Newbie 2074 | Game Over

[Ythan]

VOTE: Salsabil Faria

[Salsabil Faria]

Last night (while being in bed), I realized,

Ythan

has only done theory stuff so far. Yes, they are a SE but also a player but instead of playing they're actually teaching everyone so far. If they really take the SE stuff seriously, they should concentrate more about practical stuff (meaning play the game by implementing the theory they have been teaching about), not only focus on correcting the theory talk of others.
That's been said, I think they are scum who are using their SE position as a shield.

UNVOTE: Leaven

VOTE: Ythan

I had a conversation with literally you literally yesterday about not theory.

snip

Do you want me to grab more or do you want to explain that vote again.

And from that conversation I gain nothing. You took all the info from me and then shut your mouth and most of the time in the game you theory-talked.

[Ythan]

Last night (while being in bed), I realized,

Ythan

has only done theory stuff so far. Yes, they are a SE but also a player but instead of playing they're actually teaching everyone so far. If they really take the SE stuff seriously, they should concentrate more about practical stuff (meaning play the game by implementing the theory they have been teaching about), not only focus on correcting the theory talk of others.
That's been said, I think they are scum who are using their SE position as a shield.

UNVOTE: Leaven

VOTE: Ythan

I had a conversation with literally you literally yesterday about not theory.

snip

Do you want me to grab more or do you want to explain that vote again.

And from that conversation I gain nothing. You took all the info from me and then shut your mouth and most of the time in the game you theory-talked.

That is very different from what you said in the thread of yours that I quoted isn't it.

[Salsabil Faria]

Last night (while being in bed), I realized,

Ythan

has only done theory stuff so far. Yes, they are a SE but also a player but instead of playing they're actually teaching everyone so far. If they really take the SE stuff seriously, they should concentrate more about practical stuff (meaning play the game by implementing the theory they have been teaching about), not only focus on correcting the theory talk of others.
That's been said, I think they are scum who are using their SE position as a shield.

UNVOTE: Leaven

VOTE: Ythan

imagine the slightest pressure from a replacement and someone completely folds.

Don't understand what you're trying to say here... elaborate please.

[JamesTheNames]

So if Salsa, Leaven, and James all flip town this game. What are the takeaways.

- With Salsa, scum can freely do anti-town things and even be town-bucketed for it. Furthermore, if people vote that scummy behavior, they will actually be scum-bucketed for it.
- With myself, scum will know they can't easily get away with anti-town things.

What advantage does town get (now or in the future) from laying a red carpet down for scum to freely behave against the interest of town? I'm happy to create an environment that discourages anti-town behavior.

If James was randomly 25% Scum, 25% PR, 50% VT, now I have him at 30% Scum, 5% PR, 65% VT. Still overwhelmingly likely to be VT, but as I've said previously, outside of a better option (which we likely will have in 5 days), my vote lands there.

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnngggggggg

If you have time, check my meta, will see how townie I am all the time

This is scummy.

i assumed that salsa was joking because of the laughing emote and constant talking about how anti-town actions do not equal pro-scum, which stems from personal experience more than anything (?)

Re-read my all the posts, you'll understand.

How about you do something proactive? What posts have you made in your eyes which would help us understand?

[Ythan]

Psst he's talking about you @503

[Salsabil Faria]

I will not be retracting my claim, nor claiming a PR further down the game.

It sounds like you fail to understand that if you are town this narrows down scum's search for potential power roles.

You need to understand that this is wrong before you play real games, for real.

If House were in this game I'd expect him to call this out as proper play scolding, but as he isn't I'll do it instead
this feels like Ythan is more interested in lecturing people than actually sorting them

James is doing a bunch of dumb shit in a newbie game I'm an se in so yeah there's a bit of that. Is it all I'm posting? No it isn't.

actually yes

I may not have 400+ d1 of this game like certain players but nah ur full of shit sorry.

Ha ha ha.... Sure!

[Ythan]

Is there a nice way to describe a post like that.

[Salsabil Faria]

I haven’t said that, you're misinterpreting my thoughts completely.

Do me a favour and read your own 306.

You RE-READ my posts first.

[Ythan]

You have 97 posts clown.

[Salsabil Faria]

Maybe you should just tell them what you did mean.

I did! And you were there in that conversation

[Ythan]

Maybe you should just tell them what you did mean.

I did! And you were there in that conversation

Show me.

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: Salsabil Faria

You think miseliminate me will help you on D2??

[Ythan]

VOTE: Salsabil Faria

You think miseliminate me will help you on D2??

Post something other than clown bullshit please thank you.

[Salsabil Faria]

You have 97 posts clown.

Hello SE, isn’t there is a rule

not to attack the player but attack their paly style

??

[Ythan]

You have 97 posts clown.

Hello SE, isn’t there is a rule

not to attack the player but attack their paly style

??

Who doesn't like clowns.

[Salsabil Faria]

Ok I give up! I was trying my best though
I'm a mafia goon
Nice to play with all of you

VOTE: Salsabil Faria

[Ythan]

Obviously don't do that regardless but it's not like we haven't been over this.

[Ythan]

You hammered yourself. So yeah you are a clown awesome.

[Ythan]

There are corner cases where it's okay to self hammer as scum maybe especially the goon but if you're looking for advice in a newbie game I'd say just don't.

[JamesTheNames]

I haven’t said that, you're misinterpreting my thoughts completely.

Do me a favour and read your own 306.

You RE-READ my posts first.

I have. Twice.

[Ythan]

Hi James thoughts?

[JamesTheNames]

Hi. I don't like this self vote. All it makes me certain of is that we have not hit a PR. Self-hammering only benefits scum, it makes it harder to detect bussing or not-bussing, it gives your partner less room to mess up, also depending on the roles, can have varying success. If I had to guess right now, I think we've hit a Mafia Goon, and that we're in Column C. Assuming they don't know who any PRs are, it would be wiser to give the PR less time to work out scum. (especially in Column C where there's either 1 or 0 night actions).

[Salsabil Faria]

The thread is still unlocked, good..
Despite being a

SE

,

Ythan

still put me at E-1 unannounced = scum-claim.
Partner can be in {

SM

,

Gamma

,

Leaven

}.

[Salsabil Faria]

Last but not the least,

Re-read

my post with an

open mind

, thank you

@Ythan

, why don't you find some to time to smell your a** and get high on that