the block, and omo/mathblade are like auxiliary to the block.

Does anyone in the block listed (not the auxiliary) disagree with the block?

i strongly disagree that i am not in the town block.

looking at
ssbm_Kyouko's long post 1111

I would normally look at the last couple of votes onto a wagon and look at them more

the lasst three were Titus, MathBlade, omo

VOTE: DGB

TRing everyone on this wagon.

that was the Titus vote.
Going to be honest, i am giving Titus a pass for now, if they are scum then their claim won't hold up long term.
It wasn't a great looking vote though

Mathblade's vote

VOTE: DGB

TRing everyone on this wagon.

VOTE: DGB

Ditto.

Oh and not sure if anyone saw a recent WWF ad? It’s so cute I just have to share it.



Show love to people <3

owo's vote

VOTE: DGB

whatever

there's absolutely no agreement here and I don't think DGB is that valuable to the gamestate anyways so yeah

I'm hammering this so no shit counterwagon happens because no one wants to go for any of my scumreads and this is at least low in my reads

this has the feel of disgruntled end of day townie to me.

Just have the feeling that owo and mathblade are different alignment's (i don't think the last two votes on a wagon would both be scum, that just feels off to me. scum would have let it stall more)

reading the two different sets of posts, i just have mathblade as the one who feels more likely to be scum.

[geraintm]

i am also 90% confident that not-mafia has me worked out

[Titus]

Titus do you actually believe pre-flip VCA works?

It's not as confident as VCA day 3 with a scumflip but I do believe we get somewhere with a scumflip. We get theories to test and premises to work on beyond town fucked up.

Why do you think the DGB wagon went through?

[Titus]

this has the feel of disgruntled end of day townie to me.

Just have the feeling that owo and mathblade are different alignment's (i don't think the last two votes on a wagon would both be scum, that just feels off to me. scum would have let it stall more)

reading the two different sets of posts, i just have mathblade as the one who feels more likely to be scum.

I agree with the sentiments in this post but not the conclusion.

I feel owo was disgruntled at having to hammer a partner. The tone is right but the reason is wrong.

Mathblade's vote was suggesting that I protect someone (that's why the WWF ad). The fact that scum didn't shoot me gives Math townpoints for speaking in a semi-unique manner. It's not strong bc wifom.

Based on the VCs and my reading of Math as town and owo's tone, I feel owo is the scum desperate to having a scum on the wagon.

[Titus]

In fact,

VOTE: owo

Feel more confident here than Dwlee atm.

[Dwlee99]

Why do you think the DGB wagon went through?

You're just asking me to be snarky

[Titus]

Why do you think the DGB wagon went through?

You're just asking me to be snarky

Go ahead. I dgaf.

[geraintm]

this has the feel of disgruntled end of day townie to me.

Just have the feeling that owo and mathblade are different alignment's (i don't think the last two votes on a wagon would both be scum, that just feels off to me. scum would have let it stall more)

reading the two different sets of posts, i just have mathblade as the one who feels more likely to be scum.

I agree with the sentiments in this post but not the conclusion.

I feel owo was disgruntled at having to hammer a partner. The tone is right but the reason is wrong.

Mathblade's vote was suggesting that I protect someone (that's why the WWF ad). The fact that scum didn't shoot me gives Math townpoints for speaking in a semi-unique manner. It's not strong bc wifom.

Based on the VCs and my reading of Math as town and owo's tone, I feel owo is the scum desperate to having a scum on the wagon.

you could well be right, ive had an interupted day and my post took about 3 attempts to finish off so i may well have read the two of them wrong (and my history isn't on my side). i think if we eliminate between the pair of them, then by tomorrow there will be a pool of people who are going to be on the "not to be eliminated" list and scum are going to get trapped into a very small group

[Titus]

Then join me on owo please.

[Dwlee99]

DGB wagon went through because 7 people voted it.

[Titus]

DGB wagon went through because 7 people voted it.

Why did the DGB wagon get 7 votes?

[Dwlee99]

DGB wagon went through because 7 people voted it.

Why did the DGB wagon get 7 votes?

I don't think we have enough info right now to figure out who bussed who didn't etc. and I think any attempt to "find scum on the wagon" or anything else is making a flawed assumption that there has to be scum on it. Inversely, finding scum off the wagon assumes there are any, I don't think this is necessarily true. Play will be a much better indicator than day 2 VCA.

[Titus]

DGB wagon went through because 7 people voted it.

Why did the DGB wagon get 7 votes?

I don't think we have enough info right now to figure out who bussed who didn't etc. and I think any attempt to "find scum on the wagon" or anything else is making a flawed assumption that there has to be scum on it. Inversely, finding scum off the wagon assumes there are any, I don't think this is necessarily true. Play will be a much better indicator than day 2 VCA.

Based on DGB's play, do you think any votes were busses?

[Dwlee99]

Not particularly. DGB's interactions with people are very standard.

[Titus]

Not particularly. DGB's interactions with people are very standard.

What do you mean by fairly standard?

[Dwlee99]

Nothing seems alignment indicative for the people it is responding to. It's just one liners to people in reaction to their posts.

[Dwlee99]

I think one of the most notable things in its ISO is its please for Titus to understand how real life gets in the way, but if it is a bus I'm sure it's fakeable.

[Dwlee99]

Its pleas* autocorrect

[Titus]

Nothing seems alignment indicative for the people it is responding to. It's just one liners to people in reaction to their posts.

You really get nothing about the agenda it attempts to pursue by ISOing them?

What about ISOing them with the mod?

[Titus]

What about Looker?

[Dwlee99]

Not really. DGB/Looker don't look to be pushing an agenda. They're kinda just doing random things

[MathBlade]

I said im lurking. salsa what r ur thoughts on max rn? you lay down a vote but im curious how serious it was

Said already, I think her lurking in this game is scum indicative, the vote on her is moderately serious. Like

Math

, I also think now we have at least one deepwolf (considering both

Dwlee

and

OMO

are town).

u said u think im town, so who does that leave as the deepwolf?
"considering both dwlee and omo are town" how do you know that..?

What if it’s

Max

and

geraintm

? 2 lurkers

i do think geraintm has a decent chance of being scum here, but max im kinda unsure on.

pedit: these wagons are giving me the spooks. omo and dwlee voting together, and Max and Salsa voting together, cross-voting
TvS wagons I think.

i dont think scum would wanna wagon together so openly. do you think they would?

1-5 Maricstar omo dynamic is interesting. Marci might be a wagon to save owo.

didn't think of this originally.

Looking at this VC here, assuming Titus town, I know I am town, then if there is scum in the wagon it is in Marci/Kyo/owo if the wagons are TvT as I suspect then a Marci Kyo wagon pops up again. I coulda sworn Kyo was the first voter on DGB though I am going to have to reread that.

i voted drippinggoofballs slot early on (i think in the first few pages..? not sure exactly) and just never moved off.


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out of 1333s vc,
i dont think owo would be a good move, they've felt generally towny to me this game.

max is a good vote, im not sure if i exactly trust theyre vt rn.
so is dwlee, they could be doing a lot more but they aren't doing much.

i really really really want geraintm today to give us stuff, they better not slide by like a slipperly snake

VOTE: Salsabil Faria

Hey Titus, how do you feel about flash wagon part two?

Marci brings up a good point and if y’all are all town and I am just paranoid then Faria is just buddying the shit out of me and I am wrong.