[MT2225] Chrono Trigger Chronicles - The Rise/Fall of Yakra

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd like some engagement on why AW is town considering I have an unpopular view.

I’m actually warming to AW!scum

[House]

I'd like some engagement on why AW is town considering I have an unpopular view.

I’m actually warming to AW!scum

Interesting.

[Gamma Emerald]

House just doesn't know I'm the third mason cause I haven't posted in the PT yet

I'm sorry you repped into a scum slot

That's a spicy take and I like it.

I was thinking the same during my catch-up.

I could see this.

[Lukewarm]

VERY IMPORTANT NOTICE. Lukewarm might be scum. Im back to that read. I understand that mom doesnt agree with me but his progression on me I dont like. A little bit of meta that is not that reliable but my main reason im second guessing mom right now is that Lukewarm's reads in games are typically pretty good. From my past games with him, I believe his reads are normally almost completely accurate with his only mistakes being due to personal bias. his mistakes in reads are almost always because the person is scum reading him. But we have not SRed him in a while here so I dont see a valid reason for him to SR me here especially after just getting out of a game with a three headed hydra of me, mom and flea. We got our asses tunneled to hell and back day one as town two shot mason vig. I dont see why he would be so eager to jump on us even if only off of that.

This whole collection of thoughts is

wild

Does she really think that I have a 100% accuracy of reading people who town read me?

But then also thinks that I automatically scum read people who scum read me?

Does she think that for some reason, her being a strong PR in our last game should make me less likely to scum read her this game?

And then, does she really believe that Scum!Luke is more likely then Town!Luke to scum read a player that is town reading them? -- And not just town reading, 100% certainty, locktown reading me?

Spoiler:

Guillo is LOCKTOWN. like 100% certainty.

Lukewarm is also town here, on the same level as guillo.

[Lukewarm]

I think it's hilarious that Angel is speculated to be my partner, then all of a sudden there's this push to eliminate them.

If I was a more savvy person, I'd probably consider the person that started that push as scum for trying to eliminate a suspected Mason in order to fish out a claim.

But I'm not that nuanced.

I did not really think that they were your mason partner before, and mainly just thought that idea was just coming from T3.

But now seeing this post coming from you tho..

UNVOTE:

[Lukewarm]

I am finding it hard to believe that this is town Noraa...

But maybe, house can buy them a day

[House]

I think it's hilarious that Angel is speculated to be my partner, then all of a sudden there's this push to eliminate them.

If I was a more savvy person, I'd probably consider the person that started that push as scum for trying to eliminate a suspected Mason in order to fish out a claim.

But I'm not that nuanced.

I did not really think that they were your mason partner before, and mainly just thought that idea was just coming from T3.

But now seeing this post coming from you tho..

UNVOTE:

T3 does seem to be really tuned into my interactions, doesn't he?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Titus
I don't like some of her early posts

So does that mean you’ve actually been catching up?

[Gamma Emerald]

Damn…I keep getting these kind of townreads here. First i got townread for being cocky and now this.

I also felt like you were town for similar reasons
In fact I feel better about those town vibes now that I know I’m not the only one that got them

[Gamma Emerald]

I think it's hilarious that Angel is speculated to be my partner, then all of a sudden there's this push to eliminate them.

If I was a more savvy person, I'd probably consider the person that started that push as scum for trying to eliminate a suspected Mason in order to fish out a claim.

But I'm not that nuanced.

It also happened after RMH hit E-1, which is probably the biggest reason why I haven’t done much with my AW suspicions

[House]

I think it's hilarious that Angel is speculated to be my partner, then all of a sudden there's this push to eliminate them.

If I was a more savvy person, I'd probably consider the person that started that push as scum for trying to eliminate a suspected Mason in order to fish out a claim.

But I'm not that nuanced.

It also happened after RMH hit E-1, which is probably the biggest reason why I haven’t done much with my AW suspicions

Umm.

It actually happened after RMH *lost* E-1 status & SSBM started picking up steam.

Spoiler:

Vote Count 1.10

Robert M Hunter

(4)

:

Angel Warriors - Gamma Emerald - T3 - ssbm_Kyouko

mastina

(1)

:

Guillotina

Dwlee99

(1)

:

House

T3

(1)

:

Lukewarm

ssbm_Kyouko

(2)

:

Robert M Hunter - mastina

Guillotina

(1)

:

Roden

Not Voting

(3)

:

Dwlee99 - Marashu - Titus

With 13 players in the game, 7 are required to Yeet unto the Eternal Void .

Deadline for voiding is in (expired on 2021-08-09 08:31:06)

Mod Notes

Marashu is V/LA.
Lukewarm is V/LA

Pronouns

T3- He/Him
Angel Warriors - They/Them
Roden - He/Him
ssbm_Kyouko - She/Her
Marashu - He/Him
Guillotina - He/Him
Lukewarm - He/Him
Robert M Hunter - He/Him
House - He/Him
mastina - She/Her
Titus - She/Her
Gamma Emerald - He/Him
Dwlee99 - They/Them

VOTE: Kyouko

My super-accurate day 1 solve is currently {Kyouko, Lukewarm, Angel}. Prove me wrong.

[House]

VOTE: ssbm

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: kyouko
I can back this given I think guillo vs. kyouko is TvS (could be TvT being feels unlikely) and I’m feeling confident about guillo being town, so the scales tip out of Kyouko’s favor

[House]

I believe third party is a possibility.

How come? I didn't see anything in the OP that hinted 3P.

I believe third party is a possibility.

how so?

Because this isn't a Normal game and I can't assume we don't have 3P. It's unlikely since I can't imagine what flavor would be used as a reason to include it, but it's not impossible AFAIK.

Why bring it up then?

Just stating my thought process at the time. Not sure why that's being questioned since it does literally zero to aid me if I'm scum.

"Muddying the waters" isn't something I'd refer to as 'zero'.

I guess, but that's kind of a vague thing to say tbh. Saying 3P is possible shouldn't muddy the waters for anyone. If I'm 3P and people don't expect it then I just don't say it, and if I'm scum all it does is draw attention to me. Do you think it's scummy for me to say that?

Actually, opening the door and stepping back for others to fill the void with speculation is a very sus strategy.

That's no town motivation in even bringing up 3P unless there's actual recurrence of 3P.

[House]

I believe third party is a possibility.

How come? I didn't see anything in the OP that hinted 3P.

I believe third party is a possibility.

how so?

Because this isn't a Normal game and I can't assume we don't have 3P. It's unlikely since I can't imagine what flavor would be used as a reason to include it, but it's not impossible AFAIK.

Why bring it up then?

Just stating my thought process at the time. Not sure why that's being questioned since it does literally zero to aid me if I'm scum.

"Muddying the waters" isn't something I'd refer to as 'zero'.

I guess, but that's kind of a vague thing to say tbh. Saying 3P is possible shouldn't muddy the waters for anyone. If I'm 3P and people don't expect it then I just don't say it, and if I'm scum all it does is draw attention to me. Do you think it's scummy for me to say that?

Actually, opening the door and stepping back for others to fill the void with speculation is a very sus strategy.

That's no town motivation in even bringing up 3P unless there's actual evidence of 3P.

EBWOP

[Gamma Emerald]

Did that actually happen though? I don’t think anyone saw that and was like “there might actually be a 3P”

[House]

Kinda leaning towards {ssbm, Roden, dwlee}, ATM.

[House]

Did that actually happen though? I don’t think anyone saw that and was like “there might actually be a 3P”

I don't care what happened or didn't happen after.

I care about the purpose behind introducing the idea in the first place.

[House]

You can walk in to a bank waving a gun around and leave without robbing it, but you're still going to jail even if you didn't take a cent or shoot anyone.

[Roden]

I don't think I hurt or threatened anyone by saying a 3P can exist besides potential 3P itself and we both know that. We also both know scum would've ignored you here entirely here and that I just want to be right.

Kinda leaning towards {ssbm, Roden, dwlee}, ATM.

???

I can take or leave Dwlee, and Kyouko and I are clearly apprehensive of each other. It should be one or the other but not both of us in a hero solve.

[House]

I can take or leave Dwlee, and Kyouko and I are clearly apprehensive of each other. It should be one or the other but not both of us in a hero solve.

You'd think so, wouldn't you?

However, the way you picked up the torch and started pushing AW that Guillo opened the door to when ssbm became a competing wagon with Robert is more sus than the original push by Guillo.

[House]

I can take or leave Dwlee, and Kyouko and I are clearly apprehensive of each other. It should be one or the other but not both of us in a hero solve.

You'd think so, wouldn't you?

However, the way you picked up the torch and started pushing AW that Lukewarm opened the door to when ssbm became a competing wagon with Robert is more sus than the original push by Lukewarm.

EBWOP. It's late.

[Roden]

Kyouko, no matter your alignment here, I need you to know you're setting yourself up to be voted out next if you do manage to mis-elim me. Because this isn't simply you being "wrong", you've flat out created a narrative here using your own assumptions to make previous assumptions seem true. This isn't a scum case. This is a narrative and it is 100% going to backfire on you because it isn't even a good one. If you're town you absolutely need to back up and reassess what you're doing before you start throwing.

um ok roden is confirmed scum here. I'll be casing this tomorrow.

summary of the case : newbies dont put on this much nuance in this short an amount of time. quoting my favorite imperium, "it's not possible"

-noraaaaaaaaaaaa

Just wanna say that if you're scum, no hard feelings here because I know you're just playing the game. But if you're town this is such an unnecessarily insulting thing to say, and I don't think you're mean. I don't care if someone wants to accuse AtE here, I just genuinely mean that.

[Roden]

I can take or leave Dwlee, and Kyouko and I are clearly apprehensive of each other. It should be one or the other but not both of us in a hero solve.

You'd think so, wouldn't you?

However, the way you picked up the torch and started pushing AW that Lukewarm opened the door to when ssbm became a competing wagon with Robert is more sus than the original push by Lukewarm.

EBWOP. It's late.

Can you please read what actually happened. Titus was the one who specifically asked me to meta AW, it had nothing to do with the other wagons. I was town reading her before that. And I'd already questioned Kyouko before that as well so you can clearly see I already didn't trust her.

[House]

I can take or leave Dwlee, and Kyouko and I are clearly apprehensive of each other. It should be one or the other but not both of us in a hero solve.

You'd think so, wouldn't you?

However, the way you picked up the torch and started pushing AW that Lukewarm opened the door to when ssbm became a competing wagon with Robert is more sus than the original push by Lukewarm.

EBWOP. It's late.

Can you please read what actually happened. Titus was the one who specifically asked me to meta AW, it had nothing to do with the other wagons. I was town reading her before that. And I'd already questioned Kyouko before that as well so you can clearly see I already didn't trust her.

Yeah. That's something she and I disagree on. I was sitting back to see where that goes, but I missed the post you're referring to.